TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Rainbowdash]

@Banshee - This quote

Izak? Care to declare your love of strange religion to us all?

If thats a result we lynch Izak since it means he is prob-SK.

If not we lynch DMSIS once he claims his "result".

[izakthegoomba]

@DX oh yes, I lol'd at that.

Big tBBT fan, and a bit of a geek. That episode pictured...

So shy does this change so much? We know Rodion was town. Big deal. Me, fourseen, and Mysterio are ProbTown. Useful, but nothing massive for our lynch choice. And Junpei was genuine, which just means we've missed out on at least a night of results, thanks to Rodion. So why have we suddenly changed our minds?

[David Xanatos]

I have to wonder that as well, and no Rainbow, that wasn't a result.. that was me just taking a light-ish swipe at Izak for his 3rd party Rodion thoughts, which are now, ironically, true.

I don't see this changing anything, I do believe CB is our best option today, unless something directly changes.

The only change from yesterday is we've lost 3 Town, a CT and 2 PRs.. we haven't learned anything new.

[Banshee]

I was never crazy about the Castle Bravo lynch. However, I also thought first that Rodion was scum and then that Rodion had softclaimed doctor during the last day, so I'm willing to accept my reads haven't been terrific this game.

I still think Shotty is a MUCH better lynch for today, though.

[Rainbowdash]

Why is CB going into meltdown mode? These are all the reasons I have come up with

A) Is town who thinks its the only way to got MoI lynched
B) Is mafia protecting somepony else who is not oversoul. This would be DMSIS
C) Is cult protecting somepony else. This would be DMSIS

In any situation, CB is actually the wrong lynch. If its the first one, CB is town. DMSIS is probably not town. In scenario B and C, CB is actively protecting some other anti-town which means that he is the less valueable pony in a pair of ponies. This is even more disasterous in situation C, as it gives cult another recruit. I will bet that DMSIS and CB are tied somehow, and DMSIS is more valueable for his faction to have alive.

Also all you ponies and your flavor talk. I recognize two flipped characters.

Seeing the response from DX

Vote DMSIS

Remember that

1) He had a "pre-game" action unlike anypony else
2) His role is called the wrong thing
3) He can force other ponies to bodyguard him

None of that makes much sense to me. He will claim his result first just incase, but he isn't town, and is our lynch.

[Banshee]

^ This.

VOTE: Drmyshottyiszik

[izakthegoomba]

CB, DMSIS, meh. I'll go either way.

[David Xanatos]

That's what she said.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok time for my gambit to end. I am a town night role cop. That is it. I gambitted with the other roles so that I could stay alive longer and pump out more results. I felt I needed to stay alive since I recieved both alingment and role. I feel I did a good job since I`ve confirmed a few townies and have now caught a second scum. PerigrineV is a Holy SK. I`m assuming that he is the reason we have the second night kill lately. Maybe he wasnt shooting earlier because he didnt want us to hunt for 3rd party are maybe the Holy part of his role has something more to do with his role then just the flavour. Any way I feel he is the lynch for today since more than likely there are more than one mafia members left. So by lynching him we will have one less kill each night. That being said.

Vote PerigrineV

[izakthegoomba]

UNVOTE: Castle Bravo
VOTE: PerigrineV

If DMSIS is telling the truth, we clear him and catch the SK. If DMSIS is lying, he is NearConfScum and we lynch him tomorrow. Simples.

[Rainbowdash]

@DMSIS - All actions and results.

I need to think about this one.



So much confusion.

[David Xanatos]

I can't believe this shit.. we've already had to deal with a moronic CT blowing himself up, wasting our lynch, Castle Bravo playing silly buggers with a scum claim out of nowhere, and acting generally idiotic, and now we have to deal with the fact there's a fakeclaim/gambit/whatever the fuck you thought you were doing claiming to have discovered a flavour SK.. does anyone actually buy this claim?

PEdit: Oh my god Izak actually buys this claim.. why did I not see this coming?

[ThAdmiral]

I'll reserve judgement until shotty fullclaums properly, along with peregrine fullclaiming.

[Castle Bravo]

Haha even if shotty was ours why would he fake it?

We want sk dead as much as anyone else.

This is so awesome we STILL were getting the shotty mislynch without me even trying.

