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No avatars eating avatars! This is why I don't have one! For the sole purpose of avoiding avatar abuse! You abusers!ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Grey, you've got to be kidding me! You're FoSing someone for voting before the game started, yet you'd turn around and FoS someone before the game starts? Then you clear Jake because of his anxiety to play the game, but it's okay that he's jumpy to start due to the fact that... he admitted? I hope this isn't how you actually plan on playing this game.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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A massclaim at the beginning of the game? I feel like that'd kind of ruin the game on a lot of levels, plus it'd give the scum the chance to know who to kill. We'd have our Power Roles out'd and most likely gone by Day 3.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Again, I really don't like the idea of the plan. Dark explained why a little better then I did. It's a good plan, but not a sound one. And with one lucky shot, our vig could wind up dying night 1. Then what Hoopla? Also, what if the vig doesn't exactly know of the pool of people who to vig? Just take a lucky guess and cross your fingers?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun, I didn't say the vig wouldn't know which pool to vig from. I said what if the vig doesn't have a clear choice, out of the people in the pool to vig? Does he just make a random shot, and cross his fingers?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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swankidelic wrote:glowball wrote:I never said it should be stalled, but I am asking for a summary not of the game but of a plan I wasn't around for during it's conception.... Also, the only reason I even ask and refuse to read is because I am against this plan. I am giving you guys the chance to pitch this to me because as it stands I will not be participating.
So, yeah, it's a complex plan, and it took me a while to digest it, too. I wanted to write that summary as clearly and concisely as possible. There's some really smart basic ideas that, if you understand them, makes all the rewordings make sense. Lemme try again:
The PR pool is for town confirmations. If scum counterclaim these, it's disprovable.
The lynch/VT pool is to make sure the vig doesn't get lynched.
The vig/no-claim pool is to give the vig a place to hide from scum nightkills.
Scum can claim (or not claim) whatever they want, but they'll be sorted into one of these pools. Each one comes with its own risk: scum in the VT pool have to worry about getting lynched, and scum in the no-claim pool have to worry about getting vigged.
If that doesn't do it for you, well, feel free to scumhunt, we still need discussion to drive this game.
What's your take on how easy the vig could get lynched / pointed out if all the scum hide in the no-claim pool?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun wrote:No, 3/6 split is better. It almost guarantees scum in both pools.
I like this a lot better then 4/5. Also, Muffin, is there a reason you're shushing my point? Or am I overlooking it?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Okay I'm going to risk looking stupid and probably getting heat from others in this game for "not reading the thread" or whatever, which I'm fine with. Hate me if you want. But I can't quite figure out from the postings between Am and Glow, is the plan a no-go?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Glow, you keep bringing up the possibility that Hoopla is scum and using this plan to her advantage? In your mindset, how would this plan benefit the scum team, if you were scum? Because I can only write this off as town minded, considering how it turns the playing field to benefit us, and not them? Unless I've missed something?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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glowball wrote:I don't need the phony back handed apologies, and I am not here to survive that is where people are wrong. They are upset with me and willing to get rid of me as if it hurts just myself, this is a team game and voting me is putting yourselves down one player who will actively scum hunt and is doing so in the process of all of this-- my refusal reveals a lot and if I am forced to go by lynching then so be it. But I really hope you guys are smarter than lynching someone who disagrees--what motivation would I have to be outwardly against this plan? even still? just to put heat on myself? really...not smart, but I will understand and accept it as stupid play if I have to go and hopefully town will still win.
I for one apologize if anything I've said offended you, or made you think I was upset with you! I'm not at all, and like Hoopla said, I welcome criticism. I had my own when she first mentioned it. (And I still do.) However I believe your input is valid, valuable, and valutatious (that's totally not a word, but I wanted to continue the pattern here..) and I enjoy you playing this game. I for one will fight against your policy lynch, as I don't believe there should ever be a moment where town should policy lynch, especially not a policy other than VI. However, please take note that only one person said they'd be willing to lynch you, and that one person seems to have very little say for the town itself. Which come to think of it, the town itself has been awfully quiet ever since the formation of this plan has begun...
Quilford wrote:Would it be more beneficial to claim PR instead of specific PR (obv. vig doesn't claim) and then go from there?
