Outwitted - Mini 1254 (Game Over)

[Llamarble]

Oh YEPYEPYEP I'm JUST SCREWIN' AROUND EVEN WHEN IT'S SERIOUSLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO WIN CONDITION.

[GreyICE]

Grey all you have it AtE.

I have facts.

Like I expected you said "LOL WIFOM" when I asked why in the fuck was LLD roleblocked when both the people she wanted dead were town?

That wou;ld've been a FREEKILL for my scumteam.

For your scumteam? You risked Marble dying.

Occam's razor.

Your astronomical AtE will not work here.

Oh come on, free kill for your scumteam? No it's not.

All that would happen is we'd be in 7 man LyLo rather than 8 man MyLo today.

THAT'S ALL THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

That is, by the way, exactly what would happen if we voted No Lynch.

You know, you'd actually have a point if the kill would have cost the town a lynch. But it wouldn't have. It wouldn't have cost the town anything at all.

And now you get to sit here and spout out garbage about 'well why would the scum block the kill on Lurconis unless Llamarble was scum? Huh? Huh?'

I date LLD for fucks sake. If she says she's killing Lurconis, she's killing Lurconis, no ifs, ands, or buts. And you know what? I'd probably have fucking blocked her as scum because Lurconis was scummy as SHIT, and would probably be lynched if he wasn't vigged, leaving the town in 5:3 MyLo. I notice yesterday that Lurconis was such a fucking scumbag that you had to vote for him, but today it's totally plausible that the town wouldn't have lynched him and that therefore the scumteam wouldn't have blocked LLD unless they thought she'd kill Llamarble instead of Lurconis.

Gimme a break, Fate. Of course you block the vig and cost the town a lynch. Plus you get to rail about how scummy she is and how she didn't shoot N2, and how she's obviously scum, and see if any townies buy an LLD lynch (what's she going to do, shoot N3?)

[Llamarble]

KNOW WHAT WE DIDN'T GET?
ROLE PMS OF DEAD PEOPLE.
HOW IN THE FUCK IS SERA SUPPOSED TO USE A POWER HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

[Fate]

Again, more of ME trying to get scum lynched WITHOUT claiming BP and outing my role.

No matter how much you repeat it, it actually only STRENGTHENS my case for being town.

If I were scum, I'd have CC"d immediately and breadcrumbed and this all would've ben PLANNED.

Instead if was town chaos.

You lose marble scum.

[Llamarble]

BS.
SERASCUM DIDN'T :EXPECT: TO RUN UP A BP.
HE THOUGHT OF HAVING A BUDDY CC WHEN HE MENTIONED IT WAY AFTER THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN A BUDDY :DID: CC BECAUSE IT WAS NECESSARY TO FORCE IT THROUGH.

[Llamarble]

AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN VOTE GREY, YOU VOTED NO LYNCH.
HOW IN THE JEEEBUS AM I SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE YOU DID THAT INSTEAD OF CC GREYICE PURELY TO HIDE A BULLETPROOFNESS THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EVEN REALLY GAIN A LOT OF VALUE FROM BEING HIDDEN??

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

If you had counterclaimed immediately, people'd just assume you're lying, Fate.

[GreyICE]

Oh yeah right, Fate.

That's the same shit you pulled in Advance Wars. "Oh, I'd never claim the guilty this fucking poorly were I scum," etc. etc.

The plan was for someone other than me to be bulletproof. Heh, prolly Darox, you were like 'oh herp right of COURSE you couldn't be BP...' (shit I thought he'd only be playing this badly if he was confirmed town). You're not even reading the fucking thread, Fate.

[Llamarble]

KNOW WHAT WE DIDN'T GET?
ROLE PMS OF DEAD PEOPLE.
HOW IN THE FUCK IS SERA SUPPOSED TO USE A POWER HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

[GreyICE]

LOOK AT ME FATE.

Answer me these questions.

1) My comment about his role being overpowered was made PRIOR to his modification. Yes or no, Fate?

2) He modified his claim AFTER my comment. Yes or no, Fate?

3) You tried to say I was scummy because a comment I made about the

modified

claim did not match a comment I made about the

unmodified claim.

Yes or no, Fate?

Answer these questions now, Fate.

[Seraphim]

Llamarble is tomorrow's lynch, always good to have that nice and laid out.

