Mini 1228: 80's Mafia: Everyone wins. (Mod error)

[haoala]

Yeah, my song is from 1983, let's blow a hole in this idea now.

Gah I also forgot that scum would say that too.

This is a vanillaless game, I honestly doubt there's gonna be a way to break it.

I thought that's precisely why a gamebreaking strategy is possible.

[Maruchan]

Yeah, my song is from 1983, let's blow a hole in this idea now.

Gah I also forgot that scum would say that too.

This is a vanillaless game, I honestly doubt there's gonna be a way to break it.

I thought that's precisely why a gamebreaking strategy is possible.

this at the second half.

[2birds1stone]

diddin, yes we need to lynch by the end of the day. We also, as you said, have five days to make a lynch. Yes, we need to hurry. No, we don't need to lynch in the next five minutes or lose the game. Your urgency seems somewhat disproportional.

Having said that, we seem to have hit brick wall in discussion; there simply isn't any way we're going to reach concensus at this rate, I think that someone's stalling the lynch, presumably scum. I say we all reread this thread and vote whoever we think is stalling the most. I should post my vote in the next ten minutes, but I may get kicked off the computer first, in which case I'll post tomorrow.

[Captain Corporal]

^That post is as town as can be.

I'm re-reading the thread as we speak.

[Captain Corporal]

Also, it depends what you mean by "stall". Haoala has stalled his lynch. Mego the same. Nik has been going crazy. Umbrage has been flying votes everywhere. Maru has been talking more about his plan more than anything else. There are a bunch of lurkers. Today's been confusing, what with the messed up pre-game. I'm going to stick with Haoala for now.

[benoni]

I don't like the way Umbrage is so pro-Maruchan. However, if Maruchan turns out wrong, Umbrage will just get lynched for it.

[benoni]

I really want to hang either diddin or Zajnet, but can't decide which one.

[Nikanor]

Unvote. Vote: Parabollocks.

Don't forget about that guy.

[Zajnet]

diddin as scum wouldn't claim 1989, he would claim something else, so that is null.

How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

By the way, someone can't just claim to have a gamebreaking strategy that requires us all to visit them and then not tell us what it is. If the scum can ruin it, they already will, and we need to know.

[Umbrage]

I don't like the way Umbrage is so pro-Maruchan. However, if Maruchan turns out wrong, Umbrage will just get lynched for it.

This is bullshit. Why the fuck would you blame me for a plan that I don't understand failing? Do you think Maruchan's scum? Do you think I'm scum? If not, shut your face and vote Mego.

[Maruchan]

I will change my votes once someone tells me that they agree trow's points were fallacies and nowhere near benign true, or he concedes to me. either or. until then he gets my vote.

[Maruchan]

diddin as scum wouldn't claim 1989, he would claim something else, so that is null.

How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

By the way, someone can't just claim to have a gamebreaking strategy that requires us all to visit them and then not tell us what it is. If the scum can ruin it, they already will, and we need to know.

well thats a nice gambit.

If DRK is scum, Maru is scum.
If DRK is town, Maru is null.

Good to know this. If I ever play a game against you again, and I am scum, I will use this gambit on a townie.

Its win-win.

[Maruchan]

diddin as scum wouldn't claim 1989, he would claim something else, so that is null.

How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

By the way, someone can't just claim to have a gamebreaking strategy that requires us all to visit them and then not tell us what it is. If the scum can ruin it, they already will, and we need to know.

They can't. This is why it is game-breaking.

The only way it can be ruined s if a role which I am 80% sure is IN this game, is not in this game. And if that is true, then tomorrow I will tell you it doesn't work, and I will claim if still asked. If I get roleblocked, it will take 1 extra day.

[Maruchan]

WOW I FAIL SO MISERABLY. sorry guys, one of those replies I typed from my phone and the other from a school computer and I didn't realize I was quoting the same post. -.-

[Umbrage]

SHUT UP. THE LESS INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE BETTER.

[Bogre]

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3415076]
How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.
[/quote]

If DRK is town, he would not have lied and made up a gambit on a random, otherwise that is trolling.

[Maruchan]

SHUT UP. THE LESS INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE BETTER.