I think you're missing the point of the plan. Re-read over it and see why we'd be claiming det. / not det. as the first round.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Muffin, I'm with you there. I have very little reads, because I feel like this game is going away from normal Mafia to formulate it's new plan. I would rather this game just get on, either with the plan or without it. But I'm tired of spending the past 7 or 8 (maybe more?) pages between three people discussing the plan...ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun wrote:Neil, we are waiting on jakesh. We might as well discuss while we wait for him to post or get replaced.
Discuss... what, exactly?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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DarkFlashlight wrote:UNVOTE: Neil1113
It was supposed to be a reaction test, but we got really sidetracked, so there never even was a reaction.
To be fair... I didn't even notice you voted for me. Sorry. If you'd like to vote for me again, I'll gladly give you a reaction.
Glowball makes me smile with her style of play, but I think town is wrong to go her direction for today's suspect pool (or in other words, a main wagon on her would be a mistake I believe because I believe her to be genuine town.)
I'm not sure what the case on LittleGreen is, or why people find him/her suspicious? I think I'll have to look over this play slot before I can really comment on it, but I'd like those that are serious about pushing this slot to explain why.
Jakesh I'm pretty sure just dodged the prod, and is lurking. Noted. If you don't have time for the game, why bother playing it in the first place?
Amrun makes me nervous, because she has a "really townie" feel about her. But I'm very tempted to fall into a too townie fallacy with her, so I'm trying not to think about her too much.
Ever since Glow's mention of the possibility of Hoopla being scum and orchestrating this plan, it's got me nervous about the Hoopla slot. I really wish you'd explain to me the benefit to scum this plan would have though Glow, because I just don't see it. And I've tried to imagine it.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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EBWOP: LittleGrey. And her. Sorry. :/ShowTotal Games Played:17
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zMuffinMan wrote:PS: Oh, neil... You're scum again, aren't you? That sucks. Was hoping for a town game with you.
How'd you know??? What gave it away? Dangitt, I thought I was doing so good too!
Actually no, not this game. So we have a town game together now! However I'm going to be very upset if we lose.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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neil1113 wrote:zMuffinMan wrote:PS: Oh, neil... You're scum again, aren't you? That sucks. Was hoping for a town game with you.
How'd you know??? What gave it away? Dangitt, I thought I was doing so good too!
Actually no, not this game. So we have a town game together now! However I'm going to be very upset if we lose.
Wait, are you scum? Is this your sly way of getting me in your pocket, so you don't have to worry about me???? Are you trying to get into my head here Muffin?
/paranoia. Thanks a lot Muffin.. :/ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oh yes, almost forgot to respond to Glow,
glowball wrote:Also, Neil your avatar makes ME smile- I want to have all of the Rock's babies!
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DarkFlashlight wrote:neil1113 wrote:Amrun makes me nervous, because she has a "really townie" feel about her. But I'm very tempted to fall into a too townie fallacy with her, so I'm trying not to think about her too much.
What about Hoopla?
Neil wrote:Ever since Glow's mention of the possibility of Hoopla being scum and orchestrating this plan, it's got me nervous about the Hoopla slot. I really wish you'd explain to me the benefit to scum this plan would have though Glow, because I just don't see it. And I've tried to imagine it.
I expressed my concern about Hoopla here. ^^ShowTotal Games Played:17
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I'm scum? With Muffin? ... I'd like to hear why?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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I'm pretty sure my post was self-explanatory. If you really need a deeper explanation of it, feel free to let me know.
Grey, now I see why people think you're scummy. Out of the three people you signaled as scum, you picked the one person that is least likely to address your suspicions based on his play this game? I'd have picked Muffin first, since he's active and would be most likely to address my suspicions, then Quilford, because I know Quilfs meta, and I know Quilf will respond if pressured, and THEN FINALLY, if both have cleared their name for the time being in my book, then I'd address Jake. It seems like this post of yours if a false sense of scum hunting, and you just don't really want to be confronted with your reads, so you picked the one person that is least likely to confront you about them and pursued your lynch target on that person.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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glowball wrote:Hoopla wrote:glowball wrote:@Hoopla....why did you feel the need to reply to Swank?
Because it's a silly thing to say. And I thought it should be quoted in all its glory at the top of the new page.
Why did you feel the need to ask me that question?
