Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Blackberry]

My question goes to all our outted WLs. One of the discharged, or one of the 12?

Gambit or no gambit doesn't really matter. Toog is scum.
But I thought you guys were White Lanterns, not Leaguers? You both?

In this post Mr. S you make it sound like you didn't get the PM. Is this correct?

...

I think we should look into who got the PM and who didn't get a PM that is a 'WL'.

If every person who got a PM had already hinted/claimed White Lantern, yet not all the White Lanterns got the PM, this would tell me it was sent by someone (the CR) to f#ck with people and clear themselves *eyes Nikanor*.

[zMuffinMan]

Why are we mass claiming? The last time town mass claimed, in Succession Mafia 2, led directly to a cult victory.

Wow.

You are so very, very helpful.

Given your list of possible CRs consists of 3/5 people who haven't full-claimed (hiplop, subliminal, me), and a majority of the rest of the game have already full-claimed or mostly claimed their roles, what are you suggesting we do?

I think you're suggesting that we lynch white lanterns + miller one by one? Because that makes a fuckton of sense and is a very pro-town idea. No, really... ... ...

But since most of your suspects have not claimed, and pretty much all of your non-suspects have already full-claimed or mostly claimed, why are you against a mass claim?

Also, a lot of your recent posts make absolutely no sense for other reasons.

Well, I consider nopoint town based on two things, friends complete insistence on him being town, and how I thought his play was at the time (pretty town). Looking back on it in hindsight, there are differences that can be spotted when actually looking for them carefully.

So when you protected him (N2), why did you not realise that his D2 play was not actually "pretty town" (other than his flip, nothing has changed since then)? And if you thought he was town based on friend's insistence that he was town, then why did you not protect, oh i dunno.... FRIEND instead?

meh, I don't think you can just wave your hands and go "these players are not cult recruiter" based on a claim especially when considering it is pretty plausible the cult recruiter is either hiplop, sub, toasty, inhim or zmuffin.

So, tell me, why are you ruling out the people you're ruling out, if not based mostly on their claims?

inHim name-claimed? Where is this?

Somewhere in his ISO, I'd assume. It's not particularly long, surely you can take the time to check. I'll help you out, though...

Guy Gardner.

I disagree, vanilla should go last. Obviously CR can't lose their powers, so why claim first?

Because, 1) They've already claimed their roles, basically.... and 2) I don't necessarily believe both of them are VTs along with CJ having a new ring....

Popcorn is probably easier and saves a whole lot of fuss, whatever.

No. Our flavor mentions our ring initially, as the power of hope working to enhance the power of the other corps, giving them an 'unbreakable shield'. Our ring has since changed color, with the ability to 'search peoples hearts'.

So yeah, we're now part of the orange lantern corps.

So your ability description includes flavour?

I think the CULT RECRUITER sent it to you guys to f#ck with all of you and confirm himself/herself as WL.

Not to mention, Nikanor at first pretends not to be WL, then he claims WL.

[/quote="BB"]Not to mention, why would the mod send a message in the middle of the day?[/quote]

If we continue with the mass claim, I'll include what the PM was about when I get around to claiming.

In this post Mr. S you make it sound like you didn't get the PM. Is this correct?

You're also incorrect about this.

If every person who got a PM had already hinted/claimed White Lantern, yet not all the White Lanterns got the PM, this would tell me it was sent by someone (the CR) to f#ck with people and clear themselves *eyes Nikanor*.

No.

[zMuffinMan]

note: the second quote makes a lot of sense when you realise that not all white lanterns are part of the justice league. Also, I

think

vezok claimed justice league, but he is certainly not a white lantern.

[zMuffinMan]

Actually, I really need to look at vezok properly.

Noting this for now.

[Andrius]

BB just face it we're not part of the cool kids club.

[Andrius]

OMG u gusuy are mean to mean I am the sexy one that ryan reynaolds likes i swearsssssss it. but i have to go to sleep cuz of scool. and i need to pee . nbut i have a picture and its of te girl but she's ugllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. lkie why did dana pick that photo

get the fuck off no one wants to hear you drunk.

[zMuffinMan]

I could just claim now and popcorn to someone if that's easiest. Because my claim is probably the most interesting, given what's already been claimed. And it would also help in clarifying some stuff.

[zMuffinMan]

This game would be so much better if I wasn't asleep when you were all posting, and vice versa.

[Kast]

This is KAst2: I trying to skim. FYI I have no internet at home and haven't been able to read since Wednesday afternoon due to my roommate moving out and taking his cable modem but Comcast refusing to allow us to activate a new model until the service contract expires (should be expired today, so should be able to get net setup tonight or tomorrow morning). Will try to catch up when I can but was out of the office at work yesterday so have a lot of stuff to catch up on.

[hiplop]

heh. BB you're going to slap yourself when we claim what the PM said

[ToastyToast]

OMG u gusuy are mean to mean I am the sexy one that ryan reynaolds likes i swearsssssss it. but i have to go to sleep cuz of scool. and i need to pee . nbut i have a picture and its of te girl but she's ugllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. lkie why did dana pick that photo

get the fuck off no one wants to hear you drunk.

<3........

[Kast]

CR won't recruit me because I'm a high-profile target for mafia kills on subsequent nights. If I die the following night it would be revealed I was recruited and then yall will know who CR is.

Not an idiot >=(.

