Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

Blackberry · Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:51 am

FYI, Andrius is a cult recruit.

Nikanor is most-likely scum.

Blackberry · Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:52 am

*Nikanor is most likely Cult Recruiter.

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:56 am

See I thought the same about MR Sub, but his actions and the way lazy votes have found their way onto my wagon convinced me otherwise. I could still go for hiplop, yet no one wants to wagon there beside us, which is frustrating.

Plus, half the game only poke their head in here to maintain the status quo.

ToastyToast · Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:03 am

In post 2726, Blackberry wrote:*Nikanor is most likely Cult Recruiter.

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

Then how did he recruit nopoint?

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:10 am

vezok, I'd like a response.

Kdub · Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:34 am

Blackberry, tell me why you objectively can't be the recruiter.

I still am in favor of completing the mass claim as per my last post.

Blackberry · Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:17 am

In post 2730, Kdub wrote:Blackberry, tell me why you objectively can't be the recruiter.

I still am in favor of completing the mass claim as per my last post.

Because I'm an effing Cop. >_<

You think there's only a CULT COP and no MAFIA COP? That makes little sense IMO.

I don't know what objectively means exactly.

Also, from my behavior I think it's pretty evident I am a pro-town person because my thoughts/actions can't be faked.

I.e., the two reasons I believe I am pretty clear (my behavior, my necessary-role claim) are also the two reasons I think yall are absolute idiots for voting Mr. S (behavior) and CJ's position (necessary-role claim).

Blackberry · Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:29 am

In post 2728, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 2726, Blackberry wrote:*Nikanor is most likely Cult Recruiter.

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

Then how did he recruit nopoint?

Possibilities:

* Toasty is MAFIA and is LYING about who he roleblocked/jailkept in order to clear himself and Nikanor was not in fact jailkept N1. (lol, I realize this is you so you have to claim this isn't correct, but you asked the question)
* The Doctor protected the suicided lover, or the fact that it's a suicide, happens AFTER the recruit and nopoint was recruited Night 2.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:05 am

In post 2729, Magister Ludi wrote:vezok, I'd like a response.

I think you are the likeliest CR.

The way you even shouted it's L-1 made me feel you were scum trying to just get out. But not scum scum. Scum CR.

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:09 am

Why am I likeliest CR? In your mind.

Do you think scum or town would more likely announce they were at L-1 after no vote count for a few pages?

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:10 am

So if I didn't announce L-1 and you hammered unknowingly and I flipped town that would have been better?

Andrius · Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:20 am

In post 2725, Blackberry wrote:FYI, Andrius is a cult recruit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

CR would have to be a TWAT to recruit me. Seriously, does anyone here NOT know how much I dislike non-town roles? Especially in borked games like this one? Anyone remember BNM? K THOUGHT SO.

Anywho, we've also got Kdub here to shoot whoever isn't lynched, and the OLC can cover blocking them in the meantime.
How about this:
LYNCH SUBLIMINAL
If he flip CR, great. Problem solved.
IF he doesn't then Kdub shoots CJ, OLC blocks CJ and Nikanor.
That way we're good with EVERYONE'S top choices set.

Oversoul · Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:37 am

I like Andrius's plan, just make sure that all of your are on atleast one other person.

Subliminal, I don't understand why you haven't fullclaimed yet other than "anticult" power. Every power can be considered "anticult" unless specifically designed to fight the cult like Cult Cop or Cult Doctor (WLC's flip pretty much destroyed my interest in this game... really killed all of the confidence I had).

Kast, I can see why you are suspicious given my interaction with WLC and after his flip, but please hear me out. My role PM does mention something about having the power to talk to dead sea life because of my time as a Black Lantern in Blackest Night. Flavorly, I was resurrected and the sight of my return + Star Sapphire's power turned Mera back into a normal superhero (she was a Red Lantern angry at my death I believe). I cannot be the CR because of actions that have already been confirmed. From a flavor standpoint, I also cannot be the CR because I turn into an elemental needed by the Entity.

I dislike the play from both of the players that are in danger of being lynched. If the one we lynch does not flip as the CR, please at least one person roleblock the other one as that basically confirms them as the CR.

Andrius · Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:42 am

os wrote:I also cannot be the CR because I turn into an elemental needed by the Entity.

I would pretend I know what's going on.
But I don't.

Yeah, the plan is good. Lynch Subliminal.
A: HE FLIPS NON-CULT RECRUITER. BLOCK AND KILL LUDI. ALSO BLOCK NIKANOR.
B: HE FLIPS CULT RECRUITER. Back to the regularly scheduled program.

CAN WE HAS AGREEMENT?

Oversoul · Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:46 am

In post 2738, Andrius wrote:
os wrote:I also cannot be the CR because I turn into an elemental needed by the Entity.

I would pretend I know what's going on.
But I don't.

Yeah, the plan is good. Lynch Subliminal.
A: HE FLIPS NON-CULT RECRUITER. BLOCK AND KILL LUDI. ALSO BLOCK NIKANOR.
B: HE FLIPS CULT RECRUITER. Back to the regularly scheduled program.

CAN WE HAS AGREEMENT?

Ok I see the confusion.

