Outwitted - Mini 1254 (Game Over)

[Zang]

If anything that makes you more scummy.

[Yosarian2]

Yos, while it says "this setup has at least 1 protective role", nowhere does it say that THE ROLE MUST BE TOWN.

Infact, it explicitly DOES NOT say that.

Vote: Yosarian

Oh, please. The entire point of this game is that scum roles and town are trying to outguess and outbid each other, where scum spend X points to kill someone and try to outspend anyone trying to counter them. The idea that that makes sense in a setting with no town protective roles is just absurd.

In any case, the mod saying "this setup has at least one protective role" in a setup that had no town protective roles and a scum doctor would basically be bastard modding. Zoraster has a really neat idea here for a logic-based, try-to-outsmart-the-other-side night mechanic that he based the game on here; the idea he would do that and then tell the town that they have a protective role when they don't is absurd.

[Yosarian2]

I'm pretty damn sure I want to lynch Yos.

Llamarble says that Yos's posting has "a lot of scumhunty stuff with solid insightfactor" and I severely disagree. He would NEVER unvote someone for being a shameless bandwagoner. That just does not look like a town play, especially since he doesn't follow with a vote after.

I unvoted Darox because his play looked town-ish to me at the time, and I unvote people when they look town. I then immediately turned around and voted someone else. I don't know what you're talking about with your "he dosn't follow with a vote after" comment.

It may be burden of proficiency but Yos has just been making bad plays that I don't see Yos-town making.

I believe I have yet to make a bad play this game. You, on the other hand, have been playing incredibly poorly so far this game, pushing a mindless wagon with such zero-logic intensity that half the town thought you were hinting at a power role, inventing connection out of thin air, and basically just doing random stuff. I don't even think you're scum, but I think you don't have the faintest idea what you're doing.

[Yosarian2]

Anyway, I'd be willing to lynch either SpyreX or GreyICE. GreyICE is playing to the scum win condition pretty openly at this point, and really has been all game, so either he's scum or just an idiot, and I don't really think he's an idiot. SpyreX's play looks even worse, honestly; I don't . Also, I want an explanation from Darox on voting for Andreus, and especally on his decision keeping him at lynch -1 AFTER the doc claim, at which point And became completely confirmed town.

(Yeah, yeah, a real doc shouldn't counterclaim a doc claim on day 1, but that doesn't even matter; either Andreus is confirmed town, or else he's doomed scum that we're 100% sure to catch later, and town make much more sense, ect ect. I really shouldn't even have had to explain this, I figured it was self-evident.)

[Yosarian2]

Heh, didn't finish that once sentence in the middle. "SpyreX's play looks even worse, honestly; I really can't see town-SpyreX mindlessly bandwagoning Fate of all people for no reason."

[Yosarian2]

Also, sorry for quadriple posting, but the more I think about it, the less semse Lady Lambdadelta recent actions make to me. She threatenes to hammer the basically confirmed-town doc *AFTER* he claims, and then when I point that out, she turns around and joins a huge wagon on me for apparent reason even though she's been defending me and calling me town all game. It's just a bizzare set of posts. What's going through your head here, LLD?

[Fate]

oh look you construct your posts in parts while constantly re-evaluating how townie it will sound instead of letting the words flow from your town mindset.

LOLSCUM

[Yosarian2]

oh look you construct your posts in parts while constantly re-evaluating how townie it will sound instead of letting the words flow from your town mindset.

LOLSCUM

Oddly, this series of posts actually reinforces my town read on fate, since the only game I've played with him so far where he *didn't* mindlessly tunnel on me for no reason was the game where he was scum.

Also, lol at Fate's assumption that anyone who thinks about what he's saying is scum. Seeing his playstyle, I suppose that's not surprising.

[Seraphim]

TownYos also doesn't tend to insult people this much.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

CES, why'd you vote Andrius?

Shush you. You're supposed to let me get away with the bandwagonning like the rest are doing.

Unvote, vote: LLD

[Yosarian2]

TownYos also doesn't tend to insult people this much.

I do when they play like idiots.

[Seraphim]

My attack on Lurc was not unsubstantiated. You called my play incredibly poor.

I don't appreciate that. At all.

It's one to say "your arguments are wrong". It's another to attack Fate and me personally and sling mud everywhere to try and get people to ignore us.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Slushy snowballs.

[Llamarble]

Well CES, I like your current choice of bandwagon.
Yos and Andy are invited too.

Ah right Fate did unvote Andy preventing a potential hammer.

and?

And that was town of you.
What do you think of LLD?

Yos totally can be insulting as town. His iso in The Mafia with the Hydras contains "stupid" and "idiot" 11 times each.

[Andrius]

I've never actually been in a game with Yos_town.

That's besides the point.

I'd be down for a LLD wagon since Darox isn't going anywhere near the gallows.