I just find that scum tend to reply to things about themselves that didn't require any attention,it's like they are worried that someone else might agree so they are on the defensive- not to mention your response was just nothing.
I felt the need to ask you the question because that's part of the game.
To be fair, I think this is an excellent point. I know I do this when I'm scum, without even meaning too.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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I'll do quote by quote. Thanks for the case Oversoul, and good try! I especially enjoyed how you twisted my words, and took things out of context like this first quote... let me begin. I'll split this into Spoiler Points, so that it's not one huge post.
Spoiler: Point One
Spoiler: Point Two
Spoiler: Point Three
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Amrun wrote:Oversoul's case on neil is quite good. He got several things I hadn't noticed.
No it's not, at all. It's stretching, opinionated (with very little facts), biased, tunneled, and wrong. He had actually only 2 real things that he didn't twist and those things were obvious things that could not be pushed left or right, town or scum, without an actual biased.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun wrote:Neil, why are you upset because Oversoul's case is opinion-based? That's what the game is about.
I never said Oversoul's points were invalid and stupid. I admitted two of them were good and I didn't really have much to say to them. However, what upsets me about a case that is purely opinionated, is that opinions can argue all day and still not be any closer to the truth. Perception is a funny thing, but if we try and stick to the facts of what I said, and not what you think I said, or how you think I said it - then I think we could come to a quicker conclusion of rather or not my posts are town or scum motivated.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Does it matter who goes first between Hider and HT? Like would it really have a significance of difference if the Hider went before the HT, and the other way around?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Alright so are we going to start the claiming now?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Waiting for Jake to respond, is it that important to respond? Couldn't we do.. you know... process of elimination? Have everyone claim and if Jake is left, and you only have 2 claimed PR's, then Jake must be the 3rd.
P-Edit, now that I think about it, the problem with this is that if there are 3 PR's, and Jake is one but hasn't claimed, scum can fake claim a PR and practically get away with it for the moment due to the lurker. Would it be a big deal if we moved on to Hider and HT and then all of a sudden get a counter claim of PR's by Jake? While it's not optimal, I don't see it being that difficult to be able to change in the moment depending on how the plan goes...ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oversoul wrote:Just gonna leave me hanging, Quil...? That's cool. I guess.
Anyway, I have already stated that Neil is scum and one of my reasons is that he has continuallytried to hinder the planwhich I feel like he just tried to do again.
Just wish Jakesh would either replace or ... do anything really.
Last time I checked, "trying to rush things" and "trying to hinder the plan" is contradictory... I'm not sure what you're accusing me of anymore.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oversoul wrote:Quilford,I agree on your pointsexcept for Amrun being scummy.
I understood the point of rushing it now. I apologize, I didn't really think through what would happen if we went on without one person. You're right about one thing, I want this day to get moving. It's been boring so far, and I don't think I've ever been in a game where the whole game basically went on pause because one lurker decided not to play. Unless it was like Ly-Lo or something.
As for the quote above, what points? Quilford didn't make any scum-hunting points, or any points at all actually. He simply posted his reactions and responses. There were no cases made, no points delivered, and no facts stated.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oversoul wrote:zMuffinMan wrote:Need a more replacement, so we can get a jakesh replacement. A side note though, he flaked in another of my games (was lynched just recently for reasons unrelated to his flaking, and flipped VT). So it's not like a scum-lurking tactic. Not to say he isn't scum, but that his inactivity isn't a tell of any sort.
Agreed. He is about to be force replaced in another game that I am in so I don't think scum motives are behind his inactivity, just lack of interest.
It could just be things going on in his life stopping him from playing Mafia, not even lack of interest. But I agree that he's about to be replaced in [redacted] and so I can't really take this as a town tell or scum tell. It's null to me.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun wrote:Yes, but he did the posts in order as they appeared organically.
I agree that his method is not very effective, and not one I've seen him employ as any alignment, but that doesn't make him scum. Intent is more important.
It could just be that he's learning and maturing through the game of Mafia, and is figuring out new tactics and ways to play that would make his effort more effective while playing. I don't think it'd be fair to attribute a new playing style that someone brings to the game, due to scumminess (or lack of).ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Quilford wrote:I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: neil1113
Since when was defending someone scummy? And I'm not on the Grey wagon?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Muffin, what's going on dude?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Quilford wrote:neil1113 wrote:Quilford wrote:I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.
