Outwitted - Mini 1254 (Game Over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Dammit Fate.

Look at Marble.

LOOK AT THOSE YOS VOTES. Wrrrrryyyyyyyy is he so scummy -_-

[Darox]

Yay, Fate is here!
Lurc claims town? Okay.
VOTE: Yos

Bad vote.

Goddamn it come join me on the Zang wagon.

The wagon is made of awesome win.

Bad wagon.

Fate, you should get on Lurcscum. Trust me on this one.

This guy knows what's up.

[zoraster]

Day 1

Andrius ( 1 ) Fate,

(L - 6 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 1 ) Lurconis,

(L - 6 )

Darox ( 2 ) Yosarian2, Andrius,

(L - 5 )

GreyICE ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

LLamarble ( 1 ) Lady Lambdadelta,

(L - 6 )

Lurconis ( 4 ) Seraphim, Cogito Ergo Sum, SpyreX, Darox,

(L - 3 )

Fate ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Seraphim ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

SpyreX ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Yosarian2 ( 1 ) LLamarble,

(L - 6 )

Zang ( 1 ) GreyICE,

(L - 6 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 1 ) Zang,
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


Deadline: 11:00am EDT on Friday, October 14th

[Fate]

Fate, you should get on Lurcscum. Trust me on this one.

I can't yet he's at L-3

I can only be the first vote on a wagon or the last, its part of my PR

[Fate]

Dammit Fate.

Look at Marble.

LOOK AT THOSE YOS VOTES. Wrrrrryyyyyyyy is he so scummy -_-

YOS IS SCUM DIDNT YOU LISTEN TO SPYREX?

[Fate]

Which puts me at READS ITERATION #1:
TOWN
Llamarble
CES
Spyspy
GreyICE

Probtown:
Seraphim
Zang
Andy

Eh:
Darox

SCUM:
LLD
ML
Yos
Lurconis

Ok yeah I looked at Marble

Wow look he's obvtown

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Dammit Fate.

Look at Marble.

LOOK AT THOSE YOS VOTES. Wrrrrryyyyyyyy is he so scummy -_-

YOS IS SCUM DIDNT YOU LISTEN TO SPYREX?

Yos isn't scum Man.

MARBLE is scum.

Cut: How in the hells is he obv town -_-

[Fate]

Oh LLD its so much more fun when you're scum

Failtown doesn't suit you quite right

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh LLD its so much more fun when you're scum

Failtown doesn't suit you quite right

I know Sweetie, I know.

Now humor me. I too found that line by Andrius to be horribad, but I found it was in response to a comment MADE BY MARBLE.

Marble was the one who initiated the NK Spec and "Oh lol why did Fishy die" crap.

[Fate]

And Andrius was the one that "oh noes I was so sad HOW DID THEY FIND THE COP????" ffs.

Marble was in a game where Yos was scum and Fishy was town, Fishy town beat Yos scum.

His speculation is natural.

Do I have to fakeclaim masons with him AGAIN for fucks sake?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmm. Iffy.

Still though, Andrius' blood would make me happy too.

[Fate]

This game is about to reach 10 pages without a lynch

WTF people, we had a N0 and everything

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MORE POSTS ARE MORE ANTI_TOWN

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

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[Fate]

I'm gonna go ahead and call CES obvtown and hope he dies tonight

/breadcrumb

[Yosarian2]

Meh. Darox feels like town now. That degree of shameless bandwagoning just doesn't feel like scum.

unvote:darox

That means I have to

bullshi

find another suspect to vote for. One moment.

[GreyICE]

I agree with Marble town.

Fate is a power role AND an excellent scumhunter PLUS obvtown. Unfortunately a strong ocular disorder is preventing me from reading his posts. How sad.

Vote: Yosarian

[Fate]

OH NOW I'M OBVTOWN?

ONLY SCUM CAN GET OBVTOWN READS WITHOUT READING THE PERSONS POSTS

DIE YOU SCUMFUCK

VOTE: GREYICE

[GreyICE]

Go gargle Drano, you waste of flesh.