Unvote, Vote: LLD

[Yosarian2]

My attack on Lurc was not unsubstantiated. You called my play incredibly poor.

I don't appreciate that. At all.

It's one to say "your arguments are wrong". It's another to attack Fate and me personally and sling mud everywhere to try and get people to ignore us.

I suppose that's true. I'm sorry that I'm getting personal here, I'm just incredibly frustrated by this game at this point. We lost our cop night zero, then our doctor was bandwagoned to a claim, with people then talking about hammering him *AFTER HE CLAIMED*, in what is basically an open setup where we *know* we have a doc. Including multiple people who, at least up until this point, I had had a town read on. And then basically that same group of people who just outed the doc are wagoning me for no reason, all the way up to, like, lynch -1 or something. It's like the town is racing to see how fast it can self-destruct, and trying to see if we can lose this game before the end of the first day.

Now, to be fair, your Lurc vote wasn't terrible, he's also one of my top suspects (or at least was, before a bunch of other people decided to enter a "let's see how anti-town I can possibly be" contest). However, the way you just randomally said "Lurc and Yos and GreyICE are scum together" right while I was in the middle of attacking both Lurc and GreyICE, and that WAS a terrible post. And now you're voting me based on, i donno, some meta you think you have of me that makes no sense and on a statement that is 100% factually inaccurate, while you seem to pretty much just be ignoring everything else I said.

And by the way, the other reason I'm pissed at you is that you accused me of "not legitimatly scumhunting" when I've been doing SO much more real scumhunting this game then you have. All you did was say "Lol lurc is scum" for a while without really bothering to back it up with logic, and then go over to voting me for reasons that are pretty terrible. You actually get a fair amount of town cred for not getting on the Andreus wagon, and I think you are probably town, but that doesn't stop me from being frustrated by the quality of your scumhunting so far this game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Look at those scum wagon me. ^-^

[Andrius]

Look at those scum wagon me. ^-^

Then lynch me.
OH WAIT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Look at those scum wagon me. ^-^

Then lynch me.
OH WAIT

LOOK AT THIS CHEEKY MOTHERFUCKER.

[Andrius]

ok im sick of fate/lld/whothefuckeverelse is all "i still think andy is scum but we'll keep him around" bullshit.
if you think im scum vote me and get me dead and gone i don't want to be here if you're all going to be twits and i sure as hell won't want to be around in lylo with the same group of twits being led or leading people on the "well andy_doc would be dead by now so he's scum" bullshit wifom that we dont need i swear we aren't even scumhunting anymore its just

FATE: HI IM HERE WAGON RANDOM PEOPLE
CES: YARR!
GI: KAY FATE WHATEVER MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS
LLD: YAYYY WAGON ON ANDY
Andy: The fuck? I'm Doc.
LLD: yes but no but yes but no i want you dead
FATE: WELL HES PROBABLY SCUM BUT THEY WONT WANT TO LYNCH HIM SO
YOS: (shrug)
SERA: K ANDY'S SCUM NOW DESPITE PLAY LYNCHLYNCH
SPYREX: K IMMA SHEEP FATE NOW K IMMA GO NOT PLAY THE GAME NOW
ZANG: Hey guys I think tha-
FATE: NO ONE CARES YOU FUCK

*sigh*
I'm going to go away and not read this for awhile
makes me mad
and im no red lantern

[Andrius]

Look at those scum wagon me. ^-^

Then lynch me.
OH WAIT

LOOK AT THIS CHEEKY MOTHERFUCKER.

Then vote me you pansy.
If you think I'm scum then vote me and stop dicking around with fate and gi

[zoraster]

Day 1

Andrius ( 1 ) Darox,

(L - 6 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 1 ) Lurconis,

(L - 6 )

Darox ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

GreyICE ( 1 ) Zang,

(L - 6 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 3 ) LLamarble, Cogito Ergo Sum, Andrius,

(L - 4 )

LLamarble ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Lurconis ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Fate ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Seraphim ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

SpyreX ( 1 ) Yosarian2,

(L - 6 )

Yosarian2 ( 5 ) Fate, Seraphim, SpyreX, GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta,

(L - 2 )

Zang ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


Deadline: 11:00am EDT on Friday, October 14th

[Zang]

CES, why'd you vote Andrius?

Shush you. You're supposed to let me get away with the bandwagonning like the rest are doing.

Unvote, vote: LLD

CES could also be scum.

I've never actually been in a game with Yos_town.

That's besides the point.

I'd be down for a LLD wagon since Darox isn't going anywhere near the gallows.

Unvote, Vote: LLD

You just criticized your wagon for having no reason to vote you so now you go and join a wagon and post no reasons for voting them?

[Andrius]

Zang: nope. i have reasons.
reason being she voted me for having no reason so im voting her with the reason being her voting without reasons is that reason enough?
and llama's part on her was awesome.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yos, you should join the LLDwagon.