Open 319: Jungle Republic - Day 5: Calamity *GAME OVER*

Thor665 · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:21 pm

@fitz - you're claiming I'm scum because I had a decent wagon run up on me and the wolves didn't kill me? This makes sense in your head?

Vote: Deity Kabuto

I'm still thinking Josh is town.

havingfitz · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:03 pm

Thor665 wrote:@fitz - you're claiming I'm scum because I had a decent wagon run up on me and the wolves didn't kill me? This makes sense in your head?

Vote: Deity Kabuto

I'm still thinking Josh is town.

I'm claiming your scum because of the points I raised (or reiterated) regarding your D1 actions. The fact that despite your D1 actions and associated suspicions you managed to avoid getting lynched in what turned out to be a reversal of tide from you to BF seems too lucky. If you were town I think 5 scum wanting a mislynch plus one or two misguided townmates would have been easy to obtain. Instead...you are still here and now you are voting DK who has been almost non-existent (iirc) on site the last week+. And the last comment I can see where you open up the possibility of DK being scum is here. And that's based on PoE as far as I can tell. Do you have a case on DK? IMO you have placed more suspicion on your champion CMPunk than DK. Why not vote CM? He falls into your PoE from the post I linked back to as well. So that would be another reason to suspect you. Going for the easy, absent (aka defenseless) target.

Thor665 · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:25 pm

fitz...the scum are not aligned in this game.
Plus, it was hardly a surprising and shocking switch of events that got blindfaeth lynched over me - he was a strong contender wagon for the entire run of the day.

My case on DK is PoE.
CM is a less optimal lynch because the three person set he was in had a scum flip from it. The other has not yet and is down to a two person set - you really think there is no scum there? I would wager hefty money on it right now, and I think DK looks worse than Don Josh because I've tagged town tells from the latter and not so much the former.

Thor665 · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:26 pm

Oh, and fitz, I'm not sure if you're better than this

CMPunk · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:25 am

v/la for weekend as normal, sorry

DonJosh · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:15 am

TheFool was scum? Wow, who would have guessed. /sarcasm

Can we PLEASE lynch CM today? I still don't think Thor is scum.

DonJosh · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:19 am

I forgot my vote...

VOTE: CMPunk

I've had similar reads with TheFool and CMPunk since the start. I would bet money that CMPunk is Mafia.

Also, how about the seer? Does anyone else think they should claim? If not today, definitely tomorrow.

whispersilk · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:30 am

I think if the seer has found a wolf, they should claim today. As our numbers decrease, the greater the risk they will be NK.

Thor665 · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:34 am

If seer isn't breadcrumbing than I hate seer. Probably a full claim should only happen with a wolf find, but seer clears could be helpful moving forward because tomorrow, if we're still looking at two wolves that's lylo if another mafia bites it. So, the seer better have been breadcrumbing like a gangsta is all I'm saying.

@DonJosh - why so certain of multiple scum in that particular clump?

whispersilk · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:45 am

Thor, you are so scum, and fitz is probably bussing you as you both knew you were going to get lynched today.

Yep. Thor and fitz are scum buddies.

Thor665 · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:39 am

@whispersilk - did my last post cause that particular barrage, or do you have evidence you'd like to present towards the obviousness of my scummitude?

Thor665 · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:40 am

Because fitz is really bad at bussing and hasn't made a real case yet.

DonJosh · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:45 am

@Seer: If you have found a werewolf, claim now.

whispersilk · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:08 am

Thor665 wrote:@whispersilk - did my last post cause that particular barrage, or do you have evidence you'd like to present towards the obviousness of my scummitude?

Nope, just a feeling I have.

Much like Sky is scum too. I was right about TheFool.

Shadowmod · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:08 am

Thor665

(3/5) -

havingfitz

,

whispersilk

,

BBmolla

DeityKabuto

(1/5) -

Thor665

CMPunk

(1/5) -

DonJosh

Not Voting (3/8): Sky, DeityKabuto, CMPunk

With 8 Players alive it requires 5 Votes to lynch / 4 to nolynch.

Deadline will be reached on Monday September 19th 2011, 6:00 p.m. Forum Time [UTC-6].

(expired on 2011-09-19 18:00:00)

till Day 3 Deadline

havingfitz · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:03 pm

Thor665 wrote:fitz...the scum are not aligned in this game.
Plus, it was hardly a surprising and shocking switch of events that got blindfaeth lynched over me - he was a strong contender wagon for the entire run of the day.

Not true...at one point you had him four votes to his one. His demise came pretty quickly. Also, I realize scum are not aligned...what's your point? First and foremost they want to survive and will work within their subsets to do so. Ideally they will try to get the other scum group before town but as long as they aren't losing one of their own they are probably pretty happy.

I suppose PoE is better than nothing but the fact you expressed more suspicions towards CM and have skipped over him for

someone who appears to have bailed on the site/game

is uber scummy IMO.

Thor665 wrote:Oh, and fitz, I'm not sure if you're better than this

If you're scum you may be right. If you are town, sadly, you may be right.

