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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:33 pm

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In post 2397, diddin wrote:Juls should die at night so we don't have to deal with that goddamn vengekill.


If we can hit scum tonight it shouldn't much matter about her kill.

Either way if we work under the assumptions that

Neighbors arent mafia
Masons arent mafia
RA isnt mafia

Thats five non-mafia ponies right there out of the soon to be eleven alive. We just need to wipe out the last six as efficiently as possible. We drop one tonight, Juls takes one with her tomorrow and we get rid of another following night should leave us with three non-mafia and two unclear ponies. Plus the whole FA + jmurph near for sure not being scum together can work to our advantage in the long run.

I still just have to question FA-scum on the basis of his kill. Yeah im sure most of us have seen some ponies make wierd kills as scum, but that one just leaves me scratching my head.
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:35 pm

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In post 2398, Juls wrote:Again, make q case. Don't PoE me, that is stupid. My play has been obvtown


People who say this are always fucking scum.

How is asking to INVESTIGATE A CLAIMED MASON obvtown? How is stealing a prize that we said would go to a crumbed mason obvtown?
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:39 pm

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I didn't say to investigate a mason. And I did not realize there was a plan.
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:48 pm

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@Spy: The mod told us we were neighborized by Jmurph. He had our character name in parenthesis, and had Jmurph's character role in parenthesis.
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:53 pm

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In post 2402, Juls wrote:I didn't say to investigate a mason. And I did not realize there was a plan.


Ok, I got you confused with FA. You're definitely not obvtown though.
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:57 pm

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In post 2404, diddin wrote:
In post 2402, Juls wrote:I didn't say to investigate a mason. And I did not realize there was a plan.


Ok, I got you confused with FA. You're definitely not obvtown though.

No I clearly am. I made one mistake. Look if we hit scum today and tonight fine. But if we come out tomorrow with only one scum down, we really need to examine the numbers.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:58 pm

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Yes, I was specifically told that FA was Woody. In order to have full disclosure, I was NOT told specifically that RA was Jessie, or vice-versa, ONLY that the neighborization had gone through. However, that could easily just have been a mistake on Mod's part.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:00 pm

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In post 2406, jmurph3 wrote:Yes, I was specifically told that FA was Woody. In order to have full disclosure, I was NOT told specifically that RA was Jessie, or vice-versa, ONLY that the neighborization had gone through. However, that could easily just have been a mistake on Mod's part.

Verify it with the mod please.

unvote.
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:24 pm

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I've PMed the mod.
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:59 pm

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I noted the same. My pm mentioned jmurph, not bullseye.
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:13 pm

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Vote Count 5-2


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kunkstar7
(7)- diddin, RandomActs, NanookTheWolf, Rainbowdash, Juls, jmurph3, kunkstar7,
NanookTheWolf
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PeregrineV
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petroleumjelly
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Not Voting (5)- Flavour Analysis, PeregrineV, petroleumjelly, Rhinox, SpyreX,





Why would a toy suicide like that? Evilness is generally a good reason.


kunkstar7, Emperor Zurg (Mafia Strongblocker) has been lynched Night 5.


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Deadline for night actions Sept. 22nd at 7pm EST.


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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:14 pm

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You all wake up feeling elated. So many unfun toys have bit the dust recently. But as with other mornings, we find a few littered bodies on the floor of Andy's room.

First you find PeregrineV. Creepy looking doll, cannot really tell if it's dead. It's not moving when we poke it, still looks quite menacing.

PeregrineV, Big Baby (Town Miller) killed Night 5!


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Also we see the body of Rainbowdash! It's another of those strange looking toy fellas! Although this one has the number 1 under his foot.



Rainbowdash, Alien #1 (Neighbor) killed Night 5



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It is now Day 6!

Vote Count 6-1


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Not Voting (9)- diddin, Flavour Analysis, jmurph3, Juls, NanookTheWolf, petroleumjelly, RandomActs, Rhinox, SpyreX

With 9 alive, it's 5 to a lynch.

Deadline is October 8th at 1pm EST.





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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:19 pm

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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:31 pm

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Mod - What is a strongblocker?


Can either use strongman ability or roleblocker ability in a given night.
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:37 pm

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Whatever it is I want one because that's a great name.

Today will be continuing with the status quo. NtW I think, by nature, is 'town'.