If people were willing to blindly follow me (like you apparently are, which makes me think mafiaroleblocker?) then I wouldn't need to claim specifics, but they feel the need to question me, so I have to give more info.

[benoni]

This is bullshit. Why the fuck would you blame me for a plan that I don't understand failing?

You don't understand the plan, yet are 100% for it. Then if the plan succeeds you're like, yay for me, and if the plan fails you're like derp I didn't know. Explain why we should trust you.

[Umbrage]

If he told us what the plan is, the scum could interfere with it. The less we know, the better.

I'm not asking you to trust me, I'm asking you to trust Maruchan. I see no reason why we shouldn't.

[benoni]

You're dodging the question.

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT THIS PEOPLE.

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT MARUCHAN.

WE SHOULD TRUST MARUCHAN.

Or, you could win by following THE UMBRAGE AND MARUCHAN SUPER TOWNIE WIN MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is there still bullshit about years and claiming?

This one, no, and it makes no sense for DRK to lie. If you're not convinced, we can still lynch DRK. Then if she's town, we follow Maruchan's plan. It's a win-win scenario.

Zajnet, you are doing really useful things in this game.

NOW LET'S LYNCH MEGO AND HAOALA AND CAPTAIN CORPORAL AND WIN THIS GAME. BOOYAH.

Excuse me, why are there people voting against Maruchan's plan?

HE'S FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.

FoS: Captain Corporal, 2birds1stone

Yeah, but that'll mean an extra step. I want to win this game NOW.

1: Lynch Mego.
2: Maruchan does awesomeness.
3: Lynch haoala.
4: Maruchan and Umbrage combine their powers to create a force of epic town power that will destroy all remaining scum BOOYAH.

WHO'S WITH ME?

This is a chain of lies, yelling, and pushing to the effect of "go along with Maruchan" and "do what I say". Forget Maruchan. Forget whether Maruchan is trustworthy. Answer the question. If the Maru-plan fails, you don't think there'll be anything suspicious about you? That doesn't make any sense.

[benoni]

Oh, heck with it. Umbrage hasn't made sense in 20 pages. VOTE: Umbrage

[Maruchan]

I actually don't disagree with that vote so much. where is my vote now?

[Zajnet]

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3415076]
How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

If DRK is town, he would not have lied and made up a gambit on a random, otherwise that is trolling.[/quote]

It was a gambit that could have allowed Maru to make a massive scumslip.

If DRK would like to confirm that it was a gambit and that she doesn't really have mod confirmation of Maru, that would be great.

[Umbrage]

This is a chain of lies, yelling, and pushing to the effect of "go along with Maruchan" and "do what I say". Forget Maruchan. Forget whether Maruchan is trustworthy. Answer the question. If the Maru-plan fails, you don't think there'll be anything suspicious about you? That doesn't make any sense.

That is probably the biggest load of shit I've seen in a while.

Let's deal with the 'lies' first.

...

When have I lied? You don't say.

Now for the pushiness. I'm supporting confirmed town. Do you have any reason to doubt Maruchan is confirmed town? If not, then you should be on my side.

Finally, no, there's no reason to suspect me if the plan fails. Mainly because it isn't my plan. I don't know anything about it. But confirmed town is for it. Ergo, it is 100% better than any other plan.

You're trying to fight against the plan: why? Do you think Maruchan is scum? Because you're not saying that, and that is the only reason not to go along with this plan.

VOTE: benoni

Only scum would try and fight a potentially game-breaking plan created by confirmed town.

[2birds1stone]

Okay, I've gone through most of the thread, and I've also iso'd the lurkers. One of them stands out; not just due to a lack of posts, but due to a lack of information: Parabollocks. Only seven posts isn't inherently scummy, but when only two or three of those posts contain information, there's a problem.

In other news, Umbrage is looking really bad. Her intention may not have been to stall, but the confusion caused through her defense of Maru and her mass accusations is

really

holding this lynch up.

I think diddin is town, though a tad misguided. I have no read on Nik; he shares my suspicions of Parabollocks, though he may be bussing him. I like having his insanity around though, as distracting as it is, it throws rather messed up light on the situation.

Mego and haoala both stalled their lynches, however, many townies would do the same. I have no reads on either.

IMO, the most important scum today is the one we can actually agree on.

Unvote; Vote: Umbrage