Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER


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Post Post #3325 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:58 am

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This is me right now: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :?:

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I really, REALLY think Mafia has a redirecting role and has been using it on me.

Once again, I got an innocent result, which confuses me more than just a bit ^_^.

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Nobody vote anyone yet. Everyone post their thoughts/if they have anything important X_X.
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Post Post #3326 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:38 am

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...I was vanillized.....rly?
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Post Post #3327 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:18 am

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Nikanor - did u vanilla him? O.o

Nik or hiplop anything y'all can contribute will be helpful.

Toasty - who did you try to block?

This may seem an odd theory- is it possible mafia turn into black lanterns and get super powered like the white lanterns? Flavor of the death somewhat suggests this.
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Post Post #3328 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:21 am

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At mod. Can you make sure you post the role reveals consistently? IE my guess is Muffin should be the bright yellow/white lantern color.
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Post Post #3329 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:34 am

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Nikanor, as promised
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Post Post #3330 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:42 am

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Would vanilla happen after or before block? What if it was delayed? X.x

Toast if you're mafia and admit it I'll give you a free pass to catch the black lanterns >_<
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Post Post #3331 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:45 am

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I think ... Hip or Nikanor is some sort of solo black lantern and Kast or Vezok is godfather and tans or toast is goon. My percentage of being right is really really high cuz I said so XD.

I guess it's also possible both Kast and vezok are godfather AND black lantern o.O

And there's always the possibility of only one mafia left?! Who is a godfather and explains my lack of being roleblocked.
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Post Post #3332 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:26 am

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Did Nikanor claim yet? I will if he didn't. I have a pretty cool new ability.

And aren't all the Black Lanterns dead Blackberry? I haven't really been reading cause of classes, very little computer time, and this thread is 130 pages long so ya. Summary would be very nice and appreciative.
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Post Post #3333 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:06 am

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You can claim, anything useful XD.

The moderator's flavor and comments yesterday hint at a remaining black lantern, HOWEVER, the flavor this Day suggests the black lantern made the kill. Hence my theory that the mafia turned into black lanterns >_<.

It mentions a specific character, i.e., it's not a recruited person.

Also, I realized this game is title, "Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1"... does that mean there is a Part 2 to this Mafia game? I.e., a second Brightest Day Mafia game? In which case it's possible the flavor is just a hint to the next game in the series... O.o
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Post Post #3334 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:22 am

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Kast 2 here.

I discussed with Kast the mod's indication on flavor, and the possibility of a 3 man cult etc.

The most likely case is that this is flavor leading toward a Brightest Day Mafia, Part 2 game. First, from balance point of view, a 3 man cult that also night recruits is way too broken.

Second, we know that Ludi could only recruit nights 1 and 2, since we have two (Toasty AND Andrius) claimed blocks on Ludi. Even if Andy was lying, Toasty was not.

It is possible that mod pre-wrote some of the death scenes and flavor, and that there is a game mechanic for a recruit to inherit the CR recruiting ability, but it is nearly impossible for there to be a recruit due to all the blocking shenanigans. The only possibility I can see is if Andy blocked Toast instead of Ludi, and that Ludi recrutied night 3, in which case we have one recruit who may have inherited the recruiting ability.

Specifically at BB: the flavor for the night kill indicates it may be black, or it may be something faking black. I am guessing that the remaining mafia player(s) would try to push for there being a cult recruiter.

Toasty, please don't post whether or not you were able to successfully block Nikanor last night. I think Nik is the most suspicious player at this time. His refusal to claim or post much throughout the game, and his strong push for mislynches yesterday instead of taking out the obvCR is similar to what Andy was trying; distract the town from lynching CR so that we would spend more time on mislynches and wouldn't shift gears to killing mafia.

Killjoy, I would like a claim from you. Did you use your cool new ability last night?
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Post Post #3335 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:25 am

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Is this a sequel game? If the mod did flavor bits at the end for that game i could see you being right for the sequel to this game. Other than that I don't think it would be possible.

I am Hawk of the team Hawk and Dove. My normal ability is bulletproof and my white lantern ability is a day 1-shot Lie Detector. Who should I use it own?

Blackberry, you claimed cop right? I am going to follow your lead until I get my barrings straight and properly think x_x so much info

Edit: I don't like Kast's post. It looks pretentious <_<

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Post Post #3336 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:35 am

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Wait, you have a day 1-shot lie detector?

In other words, you could ask Toast and Tans if they are aligned with the mafia, or something like that, and they have to answer?

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Vezok, and Kast, are my two innocents still alive...

As I mentioned earlier, there is always the possibility I am being redirected, starting Night 2, all my results have been changed to 'Your Target'.

I personally (at this point) am leaning Toasty = mafia goon. And one of Vezok/Kast is a godfather.

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I can't wrap my head around the idea of Tans' claim being a mafia fake claim. >_< Unless I am missing something.