Juls I think today might be that day we lean upon your murderin' abilities:
Lynch you, you take out one of PJ/Rhinox. Probably PJ but not sure.
You scum or you hit scum, vig shoots one of the PR's. (yes, if you're scum you'll probably not oblidge etc, etc).
You town AND you hit town, vig shoots the remaining VT.

I'd like a few people to parse my plan and actions/etc whatevs.
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:49 pm

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Now is probably a good time to note that Mod did list myself and RA's roles in our QT as Bullseye and Jessie, respectively.

@Spyrex: I agree with your plan. The only thing that I might consider, based on the discussion that RA and I had last night, is maybe taking out Rhinox. Rhinox's claim was Barbie, and since things seem to be playing really to flavor thus far, the fact that Kunkstar claimed Ken made us think there might be a connection there.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:53 pm

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hi.

haven't forgotten I replaced in here. haven't read much of the thread at all so let me know if you need me to do anything and I'll start putting in effort. you all seem like you're on top of things without me though.

don't see a problem with spy's plan on the surface. distribution of scum theory seems sound in theory. If my death is necessary as a means to an end so be it, if you can't tell I haven't exactly vested much in this game yet to have a problem with that :P
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:55 pm

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In post 2415, jmurph3 wrote:Rhinox's claim was Barbie, and since things seem to be playing really to flavor thus far, the fact that Kunkstar claimed Ken made us think there might be a connection there.


don't have anything to say about that other than it'd be pretty stupid for scum to use related names like that as safe claims :shrug:
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:05 pm

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A Juls lynch is a lazy lynch, as far as I'm concerned. This game is already full of lazy lynches, and it sure hasn't worked out. I am still strongly in favor of a FlavourAnalysis lynch, but I won't be voting until we get RandomAct's result.
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:25 pm

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With the blocker apparently dead RA should have a result.
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:35 pm

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See, I've been thinking about this a bit more.

With how everything else has fell out, for FA OR Jmurph OR RA to be scum there's some serious shenanigans going on.

Serious shenanigans. With them collaborating how the mod opens the QT's that means we've got a scumgroup of actual villains + a hero that's a villain (and flavor being what it is, if any that would have been Buzz).

Which means I may have been wrong about my split. It may be as simple as "lynch all the vanillas, win".

Even though I've asked it I want all three of Woody, Jessie and Bullseye to say as close to verbatim again what happened with their QT's as possible.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:36 pm

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In post 2419, diddin wrote:With the blocker apparently dead RA should have a result.

No results from me, I'm afraid. Jessie's investigations were limited to 2, and those were used up even before I took on the role. I haven't revealed this because I was hoping the scum would waste a NK on me. It hasn't happened, obviously. But now that we're close to end game, and after consulting with jmurph last night, I thought it would be best that we were all clear about what assets we have on hand. Unfortunately investigations are no longer among those assets.
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:39 pm

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......

I dont like that much but the alternative is "Miller + GF + No Cop at all LULZ"

And, of course, the simple fact that you handed us scum at a juncture when that doesn't do much.

And, of course, the more important fact that it makes this neighbor business a little more stomachable.
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:04 pm

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In post 2418, petroleumjelly wrote:The vengekill ability gets stronger the longer it lives. And if she is Town as I suspect and scum are forced to kill her overnight in fear of the ability, then we are avoiding a mislynch in the first place.


Better than spy's plan right here. PJ brings up a good point - lynching juls just so she could vengekill
me or pj
someone seems kinda derpy when we could just lynch the someone juls would vengekill and force the scum to kill juls overnight if shes town - or if juls is still alive in lylo, lynch her then to vengekill then or if she's scum, PROFIT anyways.

In other news, without recalling anything else PJ has said ITT, +town points to him for making this observation.
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:10 pm

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What happened with the QTs is this:

In the PM confirming my neighboring of FA, which Mod sent to myself and to FA (i.e. we got the same PM), the Mod listed us as Bullseye and Woody. The Mod did not list these roles in the PM to me and RA; HOWEVER, I PMed him, and he noted that this was simply a mistake on his part, and thus he listed RA and my role as Jessie and Bullseye respectively in the first post in the QT.

I was thinking about the only 2 investigations from the cop, and it sort of makes sense if you think about the fact that both FA and Bobs' JOAT powers were also limited in number (it would have made more sense if cop had had 3 investigations, since that fits closer with the JOATs, but...).

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