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Waddesdon路火車站是在開放的白金漢郡，英國農村的一個小停頓。馬拉短的電車，以協助從白金漢宮的廣泛屋白金漢公爵和周圍的貨物運輸和連接公爵的屋艾爾斯伯里和白金漢宮鐵路在Quainton路的一部分，這是在1871年開業。在1872年該行擴大，並轉換為乘客使用，成為被稱為鰈魚電車。線的運作，在1899年接管了總部位於倫敦的大都會鐵路。大城市鐵路在1933年被列入公有製成為大都會的倫敦地鐵線，儘管農村設置 Waddesdon路站成為倫敦交通系統的一部分。新的管理不能看到線的未來，作為一個財政上是可行的客運航線和Waddesdon路，一起休息前布里爾纜車，已於 1935年年底關閉。

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izakthegoomba
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Post #25  » 05 Oct 2011, 07:39
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?
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Post #26  » 05 Oct 2011, 11:33
In post 25, izakthegoomba wrote:
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?


It helps a scum team coordinate. It helps a town person to investigate (see Vi's argumentations why a neighbourizer acts like a cop). And in the end, since we have such a large margin where in we say a game is balanced, this simply falls within that margin. Mostly because as we can see in thread, people aren't very aware what the effects on balance actually are. They state "this helps town or this helps scum" but by how much and if it's actually true remains the question.

In the end people just want a fun game. I don't particulary mind if the mechanic is then connected with the setup or not.
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Post #27  » 05 Oct 2011, 11:40
Back to the OP for a moment:

Look no further than this wiki page.
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Post #28  » 05 Oct 2011, 12:38
In post 25, izakthegoomba wrote:
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?


You mean, all players have a common topic where they can all talk during day? Yeah, I don't think anyone has tried that.
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Post #29  » 05 Oct 2011, 12:55
In post 28, IceGuy wrote:
In post 25, izakthegoomba wrote:
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?


You mean, all players have a common topic where they can all talk during day? Yeah, I don't think anyone has tried that.

No, I mean private communication is fully allowed, from any player, to any player.
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Post #30  » 05 Oct 2011, 13:03
In post 28, IceGuy wrote:
In post 25, izakthegoomba wrote:
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?


You mean, all players have a common topic where they can all talk during day? Yeah, I don't think anyone has tried that.


Are you that clever? WOW
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Post #31  » 05 Oct 2011, 20:57
In post 29, izakthegoomba wrote:
In post 28, IceGuy wrote:
In post 25, izakthegoomba wrote:
But what if it's unlimited daytalk between ALL players, including scum? Surely that helps scum more?
You mean, all players have a common topic where they can all talk during day? Yeah, I don't think anyone has tried that.
No, I mean private communication is fully allowed, from any player, to any player.
It becomes a much more social-skill-based game, and info roles become MUCH more powerful.
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izakthegoomba
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Post #32  » 05 Oct 2011, 21:17
I'd love to play in something like that. The free-daytalk thing.
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Post #33  » 06 Oct 2011, 15:46
I know of a forum where all games play a free-daytalk rule (people are allowed to PM each other at any time for any reason), and it becomes a really different game (try reading this strategy advice column, for instance). The metagame there has devolved into "work out who's most likely to be town, then everyone claim to them via PM, then they set up a really complex Rube Goldberg device at night involving as many different roles as they can in an attempt to verify/deny as many claims as they can, while meanwhile other people work out how to mitigate against them actually being scum". It tends to push more and more in the role-madness/crazy-mechanics direction as a result.

The any-daytalk-allowed mechanic might be interesting in a mountainous game, though, given that the village-leader concept wouldn't work at all; there's no way to arrange a Rube Goldberg machine with nothing but VTs!
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Post #34  » 06 Oct 2011, 16:36
That sounds like it's being turned (by the players) into a whole different game.

A Mountainous version would be great, but we'd need to know who it favours so we can put together a balanced ratio.

Also, I think two scumteams would really compliment a free daytalk game.
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Post #35  » 06 Oct 2011, 18:01
My guess is that it's a townsided mechanic; Neighbourizer is generally considered positive rather than useless (and more useful for town than scum), and the mechanic basically makes everyone infinite-shot Day Neighborizers. I might be wrong, though.

