Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: jmurph3

Please

oh God

, this is already taking too long.

And it also just hit me: why did RandomActs (Jessie) live through Night Five, after he claimed a guilty result on kunkstar7? Answer: jmurph3 is scum, was table to talk with RandomActs, and figured out that RandomActs did not have any investigations left. Otherwise, with the Godfather dead, why risk leaving him alive for a single night after the mass-claim revealed not a single protective role?

BLAH. HURRY UP.

[petroleumjelly]

Sorry, can't stop from myself from another post here, I am just

energized

right now.

First, I can't stop from saying an

I FUCKING KNEW IT

right now. I've been going after FlavourAnalysis

forever

and yet nobody seems to have had the slightest bit of interest in it. The reason always seems to come back to "but gosh, he claimed WOODY." This despite the fact that every other fake-claim we've seen has pretty much been terrible (I mean really,

Ken

?). Given that Scott Brosius gave fake claims in the last large normal he ran, it's a sure bet he gave scum at

least

one good fakeclaim this game, and what better fakeclaim than

Woody

?

Nothing

in FlavourAnalysis' play makes sense as town, but it makes perfect damned sense for scum. I don't know why he killed whoever it was on Night One -- maybe they thought he was a power role. But I can certainly take a guess as to why the scum "jailkept" (i.e., roleblocked) Rainbowdash on Night Two, and why he would claim to use a doctor protection on jmurph3 on Night Three. And then, oh gosh! After Buzz Lightyear claims he was 3-Shot, Woody suddenly doesn't have to fake-claim any more (after breadcrumbing Cop, claiming 1-Shot Vig, and changing to JOAT after seeing a 3-Man Vigilante group claim) so he just doesn't. He has been sliding by on this stupid claim the entire game, and now it is freaking perilously close to winning the game for scum.

I have played this game about as well as I can. I don't

have

a fancy power role to back me up or to dissuade me being lynched, but that sure as Hell hasn't stopped me from trying to get my top picks for scum lynched. I gave up trying to protect Juls yesterday because it was frankly pretty much a lost cause: not a single person was voting with me, nobody was showing interest in voting with me, and even if I somehow managed to stop Juls being lynched yesterday there was no way I could stop her being lynched today. I'm still royally

pissed

that I didn't stick to my vote at least out of principle (which is what I was determined to do until -- not coincidentally -- BOTH FlavourAnalysis and jmurph3 essentially asked me "what's the point?" to which there really isn't a satisfactory answer, and they both knew it).

Also (and this was something I had considered but didn't actually point out earlier), how does it make

any

sense that Bullseye can only neighborize Woody and Jessie? Why wouldn't she also be able to neighborize the final member of Woody's Roundup: Stinky Pete?

Sorry, mostly discombobulated thoughts here. But God if I lose this game after all this.

[diddin]

unvote

NOT REVOTING YET

[petroleumjelly]

Thank sweet jesus, you were giving me a heart attack.

/deflates

[diddin]

SPYREX HONEY WE NEED YOUR INPUT

[petroleumjelly]

If you have questions, give me a bit. I feel like I need to walk (or run) around the block or something. That was like the scariest freaking situation

ever

. My heart is pounding.

[petroleumjelly]

The silence is deafening. Wow.

In case it isn't obvious by now: jmurph3 was probably just continually posting (and apparently not carefully watching what she said) to wave her hand at FlavourAnalysis to signal the quicklynch on me. But apparently FlavourAnalysis just wasn't online or looking at the game -- he had posted about a half hour before jmurph3 did, so the two weren't quite coordinated.

And now, despite jmurph3 being able to respond to me just earlier, she suddenly ups and disappears once she slips up.

HMM.

Must suck to trip right before the finish line.

[Flavour Analysis]

Don't recall talking about RA flips, or anything.

I did get neighbored again though.

PJ, your play is and has been very odd from the start, and many have noticed that. From D2, you tried to accuse me of crumbing a character that YOU HAD, you were trying to fish reasons to pin doubt on me. You have been distracted by lies, and I don't care what you think is good play (yet you haven't really explained why lying isn't good at all, you just speak against it). I feel this is just a ruse from you to make it seem like genuine concern.

[Flavour Analysis]

diddin: UNVOTE. ME. NOW.

I am

NOT

about to be lynched. And I am

not

buying the Masons as scum. They've been on my town list since forever. I'm actually a bit surprised the Masons are alive over Nanook, but I guess that only makes this easier:

The scum here are jmurph3 and FlavourAnalysis. End of story.

Everything -- and I mean

everything

-- points to FlavourAnalysis being scum.

Where did the Night One Mafia kill go?

The answer is that FlavourAnalysis sent in the kill (or at least felt compelled to "cover" for his buddies, whichever). Furthermore, the

only

thing confirming FlavourAnalysis as "Woody" is jmurph3 herself. And additionally, FlavourAnalysis could not give a straight answer on whether or not jmurph3 was "confirmed Town" or merely "confirmed Bullseye": obviously FlavourAnalysis did not want jmurph3 getting lynched, so he tried to toe the line as closely as possible. But he still minced his words whenever it came to giving an opinion on jmurph3.

1.)

jmurph3, why do the Masons "have" to be the remaining scum?

2.)

diddin, why do you think I'm scum? And furthermore, why do you think I'm the "last" scum? Do you seriously think this game only has (had?) four scum in it?

This is not true. I have said confirmed role, and said that seemed townie enough to doc. You just don't want to listen.

[Flavour Analysis]

I think you forget we are a hydra, and my other head had a strong town read on her. Keep that in mind.