Told you this town couldn't lynch a claimed goon, Jason. I win.

vote: peregrine v

By the by rainbow, you actually have a very shaky grasp on game mechanics and proper balance. Town leader schtick ain't bad, but your inability to admit the gaps in your knowledge makes you very ineffective. You're not bad, but without more humility and cooperation, you're a net asset to our team. One man rarely does it all.

If I were town, it'd cheese me off, but as is, keep on truckin'

[Mysterio]

This game is a clusterfuck. Shotty always plays like this, so it's impossible to get any reads on him other than VI. I'll wait to see how peregrine responds to this.

[izakthegoomba]

When did I say I believed it? I just wan to go along with it because however it pans out, we catch scum.

[PeregrineV]

Ok time for my gambit to end. I am a town night role cop. That is it. I gambitted with the other roles so that I could stay alive longer and pump out more results. I felt I needed to stay alive since I recieved both alingment and role. I feel I did a good job since I`ve confirmed a few townies and have now caught a second scum. PerigrineV is a Holy SK. I`m assuming that he is the reason we have the second night kill lately. Maybe he wasnt shooting earlier because he didnt want us to hunt for 3rd party are maybe the Holy part of his role has something more to do with his role then just the flavour. Any way I feel he is the lynch for today since more than likely there are more than one mafia members left. So by lynching him we will have one less kill each night. That being said.

Vote PerigrineV

lol...no.

I'm not a Holy SK, or anything cool like that.

So either 1) you were redirected
2) You're full of it, and tired of keeping track of your own lies, so decided to self-destruct.

Vote: Shotty

And since your "gambit is over", you may want to provide your real targets so we can stop making the wrong assumptions and drawing the wrong conclusions.

[izakthegoomba]

Peregrine, fullclaim NOW

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine, fullclaim NOW

Ok, I am not a SK, holy or unholy.

Would you like me to claim a power role with these three people voting me?

DrShotty, CastleBravo, Izak

Not going to happen.

[izakthegoomba]

Fine.

Scumdar™ time!

Castle Bravo - 9/10

PeregrineV - 8/10

drmyshottyizsik - 8/10

silverbullet999 - 7/10

Meransiel - 6/10

David Xanatos - 6/10

vezokpiraka - 5/10

Banshee - 5/10

Nero Cain - 5/10

ThAdmiral - 5/10

ZeL1nK - 4/10

TheJakalope - 4/10

Rainbowdash - 4/10

MagnaofIllusion - 2/10

FourseenCircumstance - 2/10

Mysterio - 2/10

[Banshee]

Izak, you realise that you, FourseenCircumstance and Mysterio have only been cleared of being Mafia Goons, right? Not any other variety of Mafia?

[David Xanatos]

Where'd the unholy part come from?

And why's ThAd at 5? I actually find him rather Townish.. I don't see why you're null on him..

[PeregrineV]

Fine.

Scumdar™ time!

Castle Bravo - 9/10

PeregrineV - 8/10

drmyshottyizsik - 8/10

silverbullet999 - 7/10

Meransiel - 6/10

David Xanatos - 6/10

vezokpiraka - 5/10

Banshee - 5/10

Nero Cain - 5/10

ThAdmiral - 5/10

ZeL1nK - 4/10

TheJakalope - 4/10

Rainbowdash - 4/10

MagnaofIllusion - 2/10

FourseenCircumstance - 2/10

Mysterio - 2/10

Castle Bravo - 9/10

-claimed mafia goon

PeregrineV - 8/10

- "scum" as per 3rd scumread

drmyshottyizsik - 8/10

- voting me along with you and your top scumread

Do you see any problems with your list? It's starting to look somewhat arbitrary when it doesn't follow the rules of logic.

@David- I played D&D so everything was either Holy or Unholy (Avenger, water, light)

[izakthegoomba]

@Banshee yeah, I know, but they've done nothing scummy FMPOV. I'm not questioning their townieness now, because there are several others that are far more likely to be scum than they are. If one/both of them got near the endgame with me, I would consider that they were scum after all.

@DX well I'll have another look at him now you've mentioned it, but he just hasn't stuck out as either town or scum FMPOV.

[izakthegoomba]

@PeregrineV obviously, if one of you two flipped scum, my read of the other would go right down to 2 or 3. Likewise, a town flip (RC flip from shotty) would send the other even higher. Right now, I see both as equally possible, and both of you have WAY above average chances of being scum, hence the 8/10 reads on both of you.