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Someone came up unrecruitable, whereas the mafia came up uncultable, yes?

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What if the Mafia got a 1-shot recruit? O.o Just an idea. This would explain Tans' claim as well as explain why his behavior has not been pro-town at all.

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Also, for anyone still suspect/doubtful of me, I will redirect you to the part where the Cult (who were pissed at mafia) said they knew, via their JOAT, that I was a Cop. They had a daykill, so they probably had a daycop (or maybe a day lie detector as Killjoy appears to have). Just saying >_<.

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If I got to choose, I'd say use your ability on Toasty saying that he is not aligned with the mafia or whatever and see what comes back. Or using it on Tans works too if several of you trust Toasty. o.O
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Post Post #3337 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:37 am

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I think I'm correct about the mafia having a recruit thing.

Hiplop, why are you lurking? You were just on but didn't post at all >_<.

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I am too scatter-brained right now. I'm crossing my fingers someone has something useful O_o
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Post Post #3338 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:47 am

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In post 3328, Blackberry wrote:At mod. Can you make sure you post the role reveals consistently? IE my guess is Muffin should be the bright yellow/white lantern color.

The color on Muffin's name is the way it is supposed to be. I will leave you to draw your own conclusions from this.
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Post Post #3339 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:50 am

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Oh, nevermind, only members of the Justice League (whatever that was) are the bright yellow ^_^.
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Post Post #3340 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:05 am

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I think that's how it works. I would rather use it on one of your innocents to see if your cop ability is being redirected but thats up to you

And I'll post you my picture to prove to you that I'm not mafia or cult

Kast, Vezokarka

Please state the following

"I am not aligned with the mafia"

Toastytoast and Tanslas please state

"I am not aligned with the mafia"

Prefer everyone to say that line so we can have the option to lie detect everyone

Is this a sequel? I'm not familiar with comics but I loved the green lantern movie (Ryan reynolds <3 dont judge)
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Post Post #3341 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:07 am

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killjoy: here's a summary of claims. BB can confirm or catch anything I missed.

Kast - Jade - Green -
Tracker
- Tracked Tans N1, Vanilla'd N2
Blackberry - Soranik Natu - Green - Mafia Cop - Investigated Frozen N1, Muffin N2, Vezok N3, ?Kast? N4
hiplop - ??? - White - Unrecruitable + OP WL Power
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Jailkeeper
- JK'ed Nik N1, OS N2, Ludi N3, ? Vanilla'd N4
vezokpiraka - Ice - Justice League - Delayer - OS N1, Kast N2, ??? N3, ??? N4
tanstalas - Larfleeze - Orange -
Power Stealer
- Stole Andy's power N1, Vanilla'd N2
Killjoy - ??? - White - Bulletproof + Lie detector - ???

Killjoy: If you think it is balanced for cult to start with 3 and also recruit at night, you're welcome to your own delusions. I don't think it's pretentious; I think it's the only sensible conclusion. Considering we pretty much single handed-ly forced the lynch on Ludi CR, I think this is justified.

I agree with BB's plan; I think we should test Tans. I don't think there is any likelihood of Toasty being mafia considering his claims. I would rather test the lie detection on Nik, but since it's his claim...

Also @BB: The only possible way for us to be mafia is if vezok and I are both mafia. Vezok claimed delay on us night 2. This would also require that collectively, Vezok and I are both godfathers with tracking ability and can both vanilla and kill and bypass roleblocks. That's too fantastical. More likely, Vezok is lying about delaying and is scum. Note who
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voting for Ludi or OS when we lynched them.

BTW BB, Ludi claimed you are town based on OS, but he also claimed OS blocked Toasty (to make the fake tracker result), and whether Toasty is mafia or town, he blocked OS on N2, so I don't see how he could have investigated you. My guess is:

N1 OS killed Mastin, but was delayed by Vezok, so the kill happened D2
N2 OS was blocked by Toasty.
N3 OS blocked Toasty.
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Post Post #3342 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:08 am

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Killjoy: are your results posted in thread, or do you receive them directly? Do you have to post your investigation in thread, or is that PM to the mod?
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Post Post #3343 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:16 am

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Pm. Eveyting is done by pm system

Kast say the line pplease

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Post Post #3344 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:17 am

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Typing fail

Meant everything and please

And I am Hawk in that chart
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Post Post #3345 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:17 am

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Also, can you catch all/multiple lies within a post, or only one? I haven't played with a lie detector before; I imagine we can get more useful information with more modal statements including role claims as well.
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Post Post #3346 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:20 am

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1 post and 1 sentence says my pm

Not really that useful since I can only get 1 post :/
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Post Post #3347 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:30 am

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Everyone say the sentence

I am not aligned with the mafia.

I am not aligned with the mafia.
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Post Post #3348 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:33 am

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killjoy, claim the PM you got just now.
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Post Post #3349 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:36 am

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thats not your role pm
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