This is real Kast.
Lie detector is an interesting claim. Obviously you need to share your results BEFORE the first lynch. More thoughts on this below but since it shouldn't hurt:
I am a townie. I am not mafia. I am not cult.
@Toast's Vanilla Claim-
Muffin wrote:I block Kast
You check tans
Toast->Nikanor
Vezok->Tans
Given Muffin's last post, that
should
be a clear on me. With Toast getting nillized, it's most likely Nik/KJ, unless both Vezok AND Tans are mafia together. (There also exists the possibility of BB or Hiplop, but both seem less likely especially given play and claims).
@KJ's Claim-
Firstly, your claim is not complete. Nikanor claimed bulletproof "with stipulations".
-Lie detector abilities are always questionable since most statements have subjective elements. They're also often misused or misleading since townies often make mistakes.
--Does your lie detector ability work with subjective statements?
--Does your lie detector ability work with complex statements (if possible, we should attempt to confirm multiple people)?
--Does your lie detector ability work with false statements that the target believes are true (ie. cop investigates GF and thus believes that the GF is town)?
-The possibility of a GF screwing with results and that you didn't consider that is a bit wtf?
--While a GF investigation immunity often works against a lie detector when checking straight up statements (ie. I am town, I am mafia, etc.), it often does NOT hold up for specifics like action claims, etc. Check with mod please.
--Have you considered possible questions to trick or get around GF ability?
Another point against a
day
lie detector claim is the lack of results from yesterday. This is somewhat mitigated since Nikanor got replaced for inactivity.
Given Nikanor is most likely candidate for vanillizer, the sudden 1-shot investigative claim out of the blue is seemingly the perfect claim for turning a lynch into a 1-for-1 trade. Also, given that Nik claimed 1-shot, then ideally he uses his power first, we lynch him, then depending on his flip follow his result or not.
-Best scenario he flips mafia so we ignore his results.
-Next best, he has a guilty so we lynch the guilty.
-Worst case, he has an innocent result (which may be prone to investigation immunity).
@BB-
Is there a reason you investigated Kast despite objecting to it in your final post of yesterday AND Muffin telling you to check Tans?
If you're going to assume your investigation result is false no matter what result you get, then why bother? (ie. you assumed you were redirected when you got inno on Muffin, you assumed you hit GF when you got inno on Vezok, you assume you got redirected OR hit GF when you got inno on Kast)
@Cult Flavor in Mod Scenes-
My brother didn't quite get my thoughts on it; he's right that I doubt there are any cult left. If there ARE any cult remaining, then I would guess BB was recruited by Ludi on N3. OS almost definitely blocked Toast; his "no action" claim was pretty obviously a cover for a JoAT roleblock. However, it's unclear whether Andy really blocked Ludi or not. Andy might have been genuinely telling the truth about blocking Kdub and his later claim to have blocked Ludi might have been an attempt to protect Ludi and push off the CR lynch until later. I'm leaning against that possibility since mafia should know whether Andy actually blocked Ludi or not, and if Ludi WASN'T blocked, then mafia would prolly have killed BB last night.
@Toast-
Did you get any messages/feedback on whether your JK worked or not?
@Hiplop-
Did you take any actions last night targeting Nikanor?
@Kill & Vanilla-
Muffin raised a good point yesterday; if this follows the same as BNM, then mafia are unlikely to be able to kill AND use a power on the same night. Even if Nikanor flips vanillizer, it would mean someone else who was unblocked last night did the kill.
Taking out Kast/Nik/Toast leaves 4 possibilities; BB, Hip, Tans, & Vezok. Of the 4, Vezok is the most probable mafia (if Tans is vanillizer, then this would also mean that Vezok is mafia).
My preference would be for Nik to check Tans. Then we lynch Nik. If Nik flips mafia, then Tans is cleared and we lynch Vezok. If Nik gets an innocent, then it might be better to lynch Vezok first since we don't learn as much from Nik's flip.
