Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Mr Subliminal]

Should I claim the PM? I know I SHOULD be the one to do it, but should I do it right now?

No.

[Mr Subliminal]

Wait! Inhim accounts for 1 kill each night which means there's only 1 mafia factiOn most likely!! :-O

Hello, welcome to the game.

[Magister Ludi]

You yourself have acknowledged that scum are most likely telling the truth about their roles. Unless your claimed rolecop ability gives alignment as well as role, the only thing it'd be useful for is finding the CR (or, perhaps, to verify that someone else isn't the CR).

Probably most are, but catching out fakeclaims, confirming town, and finding the cult recruiter are very powerful right now. Not sure what you're talking about.

I felt that your objections to the GhostWriter wagon were disingenuous and I don't feel you've been playing as pro-town as you

Thats bullcrap. If I was some anti town not aligned with Ghostwriter, I would have no problem seeing him lynched and just skating through the day. And provide examples for your second points. You can't just say I haven't been playing pro-town and leave it at that.

None. Is this a problem?

Yeah, because you're acting like you're the master of balance and setups, and have thus decreed and based your entire case on the fact that my role doesn't fit in the game, when you actually have no idea what you're talking about. You're talking up a crap point because it's all you have.

Like, why not protect Friend, who was the one vouching for NPIAU?

Why not protect nopoint, who was being vouched for by friend? Notice how nopoint wasn't really reciprocating the same certitude.

Did Ludi claim which type of role cop he is? Like does he see names+roles or just names or just roles or what?

no names, just roles.

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Why is Mr Sub fishing for a modkill here? What if oversoul doesn't get modkilled? Why aren't you commenting on hiplop, or answering my question about why you said this:

Because he's confirmed non-CR, non-scum.

[Mr Subliminal]

Why is Mr Sub fishing for a modkill here?

That's some nice Blackberry-level conspiracy-shit.

Oh, wait.

Or do you have a problem with the plan being outlined? Because if you do,

I'm

we're all ears. Otherwise, mudslinging is yawn.

What if oversoul doesn't get modkilled?

Then, working plan is:

- Lynch Kast
- ToastyToast jailkeeps you (this is the same)
- vezokpiraka delays Andrius
- Oversoul tracks vezokpiraka

Why aren't you commenting on hiplop, or answering my question about why you said this:

What part of "non-CR, non-mafia" do you find as not being "commenting"?

As to the why: because we're capable of reading.

[Mr Subliminal]

Actually, Oversoul should track Toasty, not vezokpiraka, because we're pretty goddamn certain vezok is town.

[Nikanor]

i think that the cult recruiter is able to predict who people will target
trololol

[Mr Subliminal]

i think that the cult recruiter is able to predict who people will target
trololol

Nikanor, we'll be slightly less sarcastic with you because we know that at least you started out town, but if you can't be goddamn helpful, then please, for the love of

Christ

Oa, shut the fuck up.

kthx.

[Nikanor]

YOU CAN't RESISTE LE CHAT

[M1gemini]

This is kast2. Just got back from a 2 day, 12 mile backpacking trip and read through new posts. My Internet is down Til wednesday so posting from my iPad. Don't have kast's acct access on here.

Mr. S wtf are you trying to pull? I confirmed tans targeting Andy before tans ever posted in D2. Quit trying to ignore or gloss that over to force your skewed and singleminded theory. I swear you're as bad as BB. Read my first post of D2. Take the first capital letter of every sentence. You get my hard breadcrumb. I'm JADE, green lantern tracker. I learned Andy was targeted by Tans.

The letters:

J A T
A N A
D D N
E Y S

So unless you think CR can also track N1 or that I'd be so ballsy as to put a fucking tracker result claim in the same post I put my name breadcrumb, you're off base.

I'm most suspicious of CJ, though OS's claimed results do not match what mod told us we would get if blocked (or what we did get N2 for that matter).

Mod implied we wouldn't get any result if we were traditionally role blocked.

Also, by NAR, I doubt we'd get results from a delayed N2 action due to vanilla, but since mod won't answer clearly, I can't say. Vezok or the vanillizer should know best.

I strongly believe in him/new guys claim as that is what cast and I suspected, although we suspected a typical miller/vig.

Apologies for any dyac. Tried to catch them all but I'm exhausted and annoyed and hate comcast right now.

[M1gemini]

Post 821 btw.

[Nikanor]

inb4 modkill of SOMEONE
OMG PIZZA IS EADY WTF
omg th3ere's a cat on my back

[Mr Subliminal]

We're assuming you're claiming non-WL, which is weird because Jade is one of the 12.
And she stopped being a Green Lantern LONG before Brightest Day.
Any flavor justification of being a Tracker?

[zMuffinMan]

We're assuming you're claiming non-WL, which is weird because Jade is one of the 12.

Well, OS claimed Aquaman and he isn't a WL from what he's claimed. Like with WLC, I think it's best not to look too much at flavour.

OS's claimed results do not match what mod told us we would get if blocked (or what we did get N2 for that matter).

OS's claimed result (that his action "did not succeed") is exactly what I got N1, although the mod refuses to elaborate on what exactly "not succeeding" means.

[zMuffinMan]

@CJ,

You're overestimating how useful a rolecop ability is in this game, but that just makes me think it's a fake-claim to buy you time.

Your opposition to the GW wagon was really, really weak. Summed up, you basically said you think it looks like he's a town PR and the wagon was scum-infested, but your attempts to derail it (if you really believed it) were almost non-existent, except for saying that Peregrine was a good lynch. You basically

did

skate through the day...

