Outwitted - Mini 1254 (Game Over)

[GreyICE]

Motherfucker.

Well, isn't that awesome. The town is now 3 for 3 for wagons that out town power roles, since I am the tracker, and probably the only living town info role.

unvote

We are so fucked.

Only information I have is that either CES didn't do anything night 1, or else he is a scum who outbid me. Since I only used 1 point, that wouldn't have been hard. The way the tracker role works is that if I use any points, I find out what my target did if they were a town power role, but I have to spend more points then the scum do to see if they killed anyone.

Also, my role PM only talks about the scum nightkill and town power roles, so I'm pretty sure there aren't any scum power roles like scum doctor.

ALSO YOU SERIOUSLY WROTE THIS?

YOU THINK THERE IS:

TOWN COP
TOWN DOCTOR
TOWN TRACKER
TOWN EN VIG
TOWN BULLETPROOF

AND THAT THERE'S NO FUCKING SCUM POWER ROLES?

I DON'T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT POINT MECHANICS, THAT'S INSANE.

[GreyICE]

Oh my fucking god, I can't believe I'm suggesting this.

Is it time for a day 1 mass claim?

[GreyICE]

Reasoning:

I seriously do not believe that on day 1, with TWO CONFIRMED INFORMATION roles in the setup, and ONE CONFIRMED PROTECTIVE role that two of the three claims (the two I had scumreads on) were THE REMAINING INFORMATION ROLE and the REMAINING PROTECTIVE ROLE

It just seems derptacular.

The only known town power role we'll be outing is the bulletproof, which isn't exactly a big deal, since I doubt he's randomly getting shot anyway with all this *cough*town*cough* power about. An acceptable risk.

We'll lock scum into fakeclaims today.

Other than that, I'm so happy riding Yos home.

[Fate]

I agree with....

Whoever said Yos calling Marble confirmed town was out of character and scummy as fuck.

That's as good as a guilty, lynch without claim =====[ ]

Lynch Zang tomorrow for lulz if I turn up dead.

[Fate]

Oh great Yos claimed tracker

SIIIIIIIIIIGH THE FUCK IS THISSSSSSSS

Thats his FAVORITE scum fakeclaim

[Fate]

And nothing about other scum prs?

rittteeeeeeeee

The chances of this lottery coming up PR PR is sooo nannas

This is bullshti and the LETS LET NIGHT SORT SHIT OUT game is a fucking crapshoot.

But hell

Lets just do what we were going to fucking do ANYWAY

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ZANG

[Fate]

Why did you claim?

Because I was gonna murdalize him tonight/today.

Unvote; Vote: Llmarble

If you're really a vig shut the fuck up and shoot Marble tonight

[Fate]

Hey my money si on Yos SCUMTRACKER looking for a potential CES TOWN GAMBIT before it happened

[Fate]

Fate's super awesome plan for victory:

Lynch Zang, NO FUCKING HESITATION OR QUESTIONS OR FUCKING CLAIMS THIS TIME. I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF HES THE BULLETPROOF HE IS A WASTE OF A SLOT
D2: Massclaim. Sort the shit out and purge with fire

[Llamarble]

Whoever said Yos calling Marble confirmed town was out of character and scummy as fuck.

That's as good as a guilty, lynch without claim =====[ ]

What does that mean? Yos called Andrius confirmed town and what's the whoever said about?
Also why am I getting shot all of a sudden? That is not okay.

at least one town bulletproof

So if the bulletproof doesn't get counterclaimed, it's a BULLETPROOF INNOCENT CHILD.
And if it does get counterclaimed then it's basically a free dead scum, unless we think there are 2 town ones.

So no way in HELL do we have:
Cop (Probably better than without the game mechanic)
Doctor (weakened somewhat)
Bulletproof innocent childish dude (whoah)
Even night vig (Probably better than without the game mechanic (can shoot through scumprotects and can fail to kill townies)
Tracker (weakened somewhat at finding scum but can unambiguously confirm the doc, the cop, and the vig)
All as town.
There was the whole N0 thing, but even for a 12p mini that amount of power is ridiculous.

Also if we do massclaim, I think the bulletproof doesn't claim yet.
It's already modconfirmed town and definitely benefits from being anonymous.

[Fate]

You being shot is fine, die marble die.

(ooooh look how he BELIEVES LLD's vig claim automatically and is quivering in his boots)

Anyway let me rephrase: Whoever said: Yos calling" that PERSON is townie as fuck, and Yos is scummy as fuck.

Time for a Zang auto-lynch pl0x

(I didnt realize the BP was modconfirmed >_> uhhh I GUESS if Zang is BP he can just claim and town can just lose lawl)

[SpyreX]

I'm flat out saying I'll buy and eat all the hats that have ever existed if both Yos and Andrius are town.

HOWEVER BLOOD CONTRACT

Unvote, Vote: Zang

[Fate]

We'll get to them tomorrow.

We must prepare the altar for, we must sacrifice the nobodies.

Then the demons will come out to play and the holy crusade will start.

[Yosarian2]

So no way in HELL do we have:
Cop (Probably better than without the game mechanic)
Doctor (weakened somewhat)
Bulletproof innocent childish dude (whoah)
Even night vig (Probably better than without the game mechanic (can shoot through scumprotects and can fail to kill townies)
Tracker (weakened somewhat at finding scum but can unambiguously confirm the doc, the cop, and the vig)
All as town.
There was the whole N0 thing, but even for a 12p mini that amount of power is ridiculous.

I think you're missing how totally outgunned the town power roles are at night. On any given night, the scum can totally override the doc, or the tracker, ect, because they have a ton more points. Doc+cop isn't especially broken if the scum can just kill the cop when he claims no matter if there is a doctor alive or not.