[Llamarble]

ALSO BIGGEST REASON OF ALL:
Cop
Doctor
Tracker
Tracker
Innocent Child Who Is Bulletproof TROLOLOL
Even Vig
Backup
Would be an absolutely mind_blowing array of town power.

Used on a 1, a cop gets an accurate result probably 80% of the time. It can power up when needed.
Used on a 1, a vig gets a kill probably 80% of the time. It can power up when needed.
Used only as an innocent, bp inno is extremely powerful. But it can avoid death too.
Lurctracker: pretty much strictly better than a 1 shot tracker in a game where trackers have a lot to do.
Yostracker: fully normal tracker power except on the nk, which it is better than a 1shot tracker against.
Doctor: Pretty much strictly superior to 1 shot doctor.
Backup: can use the cop or vig or yostracker powers near full effect, but is weirdly semifunctional with bp, doc, lurctracker.
That is also 7 named roles.

Zor would not make this game.

[Fate]

Ok Grey I retract that point, you're probably right that you faked saying OMG OP to LOL BULLSHIT CLAIM when he clarified his role.

So what?

You still have NOTHING on why LLD was roleblocked other than "Lol WIFOM" which is complete horseshit newb level explanations

[Fate]

Ok Grey I retract that point, you're probably right that you faked saying OMG OP to LOL BULLSHIT CLAIM when he clarified his role.

So what?

You still have NOTHING on why LLD was roleblocked other than "Lol WIFOM" which is complete horseshit newb level explanations

[Fate]

ALSO BIGGEST REASON OF ALL:
Cop
Doctor
Tracker
Tracker
Innocent Child Who Is Bulletproof TROLOLOL
Even Vig
Backup
Would be an absolutely mind_blowing array of town power.

Used on a 1, a cop gets an accurate result probably 80% of the time. It can power up when needed.
Used on a 1, a vig gets a kill probably 80% of the time. It can power up when needed.
Used only as an innocent, bp inno is extremely powerful. But it can avoid death too.
Lurctracker: pretty much strictly better than a 1 shot tracker in a game where trackers have a lot to do.
Yostracker: fully normal tracker power except on the nk, which it is better than a 1shot tracker against.
Doctor: Pretty much strictly superior to 1 shot doctor.
Backup: can use the cop or vig or yostracker powers near full effect, but is weirdly semifunctional with bp, doc, lurctracker.
That is also 7 named roles.

Zor would not make this game.

AND THE BIGGEST REASON OF ALL:

SETUP

SPECULATION

HURTP

DERPAH.

Yeah that's all you've had for the past two fucking days Marble scum.
Gg

[Llamarble]

Huh?
LLD explicitly said she was going to kill Lurc.
Scum obviously blocked her so Lurc would be autolynched and she wouldn't be conftown.
And then he was.

[Llamarble]

OH SHUT UP.
YOU KNOW I USE SETUP SPECULATION HEAVILY IN ALL GAMES.
AND I NEVER :ONLY: USE SETUP SPEC, I CHECK IT OUT WITH WHAT MAKES SENSE DAYPLAYWISE.

[GreyICE]

Soooo, you don't see any scum advantage to having Lurconis alive to be mislynched yesterday?

Or any advantage to not having LLD as confirmed vig (and thus confirmed town since there's confirmed no third parties)?

Yeah, I dunno. Maybe there's no way scum could spend the entire day 2 pushing LLD to see if the town was receptive, and then vote for Lurconis after he herps it up enough that no one on this planet thinks he's town anymore.

You got me Fate, no scum player could possibly do that.

[Llamarble]

OTHERWISE I'D HAVE VOTED SERA IMMEDIATELY.
ALSO SERA EVEN IF YOUR TOWN YOU'RE GAMBITING.
HOW DOES NOT BELIEVING YOU SUDDENLY MAKE ME SCUM??

[Fate]

You're right I RB'd so she couldn't be confiremd then killed her the next night TROLOLOL SURE

No way she was RB'd to stop her from killing MARBLE scum and then killed because of her MARBLE scum read the next night.

Oh no never.

[Fate]

OTHERWISE I'D HAVE VOTED SERA IMMEDIATELY.
ALSO SERA EVEN IF YOUR TOWN YOU'RE GAMBITING.
HOW DOES NOT BELIEVING YOU SUDDENLY MAKE ME SCUM??

Lol look SpyreX.