As for why the rest of your play hasn't been pro-town, that would be because... it simply hasn't been? For example, you started D1 attacking Ooba because he was apparently cult hunting and this is what mafia do... Which I pointed out is a contradiction in itself, because mafia-hunting is exactly what cult would do, by your own logic... Apok is about the only wagon you've been on for a decent reason.

btw, there's absolutely no way I'm lynching hiplop today, even if he is a bag full of derp. The closest I'd come to thinking about lynching a claimed WL is subliminal, and even then, I'm hesitant because I'm really not seeing him as CR and, if he really is CR, there's virtually no chance he recruited last night.

Pretty much everyone else is eliminated because of N1 actions. BB isn't, but he has a verifiable claim and I'm ruling him out for other reasons as well (not reading him as CR, interactions with npiau didn't read like cult-cult interactions). hiplop and subliminal technically aren't but again, not reading them as CR.

You are by far the most viable choice for the lynch today.

[Andrius]

Ok what the hell is going on.
I thought we had a list of CRs and we were killing them with fire.

inKdub is confirmable via shooting people. That's easy. PGO part is EHHHH but we're not looking for mafia we're looking for CR.
I'm inclined to believe BB is town because I simply don't see the mods giving the CR a "Mafia Cop" fakeclaim. (Which is what I would have done, but) and they DO have a history of giving out shit fakeclaims.
So that leaves Subliminal and CJ IIRC.
Hang on self-ISO for something BRB.

[tanstalas]

*Tinfoil hat time*

What if the CR this time had a 1 shot PGO instead of being BP this time around?

/tinfoil

[Andrius]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]

p.s. Oversoul, Watcher is always more powerful than Tracker. Tracker you've got to pick the correct person killing someone; Watcher you watch the likely NK, BOOM. Got their killer on vidscreen.

Either Nik's been drunk or lurkylurky prob. cult. But CJ's also tapered off lately.

I say we lynch from the bolded names. If it still holds that all WLC members are confirmed non-cult to each other then we're set. tans and I are confirmed non-CR to each other, Toast is confirmed as blocking MINUS SHENANIGANS WITH OVERSOUL OFC.

SUPERPLAN:
1) NO ONE TOUCH OVERSOUL. He needs to Track a claimed PR...
Oh hey.
This game's breakable, remember?
Somehow the game having two trackers seems a bit off.
One's likely scum.
ANYWHO.

So I'm not really liking the Doc --> RoleCop deal but IM NOT SURE if that's CR claiming CRAZY SHIT to save himself or Recruitee trying to stick around.
I'd be much more confident in a Subliminal lynch at this point.

If my list is wrong ANYWHERE tell me.
Otherwise I see no other course of action than hanging CJ or Subliminal.

Vote: Subliminal

predit: tans, he'd still die. Being PGO doesn't mean a kill against you doesn't go through. You just take the sorry bastard with you.
And also, what are you saying? That inKdub_Vig isn't the Vig? Because his shots are fairly confirmable.

[Andrius]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC, Delayer
- Nikanor - WLC, ???
- zMuffinMan - WLC, ???
- hiplop - WLC, ???

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC, Power Copier
- Andrius - OLC, RB
- ToastyToast - OLC,

JK

Untargettablizer

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]

[tanstalas]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]

p.s. Oversoul, Watcher is always more powerful than Tracker. Tracker you've got to pick the correct person killing someone; Watcher you watch the likely NK, BOOM. Got their killer on vidscreen.

Either Nik's been drunk or lurkylurky prob. cult. But CJ's also tapered off lately.

I say we lynch from the bolded names. If it still holds that all WLC members are confirmed non-cult to each other then we're set. tans and I are confirmed non-CR to each other, Toast is confirmed as blocking MINUS SHENANIGANS WITH OVERSOUL OFC.

SUPERPLAN:
1) NO ONE TOUCH OVERSOUL. He needs to Track a claimed PR...
Oh hey.
This game's breakable, remember?
Somehow the game having two trackers seems a bit off.
One's likely scum.
ANYWHO.

So I'm not really liking the Doc --> RoleCop deal but IM NOT SURE if that's CR claiming CRAZY SHIT to save himself or Recruitee trying to stick around.
I'd be much more confident in a Subliminal lynch at this point.

If my list is wrong ANYWHERE tell me.
Otherwise I see no other course of action than hanging CJ or Subliminal.

Vote: Subliminal

predit: tans, he'd still die. Being PGO doesn't mean a kill against you doesn't go through. You just take the sorry bastard with you.
And also, what are you saying? That inKdub_Vig isn't the Vig? Because his shots are fairly confirmable.

You mean 'shot' singular, not shots plural.

Dunno, I think maybe our cult cop investigated him N1, if I was a cult cop the miller claim would have been near the top of my list, though - would make sense with him getting vig powers n2

[tanstalas]

I swear to god though, if CR also has an active power I will reach through the internet and punch Oa in the nads

[Andrius]

I swear to god though, if CR also has an active power I will reach through the internet and punch Oa in the nads

I

would have given him one.
Namely JK- let's say this:
CR recruits someone, but also RB's them and Protects them.

A good deal for him, no?
Ensuring his recruit survives, while blocking their action from beginning.
And a nice legit claim.

Not saying its Toast, but its a good claim.

OH.
AND DONT FORGET HE MAKES PEOPLE UNTARGETTABLE.
Pretty much a Doctor to protect the cult too.
HMMM

[Andrius]

inKdub only had one vig shot?!?

[Magister Ludi]

meh, its always possible the CR recruited someone night zero or two, and they switched claims/whatever so the CR could have something to claim to make themselves look non recruiter.

Andrius, when was it said all the white lanterns were confirmed non-cult to eachother?

[Mr Subliminal]

We're a WL, vezok isn't.

[Mr Subliminal]

Ludi, we already had this conversation...