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VOTE: neil1113
Since when was defending someone scummy? And I'm not on the Grey wagon?
You didn't "defend", you turned into a friggin' CareBear and protected me with your own life.
You're not on the LittleGrey wagon, yes, but Amrun and Swank are and I want to hear their responses to my previous post before I feel comfortable voting Grey again.
You've got to be kidding me? I turned into a CareBear and protected you, thus it's scummy?
And how does my vote have anything to do with the Grey situation, and who is or is not on the wagon???
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The waiting game... again... :/ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Secret Project wrote:I just wanted to post in this thread on this account cuz it's weird being a hydra with someone then playing under them.
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evilpacman18 wrote:neil1113 wrote:Secret Project wrote:I just wanted to post in this thread on this account cuz it's weird being a hydra with someone then playing under them.
Who are you, exactly?
Are you blind or stupid?
Or it could be I just don't look at Avatars? Is there a reason you had to be insulting, or are you that dense?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Grey hasn't posted in literally 5 1/2 days...@Mod: Prod or something again?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Amrun, I'm really sorry to hear about your father. I'm definitely praying for you and your family as well, and if you can, keep us updated when he's out and better.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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MrBump wrote:In all honesty.. we've spent two weeks doing little to no scumhunting discussing the plan...
See what I mean? But nobody listens to me!!!ShowTotal Games Played:17
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@Mod - I like that idea, do you need a certain amount of people to agree with that in order for you to make that extension, or is it just something you're thinking about doing anyway unless we have strong objections?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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glowball wrote:Can we just lynch Muff--- he's obviously scum, or just annoying town playing against his win condition.
Who would you rather lynch, anti-town or scum? Remember, they aren't always the same thing.
I'm not for policy lynches usually, but there's such a lack of content this game could anyone really make any cases? No pressure or alignment revelations, just waiting and talking about your favorite Disney movie...ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oversoul wrote:neil1113 wrote:glowball wrote:Can we just lynch Muff--- he's obviously scum, or just annoying town playing against his win condition.
Who would you rather lynch, anti-town or scum? Remember, they aren't always the same thing.
I'm not for policy lynches usually, but there's such a lack of content this game could anyone really make any cases? No pressure or alignment revelations, just waiting and talking about your favorite Disney movie...
I am going to assume you think my case on you is still tunneling given the above statement.
What case? I addressed your original suspicions, and then you said "I'm hindering the plan" wait no... "I'm rushing things"... wait, dangitt! No, I'm "hindering the plan!"
If I am indeed bringing delay or obstruction to the plan, which is what hindering means according to Google Definitions, then I could not possibly be trying to rush the plan forward at the same time. So this point cancels itself out. Beyond that, I can't see anything else that I've not addressed? Honestly, I can't see anything that's a case period.
Oh and as for your post here, I just realized you failed to accurately give me any response. You made two posts quoting me afterwards, one in which had nothing to do with the subject and was your vain suggestion that I'm "rushing things" while the first quote was the only quote in which you in any way addressed that I had even made a response.Last edited by MrBump on Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Bahhh, failed tags. :/
Fixed them for you :3Last edited by MrBump on Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:41 am, edited 2 times in total.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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About time... this might go down as the most incredibly boring mafia start ever...ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Big Bad Moddy Man wrote:Tell your friends! Tell your family!
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At this rate, if it keeps up, we'll have a whole new game of players by the start of Night 2.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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EBWOP: Start of Day 2, not Night 2 lol.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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It's pretty obvious either Silver or Muffin are the ones lying. I'm pretty confident in Glow and Oversoul as real PR's. So here's something I propose:
Why don't we ask one of them to claim their role? Whichever one we are more confident in being the liar (which seems to be apparent is Silver from the two) and this way we're not outing all the power roles? When said person claims, we see if we have a counter claim. If not, we lynch the other. If we do, we lynch them? And if we're wrong between Muffin and Silver, and neither turn out to be scum or CC'd, then the vig shoots one of the other two, which then gives the vig a 50/50 chance of hitting scum instead of a 1/4 chance. It nearly guarantees a scum kill by the start of Day 2, and it promises at least one scum revealed by Day 2 as well.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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glowball wrote:I'm torn because zMuffinMan is being extremely scummy and isn't even trying to change his attitude. I am trying to figure out if he's just being a jerk or acting out like childish scum. Either way it's upsetting because if he is town then he's making this harder than necessary.