[Yosarian2]

Anyway, I didn't say there are no scum power roles. I said I didn't think there are any scum power roles that target people. A scum godfather or a scum bulletproof or whatever makes perfect sense in this setup.

[Yosarian2]

I'm flat out saying I'll buy and eat all the hats that have ever existed if both Yos and Andrius are town.

Do you know how open games work?

Also, if you didn't mindlessly join freaking terrible bandwagons for no reason, then we might not be IN this situation.

HOWEVER BLOOD CONTRACT

Unvote, Vote: Zang

Care to explain this? Zang is looking pretty town this game. He's certainly playing in a much better and more pro-town way then several people.

Also, you still never explained you Andreius vote, or your vote for me.

I mean, if you're seriously going to just mindlessly sheep on Fate all game without giving any of your opinions, we really can just lynch you now instead.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

LLD, what do you do on odd Nights?

I did want to see if CES specifically was a pro-town power role targeting anyone night zero, because last game I played with him he made a scummy-nominated brilliant doc fakeclaim, and I wanted to be able to at least catch him in a lie if he faked a doctor claim this game.

...

That was CrashTextDummy.

I pretty much always claim VT as scum, so yeah, not the best move.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I didn't send a number last night, so I assume I don't have to?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Weird that there's a role that doesn't send in a card each night. Wouldn't've expected it.

I just checked with the zor - the mafia's Kill cards are factional, so Yos got that wrong.

Unvote, vote: Lurc

I don't see the benefit of mass claim.

[zoraster]

Day 1

Andrius ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Darox ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

GreyICE ( 2 ) Zang, Darox,

(L - 5 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 1 ) Andrius,

(L - 6 )

LLamarble ( 1 ) Lady Lambdadelta,

(L - 6 )

Lurconis ( 1 ) Cogito Ergo Sum,

(L - 6 )

Fate ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Seraphim ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

SpyreX ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Yosarian2 ( 4 ) Fate, Seraphim, GreyICE, Lurconis,

(L - 3 )

Zang ( 2 ) Yosarian2, SpyreX,

(L - 5 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 1 ) LLamarble,
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


Deadline: 11:00am EDT on Friday, October 14th

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: Lurc

[Llamarble]

(ooooh look how he BELIEVES LLD's vig claim automatically and is quivering in his boots)

Anyway let me rephrase: Whoever said: Yos calling" that PERSON is townie as fuck, and Yos is scummy as fuck.

I don't really buy LLD just claiming for a one-day stay of execution and guaranteeing an autolynch later when Yos could've been lynched without her having to claim at all.
Nor do I buy scum extra kill + N0.
So yeah, Yos or Andy is scum.
But if we leave both alive scum must either narrow it down for us or shoot VTs and LLD can confirm herself as town.
(I think Andy should protect LLD on a high number)
VOTE: GreyICE

[Zang]

I can understand the benefit of a massclaim but I think the scum would benefit more from it. I'll claim though if the town thinks it is best.

Fate's super awesome plan for victory:

Lynch Zang, NO FUCKING HESITATION OR QUESTIONS OR FUCKING CLAIMS THIS TIME. I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF HES THE BULLETPROOF HE IS A WASTE OF A SLOT
D2: Massclaim. Sort the shit out and purge with fire

I'M A WASTE OF A SLOT? All you have been doing is randomly voting people and other stuff that is not pro-town at all. It's because of you that we have three claimed power roles on day 1.

I would vote for you but GreyICE is

still ignoring me

So if the bulletproof doesn't get counterclaimed, it's a BULLETPROOF INNOCENT CHILD.
And if it does get counterclaimed then it's basically a free dead scum, unless we think there are 2 town ones.

So no way in HELL do we have:
Cop (Probably better than without the game mechanic)
Doctor (weakened somewhat)
Bulletproof innocent childish dude (whoah)
Even night vig (Probably better than without the game mechanic (can shoot through scumprotects and can fail to kill townies)
Tracker (weakened somewhat at finding scum but can unambiguously confirm the doc, the cop, and the vig)
All as town.
There was the whole N0 thing, but even for a 12p mini that amount of power is ridiculous

If the town bulletproof is confirmed then wouldn't it just be counterclaimed by scum?

I'm flat out saying I'll buy and eat all the hats that have ever existed if both Yos and Andrius are town.

HOWEVER BLOOD CONTRACT

Unvote, Vote: Zang

You're playing just as bad as fate if not worse. Since he replaced him, all you have been doing is mindlessly sheeping him making his votes even worse.

This also applies to CES and Darox both to a lesser extent.

I don't really buy LLD just claiming for a one-day stay of execution and guaranteeing an autolynch later when Yos could've been lynched without her having to claim at all.
Nor do I buy scum extra kill + N0.
So yeah, Yos or Andy is scum.
But if we leave both alive scum must either narrow it down for us or shoot VTs and LLD can confirm herself as town.
(I think Andy should protect LLD on a high number)
VOTE: GreyICE

Why are you voting GreyICE? As much as I agree with your vote, you've given no reasoning.

[Yosarian2]

(ooooh look how he BELIEVES LLD's vig claim automatically and is quivering in his boots)

Anyway let me rephrase: Whoever said: Yos calling" that PERSON is townie as fuck, and Yos is scummy as fuck.

I don't really buy LLD just claiming for a one-day stay of execution and guaranteeing an autolynch later when Yos could've been lynched without her having to claim at all.
Nor do I buy scum extra kill + N0.
So yeah, Yos or Andy is scum.

...

What?

Me and Andy are confirmed town, or at least I assume we will both be once the town mass-claims. LLD is going to be nearly confirmed town tonight. Why would you say "Yos or Andy is scum"?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yos is confirmed town by virtue of him misunderstanding the kill mechanics anyhow.