You idiot. If inhim is NOT CR, then he really is miller or mafia. Then CR can recruit you, he tell you to clear inhim, and when mafia kills you and you flip cult, town mislynches inhim thinking in was inhim as CR. Your "safety"/"best" case here also screws town.

Also, I'm fine with mass claim in either Muffin's order or in some other. Not sure about Kast, but I don't think he'll have a problem with it either.

Muffin, thanks for hte point on inhim. I must have missed his claim, and I was strongly suspecting different name/flavor based on his play/suspicion list. I will have to re-read him.

Also, the original claim that the PM went to justice league masons and confirmed them as non cult. His specific claim was later admitted to be a gambit, with the implication that there was a WL specific PM. The fact that Mr. S. assumed PM receivers were WL rather than Justice League implies either he didn't read at all, or more likely, that he assumed the PM masonry was WL related due to also receiving the PM. I think this fairly solidly identifies Mr. S as being WL as per his claim.

Also, WTF is up with Nik? He comes back right after WLC is lynched, and berates the town, yet he was voting WLC and attacking him, and was also the first person to criticize the "Anti-Cult Doctor" wording. Is he really prone to going away for 2-3 days and completely forgettting/changing his opinions?

[Blackberry]

* Cult want to build up their numbers without having their members get killed off so they can win faster.

* Recruiting me, I will likely not last long, so they have no reason to do so.

* Not to mention, they're not going to recruit me JUST so they can get ONE lynch out of inHim.

[tanstalas]

@Tans

- What is your role ability called exactly?

Mafia Copier

?

@Mod - Can I answer this?

(Already got in trouble once for quoting something in my role PM)

[The Book of Oa]

Votecount 3.2.2

Candle Jack (3) - zMuffinMan, tanstalas, Kast
Mr Subliminal (2) - Andrius, Oversoul
hiplop (2) - Candle Jack, Blackberry
ToastyToast (1) - Nikanor


Not Voting (5) - hiplop, Mr Subliminal, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, inHimshallibe


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.

Deadline for the second lynch expires in (expired on 2011-09-15 06:15:00)

V/LAs:

vezokpiraka: 08/31 - 09/03

[The Book of Oa]

Kdub replaces inHimshallibe effective immediately.

[hiplop]

sup kdub

[Kdub]

I'm here, it will probably take me a couple days to catch up.

[zMuffinMan]

claim kdub.

[hiplop]

yeah, claim right away

[Oversoul]

What happened to the activity of this game...?

Kdub, claim, and then give your opinion on Candle Jack and the White Lantern "masonry".

My mood is totally buzzkilled for this game because I was so certain in WLC being CR.

[Candle Jack]

also look at d1 on vezok, and the subliminal ENTITY claim. Its pretty obvious I am indeed WL

It seems the most obvious/probable thing to me is that you were provided a white lantern fakeclaim, and can't figure out why people are suspecting you despite it. This wagon isn't going away because you pronounce yourself 'must be white lantern' over and over.

I claimed nonrecruitable, then went on V/LA ._. , thats why i "didnt do much"

it wasnt throwaway at all? it was the only thing in the post...

Yeah, and not doing much is a pretty big cult recruiter tell. Sliding through with not much suspicion and just surviving makes a lot of sense as cult recruiter, don't appear too suspicious, but also don't appear really overly town either.

And exactly, that's why it was a throwaway fakeclaim. Muffinman brings it up, and you, seeing that, decide to either add that onto your claim already almost like "yeah i'm unrecruitable too, just remembered", or it was provided already to you and you decided then was an opportune time to claim it. Its such a bad claim because there is no reason to claim unrecruitable. If you are, you know it yourself already. You want to make cult waste a potential recruit by hitting an unrecruitable player. Claiming unrecruitable in a cult game, and in this case in particular, looked like an effort to claim a role that town would be very wary of lynching, in an effort to, well, not get lynched.

Claiming at that point was definitely out of place, looks like a last second fakeclaim, and was a claim so that you wouldn't be lynched or have suspicion on you. Plus, claiming unrecruitable isn't provable at all, so you wouldn't have to worry about anyone calling you out on it (a la being tracked somewhere you said you weren't, etc.)

I think you're suggesting that we lynch white lanterns + miller one by one? Because that makes a fuckton of sense and is a very pro-town idea. No, really... ... ...

I'm actually suggesting we lynch those players I think most likely to flip cult recruiter, one by one, regardless of what they are or claim to be. That is pro-town.

But since most of your suspects have not claimed, and pretty much all of your non-suspects have already full-claimed or mostly claimed, why are you against a mass claim?

We only have one lynch. Forcing someone into claiming vig or similiar now is pretty anti-town, we want to keep cult as much as possible in the dark about what roles town has. Role means nothing when someone can be recruited, and by out all the roles it allows cult to play around the power roles. Seriously, go read succession 2 mafia, where town mass claimed and cult used that to win the game. It's exactly what

should not

happen here.

What happened to the activity of this game...?

A few votes on hiplop, and a lot of drop in activity it seems. Seems people are hoping the suspicion goes away here.

[Nikanor]

This hiplop wagon is really terrible. He's a bloody white lantern. He isn't cult leader.
Is Toasty not being lynched any more for some reason? Did he claim mason?

[Magister Ludi]

huh? I think there's the largest chance in the game he's going to flip cult leader now that I've actually reread him.

[zMuffinMan]

That's because you're clueless or scum. Soooooooo