I can say from my experience with him, he doesn't normally play this way. I think he might be on my level, and just be fed up with all this "talk about playing Mafia" but very little actual playing... He could be scum that's just fed up with it and doesn't care if he gets lynched or not, or he could be town just fed up with it and doesn't care if he gets lynched or not... lol so the whole tell he's acting like right now is null at best unfortunately.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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So on D3, we have potentially 2 PR's dead, 2 PR's still alive, 1 being the fake claiming scum, AND we THEN take the gambit to see which one is scum and which one isn't? So by D4 according to your plan, we potentially have 4 dead townies, including all 3 of the PR's? How is this a better option then my plan, in which we potentially only have to out one PR, and can exchange a PR for a Scum by Day 2?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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So Mr.Bump, I'm going on a Missions Trip this Sat for 3-4 months, at the very least. I'm going to be extremely busy, and I'm not sure how the internet works over there though I'll be bringing my computer. I'm not going to bother you with replacing me right now, as I won't know how the internet and everything will be until I'm there for a couple days and settled in to see. So I'm going to V/LA Sat. - .... Monday maybe? And then depending on how everything goes, I'll let you know if it's possible or not for me to keep up with this game. I'm posting this here so everyone else will know my status as well in this game. I don't want to leave anyone wondering where I am. But I still should be active till Sat!ShowTotal Games Played:17
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zMuffinMan wrote:And.... now we're waiting on replacements to catch up. And we need another one for neil.
Correction...MIGHTneed one for me. We'll see.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Oversoul wrote:I would like to see Neil in the lynch pool if possible.
Why? What would my lynch give, given the circumstance that I'm town to other people that are in this game?ShowTotal Games Played:17
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zMuffinMan wrote:Unvote
OK.
I have some thoughts on this.
First off, though, I want to hear whether people think this is two townies in the lynch pool.
I personally think it is.
Which is why I want to suggest this...
One person from the vig-pool volunteers themselves, we lynch them today, no questions asked.
First bolded I understood your point, you don't want a lynch between the two because they are both likely to be townies. But then you ask someone from the vig-pool to volunteer themselves, which if scum were to do that it'd be playing against their win con... So in turn, we'd have now outed both Andrew and Hoopla as confirmed town (or, more confirmed town then others I should say) and whoever the third person that volunteers themselves, except this time we'll lynch this townie. To who would this benefit Muffin? I don't see how it would help town at all.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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Lol so much WIFOM in your plans Muffin. You might want to really reconsider your reads, or rather how you have drawn conclusions.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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VOTE: Muffinman
Do we not realize the deadline is in 4 days? Muffin is the only sure fire lynch I see here, because if anybody deserves to be lynched this game, it's this kid.
As far as other reads, I don't even know how to address this game. This isn't Mafia, this isn't the game played many times before, this is a plan that has completely reinvented the game and not exactly for the better. In the past 32 pages, you know how many reads one could accurately assess from the information given? Maybe... MAYBE 2. Everything else is luck, guessing, wifom, and all around bull crap. This is not how we play Mafia, and I'm fed up with this plan now. Let's start doing something as the town, and stop letting this "plan" hold us back for any longer. Also, I'm pretty sure Hoopla (when Muffin flips scum) is his partner, it makes so much sense it hurts.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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glowball wrote:I used to think policy lynches were stupid...and then I met zMuffinMan and I stopped caring whether he was town or scum I just wanted him gone.
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chkflip wrote:Muffin can wait. Let's use the plan to our advantage. Hop over to Hoopla.
Not if Muffin keeps playing the way he's playing, he'll be doing the Mafia more of an advantage staying in then any of his other two teammates. Hoopla isn't doing anything anyway, with our luck she'll miss the deadline for the night and we'll have no night kill (besides the vig's.) And if the Vig goes for who we suspect to be the 3rd teammate, I believe this game could be wrapped up before Night 2 even gets here. Lynch Muffin Day 1, Kill 3rd member Night 1, Lynch Hoopla Day 2, and that'd be the game.ShowTotal Games Played:17
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