I don't turn into an elemental now. Subliminal's gambit confirms that the Entity is not present in this game. Aquaman likely will turn into an elemental in Brightest Day Part 2. I was giving my opinion from the flavor I have read because WLC's primary reason for thinking of me as the CR was based on flavor in his role pm.

Mr Subliminal · Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:23 am

In post 2736, Andrius wrote:
Anywho, we've also got Kdub here to shoot whoever isn't lynched, and the OLC can cover blocking them in the meantime.

Andrius

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

FUCKING READ

Kdub had a *one-shot* Night-kill, which was used.

Srsly, it's fucking impossible to even take you seriously when you do this shit.

Andrius wrote:OLC blocks CJ and Nikanor.

Nikanor is not CR. hiplop is not CR. zMuffinMan is not CR. If it's not Ludi, then it's Kast or Toasty, and it's looking less and less likely that it's Kast.

Oversoul wrote:Subliminal, I don't understand why you haven't fullclaimed yet other than "anticult" power. Every power can be considered "anticult" unless specifically designed to fight the cult like Cult Cop or Cult Doctor (WLC's flip pretty much destroyed my interest in this game... really killed all of the confidence I had).

Our power is specifically designed to fight the cult like Cult Cop or Cult Doctor. That's why we said it's entirely, 100% anticult, as in, literally does nothing if there is no cult in the game and literally has no effect on anything besides the cult.

Spoiler: For Blackberry

Seriously, we see what you're doing here, but we simply find it orders of magnitude less likely for someone besides Ludi to be CR. Whereas Ludi is all, "Guiz, it's got to be Subliminal, he's fakeclaiming WL" and if we're lynched, tomorrow it'll be "Guiz, it's got to be hiplop, he's fakeclaiming WL" and God forbid he lives after that, it'll be "Guiz, it's got to be Nikanor, he's fakeclaiming WL". Why? Because Ludi needs the WLs dead.

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:45 am

No. Your vote has been only on me today. I outlined several players who I thought were mostly likely cult recruiter. Your posts are full of so much misrepresentation.

Berry, I need your vote.
Oversoul too.
Vezok, respond please

Magua · Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:48 am

In post 2741, Magister Ludi wrote:No. Your vote has been only on me today.

I could explain what "find it orders of magnitude less likely for someone besides Ludi to be CR" means, but I doubt it would help.

Magister Ludi wrote:I outlined several players who I thought were mostly likely cult recruiter. Your posts are full of so much misrepresentation.

Yes, hiplop. Like I said.

Mr Subliminal · Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:49 am

In post 2742, Magua wrote:
In post 2741, Magister Ludi wrote:No. Your vote has been only on me today.

I could explain what "find it orders of magnitude less likely for someone besides Ludi to be CR" means, but I doubt it would help.

Magister Ludi wrote:I outlined several players who I thought were mostly likely cult recruiter. Your posts are full of so much misrepresentation.

Yes, hiplop. Like I said.

This person speaks the truth and should be listened to.

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:51 am

Yeah, basically you've tunneled on me all day and now you're calling me out for focusing on you right now.

Kdub · Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:24 am

Guys.

Mass claim.

Why are we not finishing it?

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:26 am

Scum of all sorts want to lynch me quickly, it appears.

Kast · Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:31 am

kast2 here.

If WL are not confirmed CR by role info, then we are much more confirmed non CR than any of them.

kdub: We are confirmed tracker. Unless CR can track and recruit, and on the same night, we are confirmed non CR.

If CJ/Ludi flips CR, trackers should consider blocking kdub in case he is SK.

OS: I agree that you are unlikely CR. I don't agree that you are confirmed; this will depend on the answers to Vezok's questions to the mod, and whether vezok is telling the truth. As Kast pointed out, it is possible Vezok is lying, and if you ARE CR, you wouldn't have any reason to CC/disprove Vezok if his fake claim clears you; in fact it might give you some incentive to keep him alive or even recruit him. That said, I find it unlikely both Vezok is lying and you are CR given whats happened so far.

Mr. S. I don't see why you are resisting claiming. You have continued to lose credibility in my opinion nearly all day today. Part of it may be OMGUS for your nonsensical insistence on keeping me at 1 or 2 on your list, but certainly doesn't help that you have ceased to present rational arguments and are taking a "because I said so" approach to everything.

unvote

to prevent a hammer.

Blackberry · Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:34 am

In post 2745, Kdub wrote:Guys.

Mass claim.

Why are we not finishing it?

Especially with hiplop and Nikanor.

Kdub · Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:48 am

Kast wrote:kdub: We are confirmed tracker. Unless CR can track and recruit, and on the same night, we are confirmed non CR.

Fair enough, the vanillaizing thing already made me doubt you as a recruiter, but that plus the tracker thing does appear to confirm it.

In post 2747, Kast wrote:If CJ/Ludi flips CR, trackers should consider blocking kdub in case he is SK.

If I am an SK, then by claiming that my vig was one-shot, I basically can't kill anymore except in a 3/4-player endgame scenario or else I will expose myself. Since I wouldn't want to do that if I were an SK, it stands to reason that I would not take an action tonight anyway even if I had one.

Blackberry wrote:Especially with hiplop and Nikanor.

Nikanor is confirmed to not be the recruiter, but he should still claim with everyone else.