I'd also support making such a game Open Night (i.e. the game thread's not locked overnight and people are allowed to post there), just for logistical reasons (the players could simulate it anyway using a global QT or something, it'd just be messy to do it somewhere other than the main game thread).
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Post #36  » 06 Oct 2011, 18:38
I disagree. My proposition:

3:10 mountainous. Anyone can send PMs to anyone during the Day, but only scum can PM each other at night. All normal mechanics and rules apply, apart from those regarding communication.
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Post #37  » 09 Oct 2011, 21:50
In post 15, shaft.ed wrote:
I think rotational smalltown could lend itself nicely to Large Games

You just became my second Muse.

-runs off to design a setup based on rotational smalltown-
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Post #38  » 09 Oct 2011, 22:06
Who was the first?
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Post #39  » 09 Oct 2011, 23:25
shaft.ed himself has done one, iirc.
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Post #40  » 09 Oct 2011, 23:48
In post 39, Faraday wrote:
shaft.ed himself has done one, iirc.

Still doesn't mean it can't be done again.

@Izak, IDR. I was reading the thread about multiple scum factions or whatever, the one where I posted what if the town was ALL scum factions, when all the sudden a brilliant idea jumped into my head, that I designed a setup around, with the help of empking.
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Post #41  » 09 Oct 2011, 23:54
I was answering Izak's question, I never said/implied it couldn't be done again.
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Post #42  » 10 Oct 2011, 00:02
oic.

Miscommunication XD. I think his question was more directed at who was my first muse. But I see what you meant now.
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Post #43  » 10 Oct 2011, 09:53
Yeah, I was.
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'and the willow sayeth unto the ninja: wherefore dost i weep? 'tis tears of joy, as thy kin and mine together fell thine foes, who would bring the axe and torch to the wood. the log ist thine ally, and mine kin. calling upon the log, is to call upon me. to aid thee in battle, i weep my tear of joy.
and the ninja spoke: yea, thee and thine kin shall forever be blessed among me and mine kin. for thine bravery will never be forgotten.'
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'as the log takes your place, you become the log. the log becomes you. for a moment, you are an extension of the logs blessing unto ninja.'
-book of the log, chronicle of the replacement verse 3

'you are fools! your log is but a mockery of the power of ninja!- the ninja from the desert declared. and the people shook their heads.
you have been denied the log for a long time, sandwalker. we cannot force you to see the glory of the log, but know this. when the time comes, and you have no other allies to call upon, the log will hear your prayers, and aid you.'
-book of the log, redwood journals verses 15-16

'and as the smoke cleared, his foe stared in awe at the log. blackened and charred, the log crumbled. the ninja, filled with righteous wrath, fell upon his foe and slew him. he made his way to the log, and wept. his companion, the log that had accompanied him through so many battles, was no more. he spoke thus to his fallen companion: though now you have fallen in battle, you rest where the logs forever grow. the forest of life called for you, and you answered its call, as you did mine. i thank you my friend.'
-book of the log, honor of the forest canticle I, verses 78-82

'he despaired, for in this place of stone and earth, there was no logs to be found. reaching out with all his might, he begged for a log in the forsaken wasteland. and he was answered, and saved by the log, in a place where there were none.
-book of the log, wanderers saga, verses 7-9

'the log took his place and fell, forever into the abyss. the people, hearing of this, railed against him, in such numbers he swore to never endanger another log again. for many years, he fought without the log, growing more and more weary with each passing day. finally, he came across a foe that was too strong for him. as his life was about to end, he felt a familiar pull, and found himself out of harms way, seeing a log in his place. his stunned foe was felled in his stupor, and he approached the log, he knew it, for it was the same that fell so long ago. he asked of the log: why did you endanger yourself for me again? have you not done enough for me? and the log spoke: it is my duty, and our bond. we exist to save the ninja, and they exist to save the trees. we both play a part, for which i am content.'
-book of the log, honor of the forest canticle II, verses 59-70

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"We now hear the verdicts of King Kiwieagle II of Flying Kiwi.

"Count four verdict,

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not guilty

of perfidy against Melodica and Mistotopia, as charged in count four of the indictment.

"Count four lesser verdict,

"We find the defendant

not guilty

of war of aggression against Dinotopia, as charged in count four of the indictment.

"Count five verdict,

"We find the defendant

not guilty

of mass murder of civilians through poisoning in Fallen Angels, as charged in count five of the indictment.

"Count six verdict,

"We find the defendant

not guilty

of mass murder of civilians through poisoning in Melodica, as charged in count six of the indictment.

"Count eight verdict,

"We find the defendant

guilty

of mass murder of civilians through the use of biochemical weapons, as charged in count eight of the indictment."

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