Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Kast]

@vezok: WTF did you delay a claimed tracker? Not that it matters due to

losing our ability.

@Muffin: I agree with Nik; CJ is most likely mafia.

@Nik: Why do you think there there was more than 1 cult day 1?

Has anyone even bothered to read my town game and mafia-sided game to see how I act when I'm anti-town vs when I'm town?

Why the hell would I want to spend hours reading through an (ended?) game where you are town when you refuse to spend the time to read through this that you are currently playing in?

Also, you already pointed out how you don't care about games when you're scum so you half ass your way through them. That's a whole new level of willful disrespect to the mods and to the other players, but even ignoring that, if we take you at face value that you haven't read through the game, then using your claimed meta, I can conclude that are (1) trying your best as scum to act like what YOU think is your town meta (2) failing to be consistent since you are still half ass-ing your way through this game by not caring enough to read through.

Also, I asked you to to disprove my assumption that you are smart enough to play mafia competently. Demonstrating that you sucked in past games doesn't prove you are unable to learn from your mistakes. (Incidentally I find it amusing to think that you're actively arguing about your own inability while I'm defending the opposite by taking the position that no one can prove themselves town by citing that they'd be incompetent as scum).

[Kast]

@WLC: That is the correct post. I hid the breadcrumb. I doubt you'll be able to find it if I don't point it out, but once I do it'll be overly obvious, unambiguous, and uncontroversial. I realize it isn't the breadcrumbing convention on this site, but cleared with Kast original and mod that it's a legit style.

Kast2

[Kast]

Anyway, I have a feeling that everyone who was targetted tonight has lost their powers, as at the start of the day I got a pm with the same information tans had.

This doesn't make sense. Please clarify. Are you referring to N2? If so, are you claiming that you temporarily lost your ability, or that you perma lost your ability? We have numerous night target claims, but only 3 claims of vanilla'd.

N2 Claims
- Kast - Perma Vanilla'd, also delayed by Vezok
- Andrius - Targetted Mr. S
- Candle Jack - No night (or any) claims
- WeyounsLastClone - Perma Vanilla'd or Temp Power Stolen?
- Blackberry - Was targetted or bus driven in a "provable" manner
- hiplop - No night claims
- Mr. Subliminal - (indirect) was double blocked
- ToastyToast - Blocked oversoul
- vezokpiraka - Delayed Kast
- tanstalas - Perma Vanilla'd
- Nikanor - No night claims
- zMuffinMan - Blocked Mr. S
- inHimshalibe - No night claims
- Oversoul - Was blocked by Toast, his delayed action would presumably also be blocked

[zMuffinMan]

Who's against a mass claim and why?

[zMuffinMan]

PS:

Anyway, I have a feeling that everyone who was targetted tonight has lost their powers, as at the start of the day I got a pm with the same information tans had. Something's fishy at the least. After I get answer from tans on questions above, I'll claim if that's what people really want.

This is bullshit.

Either Kast is lying, or people who lost their powers performed no actions that night, which means tans did not end up targeting you (or he's lying about having lost his powers), so you couldn't have lost your powers from someone targeting you, and it doesn't explain why others who were targeted by someone didn't get this mysterious PM that you supposedly got.

Did you lose your powers permanently?

[zMuffinMan]

Also when was this PM sent? Kast claims he got it "last night", you're claiming you got it today.

[zMuffinMan]

That ooba lynch. Was so bad. It should never have happened.

I'm currently working on the assumption that almost half the remaining player list is anti-town.

I'm all paranoid and shit.

It's me against the world.

Zombie apocalypse style.

[Mr Subliminal]

@vezok: WTF did you delay a claimed tracker? Not that it matters due to

losing our ability.

You didn't claim tracker D2. So WTF is this coming from?

Who's against a mass claim and why?

We are. Mass claim loses cult games. Just look at Succession II and see how the cult went from one member to winning thanks to the town's mass claim. There's more than enough people cleared of being the cult leader that mass claim only hurts.

Very interested in WLC's answers to zMuffinMan's questions.

[WeyounsLastClone]

PS:

Anyway, I have a feeling that everyone who was targetted tonight has lost their powers, as at the start of the day I got a pm with the same information tans had. Something's fishy at the least. After I get answer from tans on questions above, I'll claim if that's what people really want.

This is bullshit.

Either Kast is lying, or people who lost their powers performed no actions that night, which means tans did not end up targeting you (or he's lying about having lost his powers), so you couldn't have lost your powers from someone targeting you, and it doesn't explain why others who were targeted by someone didn't get this mysterious PM that you supposedly got.

Did you lose your powers permanently?