CM just chiming in with a short v/LA and no contribution is scummy IMO.

whispersilk wrote:Thor, you are so scum, and fitz is probably bussing you as you both knew you were going to get lynched today.

Yep. Thor and fitz are scum buddies.

Um...I've been pushing for Thor's lynch since the start of D2. And whichever scum alignment you are accusing me of being with Thor...you are basically saying I and trying to kill my partner and go at it solo the rest of the game? Brilliant. And incorrect. And Sky is scum too? What about CM?

Thor665 wrote:Because fitz is really bad at bussing and hasn't made a real case yet.

Are you saying I'm bussing you? If not...what do you mean? And I have presented my case on you several times. It's better than anything you had on BF and now on DK.

I agree with the comments regarding the seer. Unless the seer has been very unlucky and has investigated The Tick and TheFool his or her information could either out a wolf if they've been successful or can at least clear one or two players as not being wolves which would narrow the field down. The objective today should be to eliminate wolves first. Obvious scum of any kind would be nice to lynch but preferably a wolf.

BTW..

the bold above was for the mod's attention.

Thor665 · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:42 pm

havingfitz wrote:Not true...at one point you had him four votes to his one.

Seriously fitz. Seriously? Yeah, keep working that one.

havingfitz wrote:Also, I realize scum are not aligned...what's your point?

Part of your case on me is that I am scum because otherwise all the scum would have pushed to lynch me. Even if I am scum that only gives you 1-2 extra bodies to be pushing against my lynch. If it was 5, and they had actual ability to control the lynch, your issue here might hold serious water. As stands, I was run up quite aggressively and impressively for your shoddy case, and if we want to talk about where scum are - let's examine where most of the votes are right now and on what logic...hmmm...yeah...

havingfitz wrote:I suppose PoE is better than nothing but the fact you expressed more suspicions towards CM and have skipped over him for
someone who appears to have bailed on the site/game
is uber scummy IMO.

Me "jumping" over CM is quite well explained by me yesterday, and even today. We had a scum flip in his set of three, we haven't in the other set. If you think PoE is potentially functional at least pretend to understand it when you accuse me of something.

havingfitz wrote:
Thor665 wrote:Because fitz is really bad at bussing and hasn't made a real case yet.

Are you saying I'm bussing you? If not...what do you mean?

Shhhh - you told me we weren't supposed to talk about that in thread, only in the QT. (I may have been being sarcastic about her case - I dunno, check and get back to me)

havingfitz wrote: And I have presented my case on you several times. It's better than anything you had on BF and now on DK.

havingfitz wrote:
Thor case restated
- Thor is scum for his unmitigated D1 tunnelling on Ray.

*cough*
Yeah - tunneling - the ultimate scum tell. Allow me to present my rejoinder to the case.

Sky · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:58 pm

Well we had a mislynch. I think that despite Thor having two on his record I am not fully convinced he scum. I would like to count fitz on this wagon since he placed blind at his number two spot, a kind of insurance if blind did flip scum. CMPunk is still scum as ever, but I need to reread. Not that I can right noww. I'm practically already off on vacation so

MOD: V/LA for labor day weekend

DeityKabuto · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:46 am

DK here

Vote Thor

Limited access, power is still out.

Thor665 · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:25 am

And the derp wagon continues.
Yeah, this is totally town driven, fer'sure.

DeityKabuto · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:54 am

Thor665 wrote:And the derp wagon continues.
Yeah, this is totally town driven, fer'sure.

Look at you.

Just vote yourself.

Thor665 · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:07 am

BBmolla wrote:Ugh. I should have just gone with my gut yesterday.

BBmolla wrote:Thor's case was good, and he has been consistently good today. I wanted to see if Blind could create a case that could match up to it or top it. However he managed to choose choice C by saying "lol brb tomorrow guis "

Ugh.

@BB - at one stage yesterday not only did I sell you on town me enough to unvote - but to eventually agree with my reads.
What caused the changeup?

Also - what is your read on DK and fitz?

@DK -

BBmolla · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:47 am

@Thor:
Your case

was

good. And BF

didn't

match it. I was so conflicted because I thought BF was town but he wasn't showing it.
My vote on you mainly has to do with the BF town flip. I said earlier that I don't think that you guys are on the same side, and I still don't.

I still think DK is town. Especially after BF's flip.

I'm unsure of fitz. I don't think you two are on the same side, but that doesn't neccesarily make him town.

whispersilk · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:08 am

4 scum left are thor, fitz, sky and DJ.

I think.

Thor665 · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:33 pm

In post 797, BBmolla wrote:My vote on you mainly has to do with the BF town flip. I said earlier that I don't think that you guys are on the same side, and I still don't.

Why do you believe this?
Because town doesn't know who is on their side, and if you agree that my case on BF was good and had town logic to it then...

I'm unsure of fitz. I don't think you two are on the same side, but that doesn't neccesarily make him town.

Egads, the tells, they hurt my soul.