[diddin]

OK the two most probable options are:

1. Jmurph and FA are scum together. We lynch Murph today, FA tomorrow for the win.
2. PJ is last scum. Even if we lynch Jmurph and she flips town, PJ hangs tomorrow for the win.

If Jumurph is town, FA cannot be scum without the Mod being bastardly.

[SpyreX]

I hate to do this right now but....

you're gonna have to give me a bit or I'm just sheeping diddin.

Since today I became a daddy.

[diddin]

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

[petroleumjelly]

Congrats!

Sheeping diddin is tech, but I imagine you'll get a kick out of reading these last two pages. Won't take much time once you get there.

[SpyreX]

Ok, with a review I'm tentatively down with one of jmurph/FA today.

The ONE thing I'd like to discuss is: lets assume two scum left for giggles (and it still should be but I digress). IF that is the case then the most obvious case is jmuprh/FA together. The problem with that, of course, is Jessie getting the mod "you're talking to bullseye" business - which is a flavor argument yea yea but it still bugs me.

Of the other two scum combinations jmurph/PJ makes more sense than FA/PJ. I have a hard time stomaching the super bus coming from pretty much the moment PJ came in.

As for PJ and I'll say it - raw logic still makes me think its you. However, without question, of the remainder you've played the best game and I'd probably be almost as torqued as you if we lose because you're the town lynch today. I'll say it now - regardless of alignment you've played an absolutely solid game. Part of it is if you'd been here from start (remember I, more than anyone, wanted your predecessor lynched) we'd probably not be having this conversation.

However if I'm wrong here - PJ, you ARE the lynch tomorrow (and, of course, the simple fact is one of diddin and I HAS to be killed tonight or its an auto win), So, lets assume this is the worst case scenario of one scum left in FA/Jmurph.

Considering the cases of two scum jmurph makes more sense for the lynch.
If there's one scum I'd lean towards it being FA.

And in the deepest, darkest part of my belly:

If town loses this to scum, I can't stomach losing it to FA.

So, I'd like actual opinions from all of you and then we'll pick a direction.

[petroleumjelly]

Respectfully, SpyreX, I don't think it's possible for there to be only one scum. But

if

there is somehow one scum, I think it has to be jmurph3 because

she

is the one who just got caught in a lie concerning her neighborizing ability.

jmurph3 claimed she cannot talk to somebody on the same night she neighborizes them. Her first post today said she neighborized FA last night. And then she claimed she talked to FA about Jessie's (RandomActs') death. That is simply not possible unless jmurph3 was lying from the get-go, but the thing is: she

can't

be lying about how her neighborizing ability works because Jessie (RandomActs) confirmed that she could not talk to jmurph3 on the night he was neighborized.

Which means

that jmurph3 is a scum neighborizer. I don't understand the whole Bullseye business either, but it is simply

not possible

that jmurph3 could talk to FlavourAnalysis last night

unless

they are, in fact, scum together.

It's not every day scum slip like up this, and jmurph3's complete and total avoidance of this thread after slipping is as damning as any case I can possibly make. So too is the fact that she was steadily posting a half hour after FlavourAnalysis was online: it is pretty obvious she was just trying to while away the time in the hopes FlavourAnalysis would log on so they could quicklynch me. But unfortunately for them, diddin (

thankfully

) logged on first and unvoted me.

If you think the only other conceivable pairing is jmurph3/me, then jmurph3 is undoubtedly the lynch today. And in a manner of speaking, I almost prefer to her lynch her first because that means that tomorrow I will not only get to see FlavourAnalysis lynched, but it will be the lynch that wins the game. That would be a very nice (and fitting) way to finish this wretched game in my mind.

[diddin]

The scumteam cannot be FA/PJ without EXTREME bastard modding. Jmurph dies today.

[SpyreX]

I thought he did before last night too?

Hell, if I was wrong about that.

Unvote, vote: Jmurph

Lets do it gents.

[diddin]

Vote: Jmurph3

[Scott Brosius]

No horsing around today, must hang the horsey. Or....?

jmurph3, Lotso Bear (Mafia Neighbor) lynched Day 8!

Deadline is 48 hours from this post 4pm Oct. 7th.

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[Scott Brosius]

Delicious spuds are everywhere.

SpyreX, Mr. Potato Head (Mason) killed Night 8

It is now Day 9!

Vote Count 9-1

diddin

(0)-

Flavour Analysis

(0)-

petroleumjelly

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Not Voting (3)- diddin, Flavour Analysis, petroleumjelly,

With 3 alive, it's 2 to a lynch.

Deadline is October 14th at 1pm EST.

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[diddin]

Crossvote you two.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: FlavourAnalysis

[Flavour Analysis]

Vote: Pj

Yo Pj. So tell me again, why did you push for PJ instead of me yesterday?

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: Pj

Yo Pj. So tell me again, why did you push for

jmurph3

instead of me yesterday?

Fixed that for you.

You had all night to think of a way to try to mislynch me, and this is your big question? My answer is pretty much Post #2540. Still:

Regardless of whether I thought you were scum (which I did), jmurph3's handling of yesterday -- waiting for you to show yourself online so the two of you could quicklynch me, and also suggesting that she talked to you about RandomActs' death -- confirmed to me that she was your partner. Still, it was

technically

possible for her to be lone scum, and so she was the better lynch. Finally, I'm not stupid: if I know two players are scum but I know I will have an easier time lynching one of them first, I will likely push to lynch that player first. Such turned out to be the case here.

At this point, there is nothing that confirms your Woody claim. Your "Vigilante" shot was a scum kill; your "jailkeep" on Rainbowdash was a role-block; and your "protection" of jmurph3 only exists insofar as the two of you have "protected" each other all game by soft-confirming each other.

Please die now.