[Fate]

I love it when you talk dirty to me you scumbag

TELL ME BOUT THE TIME YOU KILLED FISHY

[Fate]

Meh. Darox feels like town now. That degree of shameless bandwagoning just doesn't feel like scum.

unvote:darox

That means I have to

bullshi

find another suspect to vote for. One moment.

How many moments have passed I wonder?

Who keeps track as we drift along...

WELLWELLWELL IF IT ISN'T A HAPPY REUNION OF ALL MY FAVORITE SCUMFUCKSS

[Yosarian2]

Analysis of players:

[*] SpyreX

This post hurts my head.

I'm voting Lucronis. My gut says he's going to flip town. HOWEVER, on the chance I am wrong I am absolutely for this because no way is Sera a bus (and it makes sense but we know about things that make sense in mafia games).

If I had a bullet tonight I'd shoot

Fate because its Fate AND HE KNOWS WHY

.... Yos.

Yea, thats a gut read I cant shake yet. Yes, I'm a little distracted because baby and all but even the quickread makes me think that.

Additionally I bet Zang is pants on head town this game. Andy is suspect.

Fate will hammer.

All these things are truthisms.

Spyrex being paranoid about me and not knowing why is probably null for him. On the other hand, "I think the person I'm voting for is town but I'm going to stay on this bandwagon (the biggest one in the game)" does not make any sense to me at all. If you think a bandwagon is probably bad, you stay the hell off if it and find a better bandwagon. All that weirdness about "I'm sticking with this wagon because don't think Serephem is bussing" doesn't make any sense, either; if you thought Serephem WAS bussing, then that'd be a GREAT reason to sheep on him. When the scum want to bus each other, what you do is you fuel up the bus, give it a tune-up, put a huge V-8 engine in that baby and hand them the keys with a smile. Ok, that analogy got a little werid, but you get my drift. "I'm going to follow this bad wagon because I don't think it's one scum bussing another" just seems so anti-town I can't wrap my head around it.

The rest of his posting is pretty thin. The one where he declares that Darox and GreyIce are both town actually does make sense to me, but Spyrex doesn't come off well here in general.

Conclusion: scummy-ish, want more data.

[*] LLamarble

Probably town-ish. Nightkill speculation is of course unreliable as hell, but it's a perfectly valid reason to place a day 1 vote, even when it's wrong. I also feel better about him now that he cleared up that his "secret scumtell" on me was that he didn't like the way I was going after Darox.


[*] Andrius

Mostly null; he gets some town points for some reasonable looking scumhunting.


[*] GreyICE

I really, really wanted to vote for him just because he attacked someone for "quote striping", lol. I hate that kind of thing. Seriously though, so far GreyICE has apparently been pushing a wagon on someone (Zang) basically because he thinks the person is VI and wants to policy lynch him. He doesn't seem to have any real comments about Zang's play this game; and he hasn't really commented on anyone else, other then to briefly jump on and then off the Lurconis wagon. Pushing a policy lynch without really commenting on anyone else and without really seeming to even want to try to get a real read on Zang seems pretty anti-town to me. Verdict: Somewhat scummy.


[*] Zang

The other half of the apparent Zang-GreyICE grudgematch, he dosn't come off looking any better then GreyICE. All he's done so far is defend himself against policy votes and OMGUS vote people for voting him. Verdict: Somewhat scummy.

I'll also say that I do not think this is distancing; Zang and GreyICE both come off looking bad here, but I really do not think they are scum together. If one of them flips scum, the other one is probably town.

[*] Fate

Magister Ludi

I think I've played 4 or 5 games with Fate now, and I still don't know how to read him. That being said, I don't have any specific problems with his posts thus far. Going to put him in the null to townish range for now.

[*] Cogito Ergo Sum

No problems with his play thus far. He can fake scumhunting quite well as scum, though. Null-ish.

[*] Darox

Probably town, for reason I just explained.