The pm was at the same time as start of day post. So I believe everything during the night should still have processed as normal, and that's why I want to know what tans did tonight.
PM basically says my powers are gone. As it doesn't specify anything regarding the loss being temporarily, I assume it's permanent and not just stolen what tans was going to do in the night.

[Mr Subliminal]

And what, pray tell, was your power, and any usages/results of it you performed?

[WeyounsLastClone]

And what, pray tell, was your power, and any usages/results of it you performed?

First want to hear from Tans if he got to steal my power last night and got insight in what it is. I'll say now it was an anti-cult power rather than anti-scum.

[Oversoul]

PS:

Anyway, I have a feeling that everyone who was targetted tonight has lost their powers, as at the start of the day I got a pm with the same information tans had. Something's fishy at the least. After I get answer from tans on questions above, I'll claim if that's what people really want.

This is bullshit.

Either Kast is lying, or people who lost their powers performed no actions that night, which means tans did not end up targeting you (or he's lying about having lost his powers), so you couldn't have lost your powers from someone targeting you, and it doesn't explain why others who were targeted by someone didn't get this mysterious PM that you supposedly got.

Did you lose your powers permanently?

The pm was at the same time as start of day post. So I believe everything during the night should still have processed as normal, and that's why I want to know what tans did tonight.
PM basically says my powers are gone. As it doesn't specify anything regarding the loss being temporarily, I assume it's permanent and not just stolen what tans was going to do in the night.

VOTE: WLC

Scumslip.

Nikanor already claimed to vanillalize Kast and Tans and Andrius gave no indication that he received a PM stating his powers were removed. That in combination with your power being anti cult, you are likely mafia.

[Mr Subliminal]

FFS why are you voting someone you think is Mafia?

[tanstalas]

I already said I blocked you, didn't I?

/phonepost

[Oversoul]

I think he is scum, but the only thing that makes me think he is mafia is his "I have an anti cult power rather than anti mafia power", but that is a pretty big tipper. :\ meh. Now I am indecisive.

Either way, let it be known that WLC is scum and deserves to die sooner or later, I don't really care. As long as he dies.

And are we ever going to massclaim?

[WeyounsLastClone]

I already said I blocked you, didn't I?

/phonepost

So if you used Andy's block that you stole N1 on me, what did you do with your own stealing abilities power last night? Or am I misunderstanding your role?

[tanstalas]

I already said I blocked you, didn't I?

/phonepost

So if you used Andy's block that you stole N1 on me, what did you do with your own stealing abilities power last night? Or am I misunderstanding your role?

Already answered in post 1256.

Please stop asking stuff I already said.

[Mr Subliminal]

We wish WLC to claim now, because he's already claimed to now be vanilla.
We also wish Candlejack to claim, because we want to lynch him.

As we understand it, Kast, tanstalas, and WeyounsLastClone are all claiming to have been permanently vanilla-ized.

We

very much

wish Blackberry to explain this quote:

Kast said he would track me last night, no?

Please tell us where you came up with this. Link to a specific Kast post would be great.

[Blackberry]

On iPhone. Just want to correct Kast that I was not bus driven, someone else was.

[Blackberry]

1632 for mr s

[WeyounsLastClone]

I already said I blocked you, didn't I?

/phonepost

So if you used Andy's block that you stole N1 on me, what did you do with your own stealing abilities power last night? Or am I misunderstanding your role?

Already answered in post 1256.

Please stop asking stuff I already said.

Sorry, then I misunderstood. I thought you stole from Andy, and that what you stole was a roleblock. So that this night you could have used that roleblock ability, and your own stealing ability. I probably have missed exactly then what you stole from Andy, if any, as I can't seem to find it. You really don't have to be an ass about it, especially when you still ignore one open point. You still had your power tonight. If you used it on me, you would have to know what my ability was, right?

If I'm still wrong, you should maybe have a look if what you posted really makes sense.

[Mr Subliminal]

@Blackberry:

It is a real stretch for me to buy that you read that and said to yourself, "Kast is a tracker" out of all the other chaos of the day on the one hand, and then turn around and make all these accusations that a cursory reading of the thread would show are not possible.

@WeyounsLastClone:

tanstalas is saying he steals a power N1, uses it N2, steals N3, uses it N4, etc. Kindly skip to the point where you claim your power and your targets and results.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Okay, that one sentence makes it a lot clearer. I was an anti-cult doctor. So basically I could target someone and he/she could not be culted then that night. First night I targeted Mr. S, second night I targeted Kast.

[Mr Subliminal]

Does the message you received about your vanilla-fication specify whether or not your ability went through N2?

[WeyounsLastClone]

No, the message I got at the start of the day losing my powers didn't mention anything affecting N2.