Open 329: Mayo Clinic D3: Town WINS!

[neil1113]

By neil's own admission, he is endangering our plan.

We lynch glowball. Neil is vig meat.

Problem solved.

Crap posted too quick. Also wanted to note, that because I'm against "your" plan, I should be vigged/lynched. That's not town-motivated, that's plan-motivated. And I've already proven that 1. The plan failed. 2. The plan will not work. 3. The plan can't work. 4. The plan isn't going to work.

Oh and 5. I'm adding this in because all lists are divisible by 5. (Points if you got this.)

Anyways Izak, while you stick to be a VI, try not to sheep too much alright? The plan's already failed, so do some scum hunting now.

[VitaminR]

Some fairly unacceptable things were said in the last few pages. Could we calm the fuck down about this? It's just a game. I don't want to read another four or five pages of "you're anti-town!" "no, YOU'RE anti-town!" I'm not lynching glow or Neil for having unpopular opinions or forcing them to replace out. If two or more people are against the plan, then it's not really workable. So let's just hunt scum for the moment.

Someone explain the thing about the Thomith to me. I don't see it.

[Thomith]

You are going against your win condition by not claiming.

Bullcrap, it is not what towns motivations are but if glow is town it is in no way going against her wincon, although it is anti-town to potentially let scum claim your slot.

It doesn't benefit the town if you just end up shooting town members!

So you would prefer up to 4 town deaths a night? Rather than 1-3 with a higher chance of a scum death?

You called me scum and placed a vote saying that my reaction was a scum reaction....

Don't twist his words, he changed the read, i don't like people who say someones reads are wrong without reading the thread.

FOS:glowball

maru i still want you to prove you weren't the third serious vote.

maybe you guys should get better at scumhunting then,

So you are right 100% of the time? like to see that.

why can't we just scum hunt? does anyone want to know why I am voting who I am voting

I already asked you but you are so enthralled at saying "this plan is bad this plan is bad this plan is bad this plan is bad" you didn't even notice that I AM TRYING TO SCUMHUNT TOO WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU IS IMPOSSIBLE IF WE GO BY THE PLAN.

oh look annother person saying OMG THOMITH IS SCUM without explaining why, this wagon is so scum motivated it is rediculous >.>

[Maruchan]

maru i still want you to prove you weren't the third serious vote.

oh look annother person saying OMG THOMITH IS SCUM without explaining why, this wagon is so scum motivated it is rediculous >.>

I told you I would in the morning. Its still night time. only 4AM. I'll go to bed in an hour or so.

As to why you're scum I will explain it after some more people ISO you.

[Thomith]

Explain it now. Only scum say "oh yes this guy is scum but i'm not going to say why unless everyone ISO's him"
If i am so scum point it out or stop saying it with no reasoning.

[Thomith]

also didn't you say it was 4am when i asked you ages ago?

[Maruchan]

also didn't you say it was 4am when i asked you ages ago?

oh. That was yesterday? This is what summer does to me. I thought I told you that earlier TODAY. All my days blend together so thoroughly sometimes I forget what day of the week it is and call y recruiter on the wrong days. X.X

I promise I'll do it tomorrow though, which is in about 5 hours.

(yes me keeping putting that off is totally scummy, but I honestly didn't realize that today was the tomorrow I told you. I truly did think I said that today)

[Thomith]

meh, i understand, i used to be like that, my vote stays so you remember to do it however if you forget again i will be annoyed >.>

[Maruchan]

I totally understand, but I shouldn't forget again, as I will be waking up to an alarm at 9, so I SHOULD remember talking about that as being tomorrow, and when I refresh this thread this'll be the first comment I see.

[Thomith]

I still want reasons why i am scum other than "OMG HIS ISO MAKES HIM SCUM"

[GreyICE]

Vote: Neil1113

Neil's the scum hiding behind Glowball's dumb. He's better than this.

How do the scum intend to take out the vig?

We put two doctors on him. It's this easy:

List of doctors

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Original Roll String: 2d10

2 10-Sided Dice: (6, 4) = 10

[GreyICE]

oh look, two doctors randomly selected, scum can't kill our vig unless either BOTH 'doctors' assigned to the vig is scum, or at least one is scum AND the SK PLUS the mafia shoot the vig.

And if that happens, we have sooo much scum sitting there that random.org handed us pure win.

Neil is deliberately trying to avoid claiming and hoping we won't notice.

[GreyICE]

The 'plan' is fairly simple.

1) Vigs claim. 2 confirmed town. Lynch pool 10
2) 10 doctors. We pick one to lynch.
3) Random.org rolls as follows:
3a) First roll: Doctor protects Vig 1
3b) Second roll: Doctor protects Vig 2
3c) Third roll: Doctor protects vig 1 OR vig 2
4) We pick our next biggest/two biggest suspects. No one protects them.
5) All doctors remaining pick from pool of non-Vig, non-Vig target players.

Maximizes doctor spread to maximize protects. Virtually guarantees vig survival with very minimal effort.

Survival in the 'no town protects them' is not good. I guess the mafia doctor could protect town to waste a lynch, but... hey mafia doctor, go ahead. There's still an SK out there, he's not aiming for the guys the vigs are shooting, is he? Catch!

[Thomith]

what we could do, which would work unless a town doc protects a target but as someone already said have the vigs target the same person so it would kill through the mafia doctor protect, pretty much confirming the person who doesn't die as a SK.