Look at how mad they are at this set-up, they think its so ridiculously overpowered they are resorting to "THEY ARE TOWN FUCKING FAKECLAIMING FOR THIS SHIT" because they don't want to BELEIVE they went up against 1 doc 4 investigative and a vig and a bulletproof.

Give them closure.

[Seraphim]

GreyICE, get off your fucking high horse. None of my play even comes close to looking like scum. You want to know why?

First of all, I didn't even need to claim a guilty result on you to get you lynched. In fact, if anything, it's made it MORE DIFFICULT.
Second, if this is a fakeclaim, do you honestly think I'd be stupid to not make sure to have a buddy ready to CC in case you were the bulletproof? I mean, let's take analyze this from a me as scum perspective.

1. We know there's a town bulletproof.
2. There was a 20% chance that you would be the bulletproof.
3. We need ONE mislynch to win.
4. If we mislynch correctly, we do not to deal with the fallout if the real bulletproof flips because the game is over.

In fact, having that CC ready would be an optimal part of any scum plan. It NEEDS to be there. Otherwise, the mislynch isn't happening.

ALSO, GREYICE. SUCK ON THIS.

IF YOU WERE REALLY TOWN, YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED FATE THE MOMENT THAT HE CC'D YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. NOT ME. THE PERSON WHO HAS A ROLE THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOURS. BECAUSE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT I GOT THE WRONG RESULTS, BUT FATE CANNOT "MAYBE" BE THE BULLETPROOF. HE IS OR HE ISN'T.

BUT YOU DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KEEP UP THIS CHARADE OF "LOLSERASCUM" IN ORDER TO WIN. YOU'VE PUT ALL YOUR EGGS INTO ONE BASKET AND RUN THIS ENTIRE SLANDER CAMPAIGN ABOUT HOW MY ROLE IS "ILLOGICAL" AND "UNBALANCED" BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REAL LOGICAL ERROR? TWO BULLETPROOFS IN THE SAME GAME.

BUT IT'S TOO LATE. YOU'VE ACTUALLY CONVINCED YOUR BUDDY THAT YOU CAN GET SHIT DONE AND NOW YOU TRY TO COUNTER THE WAGON ONTO ME. BAD NEWS, BUDDY. UNLESS YOU CAN CONVINCE ME(which isn't happening), FATE(who has a role in direct opposition to you), DAROX(who isn't changing his vote any time soon), OR ZANG(who you have hard pushed all game, called idiotic, etc) THAT I AM SCUM, YOU CAN'T WIN. YOUR RED TEXT IS ABSOLUTELY USELESS AND HAS NO PLACE IN A GAME OF MAFIA.

SOON THE RED TEXT WILL CRUMBLE INTO THE SEA AND IN ITS PLACE WILL REMAIN A THRONE OF MANIPULATION AND LIES. YOUR TEAM THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY SCOTFREE. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. SORRY.

NOW ROT ROT ROT ROT ROT YOU SCUMBAG.

[Llamarble]

Again, more of ME trying to get scum lynched WITHOUT claiming BP and outing my role.

No matter how much you repeat it, it actually only STRENGTHENS my case for being town.

If I were scum, I'd have CC"d immediately and breadcrumbed and this all would've ben PLANNED.

Instead if was town chaos.

You lose marble scum.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SCUM EVER :ACTUALLY: MADE DEEP PLANS WHILE FAKECLAIMING?
AND NO, FINDING :MOUNTAINS: OF PLAYS UNLIKELY FROM A BP DOES NOT MAKE YOU MORE LIKELY BP.
AGAIN, IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY TOWN YOU'RE GAMBITING. END OF STORY.
MAYBE IF YOU STOP IT I'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT YOU AND SERA ARE OBVIOUSLY LYING TO RAMROD A LYNCH THROUGH IN MYLO.

[Fate]

Its true, all these Seraphim votes are pretty lulzy when its GreyICE and MYSELF in the 1v1.

But, ya know, "SCUMZ" and all that

They can't get me mislynched XD

[Seraphim]

If we no lynch, it will be that much easier for scum to mislynch. They only need to convince one town player...here, they have to convince two.

ALSO, FASCINATING THAT YOU DON'T THINK GREYICE IS A MISLYNCH, MOTHERFUCKER. YOU KNOW WHAT HE'LL FLIP.