[*] Seraphim

Thinking he's probably town. His charge against Lurconis is just so ludicrously over-the-top to an almost silly degree on such thin evidence. I don't really see a scum coming out of the gate with a move like that, although it is possible.

[*] Lady Lambdadelta

Probably town. Aggressive scumhunting, logical points, fearless poking of suspicious looking people , willing to change mind with new evidence. Also, she defended me for basically no reason, and I'm just going to assume that that must mean she's awesome town.

[*] Lurconis

-He seemed a little overeager to argue Serephem couldn't be soft-claiming info result. Not sure what that means.

-Says he's "most suspicious" of LLmarble but doesn't want to vote. Mildly anti-town, but I've seen too many overcautious town say that to really think it's a good scum tell. Is this degree of vote-caution normal meta for him?

-Hasn't really scumhunted enough. The closest thing he's done is to say that he thinks Serephem is probably town and CES is probably scum for the way they've voted him, and leave his vote on CES, which is interesting, but he hasn't really expanded on his CES read.

Lurconis, can you explain why you think CES is scum? What do you think about his posts in general? Can you explain what in his posts looks scum motivated to you?

Also, if you could give your reads on more people, that'd be helpful.


Right now, I'm going to

Vote:Spyrex

. Also would consider voting GreyICE, Zang, or Lurconis.

PPE: And as I was writing this post, GreyICE votes me without any reasoning. Interesting.

[Yosarian2]

How many moments have passed I wonder?

Who keeps track as we drift along...

WELLWELLWELL IF IT ISN'T A HAPPY REUNION OF ALL MY FAVORITE SCUMFUCKSS

Lol. Yeah, it took me about 40 minutes to re-read everyone in the game and make that post. Sorry not all of us can find scum as quickly as you can, Fate.

[Fate]

Oh god so much effort only to piss it away on a SpyrX vote

Ninja: GLAD YOU ADMIT I'VE CAUGHT ALL THE SCUM YOU CHEEKY FUCK HEHAHAHA

[Zang]

Yay, Fate is here!
Lurc claims town? Okay.
VOTE: Yos

For the same reasons as before?

Why do you think lurc is town?

ANDRIUS

WHY WILL ZANG BE ANY BETTER?

HE CLAIMED TO HAVE A META OF FUCKING DELIBERATELY LURKING. HE WORKS ON THIS SO HE CAN LURK OUT ALL HIS SCUM GAMES.

PLUS I HATE HIS POSTS.

HE'S AT LEAST AS SCUMMY AS LURCONIS, AND DAROX AND... WHY DON'T WE HAVE A VIG.

OH MY GOD THE PAIN THE PAIN.

FATE WE CAN'T LYNCH ANDRIUS TODAY TOO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE NEED TO DIE WITH FIRE.

What does this have to do with me?

This game is about to reach 10 pages without a lynch

WTF people, we had a N0 and everything

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MORE POSTS ARE MORE ANTI_TOWN

Why do you want a lynch so soon?

Conclusion: scummy-ish, want more data.

This is enough for you to vote for him?

The other half of the apparent Zang-GreyICE grudgematch, he dosn't come off looking any better then GreyICE. All he's done so far is defend himself against policy votes and OMGUS vote people for voting him. Verdict: Somewhat scummy.

I've done a lot more than arguing with GreyICE.

[Yosarian2]

Conclusion: scummy-ish, want more data.

This is enough for you to vote for him?

Yes. Not a rock-solid scum read, but at this point, 8 pages in, that's the strongest scum read I have. Also, the best way to get more data here is probably to apply some pressure and see what happens.

The other half of the apparent Zang-GreyICE grudgematch, he dosn't come off looking any better then GreyICE. All he's done so far is defend himself against policy votes and OMGUS vote people for voting him. Verdict: Somewhat scummy.

I've done a lot more than arguing with GreyICE.

Fair enough. I misread your vote for Serephem; looking at it again, right after reading Serephem's posts in ISO as well, it looks better to me.

Ok, I stand corrected. Zang does look more pro-town so far this game then GreyICE.