I still would love to know what is so scummy about my ISO, i think the wagon is scum motivated completely as both people on it just went "HURR DURR HES SCUM" with no reason, other than "OMG HIS ISO"

[GreyICE]

I'd rather have two targets than one at the moment.

Shot still kills mafia doctor, protect or no, and I'd rather have two shots to find the serial killer than one.

[Thomith]

if the mafia doc protects a target then it wont be confirmed Sk although i doubt the mafia doctor would protect a towny but i don't know :/.

[GreyICE]

Again, Mafia doctor risks losing non-vig shot scum to the SK if he does that, since he'd be relying solely on townies to protect all 3 mafia members. And since the SK won't be shooting either vig shot (or the vigs, if he has half a brain cell) then if there's no mafia in the shooting gallery, 3/8 of his targets are scum. And for all the mafia knows, he might be one, so it's 3/7. That's some nice stones on the gambling they have going.

[Thomith]

ok then that is a good idea, and was i next to claim, i lost track :/?

[GreyICE]

No, lets stop for one second.

This is a line

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Neil and Glowball, no one is claiming until you post under this line. If any post you make after you cross this line does not include a claim, your claim is doctor. We are NOT having the fun of deconfirming town because of your damn ego trips, you are NOT a vigilante if you do not claim so.

[Thomith]

A question to glow and neil, i see why you want to play legitly but if you have been proved that if you don't claim it is complete mayhem, and it seems that you guys think that if you sccumhunt well enough to catch 4 anti town with a max of 4 deaths per night meaning unless you get rid of one killing faction then town is pretty much screwed day 2, and seeing as glow is leading a mislynch anyway it would be good to claim, and you will still need to use a good amount of scum hunting even if we have to claim.

[ToastyToast]

ToastyToast was busy being busy. So GreyICE came in and was like
GreyICE: CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM
glowball: FUUUUUUU
BBmolla: NO UUUUUU
glowball and GreyICE and BBmolla begin to slap each other dramitically. Not as impressive as the last time this happened.
Mega: I'm Here. but I'm not gonna say anything other than that I'm here.
maruchan: mer mer said something I didn't read
piggygirl15: OINK PROD DODGE
neil1113: GIANT POST TO TORTURE TOASTY
whispersilk: hey guys. I agree. That is all.

DAMMIT. I haven't eaten since 4PM yesterday. writing OINK made me hungry...can't continue...

Please let me know if my votes are wrong. I'm still busy unpacking and getting settled into the dorm.
Also, arguing over whose blacklisting who and who should just replace out for fail counts as insult to other players. Please take your bitching elsewhere.

Vote Count #6

glowball (1) - izakthegoomba,
Mega (0) -
pinkfloyd (0) -
PiggyGal15 (0) -
izakthegoomba (1) - VitaminR
BBmolla (0) -
VitaminR (0) -
Thomith (1) - glowball, Maruchan
Maruchan (1) - Thomith
Quaroath (0) -
neil1113 (1) - GreyICE1113
whispersilk (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not voting: Mega, pinkfloyd, PiggyGal15, Quaroath, neil1113, whispersilk, BBmolla, Maruchan

It takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no lynch!

[Maruchan]

I generally have a bad feeling about claiming- I just don't like it and I think that there are several ways for it to go wrong and cripple town a whole lot more than scum. You are putting us at an even bigger disadvantage by giving scum the only information that they don't have which are the exact placement of PRs. Also, you can vote all you want if someone isn't on board they can lie and mess up the whole thing...don't test me, I've been known to lie during these pushy claim situations. OH AND GUESS WHAT? Town won in that game perfectly after we spent pages discussing claiming for it all to fly out the window.

Actually I don't have to do better than that. Every plan has faults HELL you couldn't even adequately explain what would happen with all of the claims, so you cannot hold me to a standard of disproving them until you have sufficiently proven them. Like I said, if you don't have everyone on board especially the PRs you want outed then your plan doesn't work at all.

After reading both of these is when I decided she was scum, and this is also where the other two who serious voted her thought she was scum.

My vote was on her as an RVS and Vitamn's was on her as RVS, but he was calling it serious for some reason. I read this and thats when I normally would have put my vote on her.


By the time I read this, The other two had already voted for her (Posts #70 and #72), so yes my vote WOULD have been third, but I would have voted for her before I noticed the other two votes. If you haven't noticed by my playstyle I usually read through the replies, and as SOON as I see one I want to reply to, I reply to it, without reading the rest immediately. So yes, my vote WOULD have been third, but only because I didn't read her scummieness as quickly as the other voters did. I also wouldn't have KNOWN they were voting for her when I would've voted for her.

[Maruchan]

Oh yeah, and the reason I'm voting you is for the first few pages you were so against vig-claiming that you were almost defending glowball, then you go away for a bit come back, and 100 posts later in the game, with no mention of it, you seem so on-board with the claiming idea, and you make a statement like "Everybody agreed to it except her", when you never mentioned that you changed your mind. It made it seem like you'd been pro-vig-claim all along, when really you weren't.

[Thomith]

Did you not read my posts, i said i prefered the second plan more than the original, so i didn't change my mind on the first plan, i said i prefered the second, so you made a case on nothing as you missed that post. Glows vote seems like a semi town reaction but yours just seems like a sheep vote.

[Maruchan]

unvote

Oh you did? I must've missed that post. Maybe there is something else she saw in your ISO then.


I'll take your word that you made that post though.