Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[ToastyToast]

If Ghostwriter reclaimed his spot, why hasn't he said anything/claimed yet?

[Candle Jack]

I actually have my own thoughts on the miller claim. Basically, its only of relevance right now if you think he is the cult recruiter who claimed miller to gain two or three nights to recruit before being lynched out of the game if he wasn't playing well or vigged if he was. To that effect, it makes no difference what sort of miller he claimed as long as it guarantees him several days of time. I'll reread him over to see if I can confirm my feelings or if he has actually been sliding under the radar.

Another thing concerning me here is the lack of people noticing PeregrineV AT ALL, and the way the GW wagon has just.... stopped, so that people can have round about arguments that appear to be leading nowhere. That sort of behavior is what I would expect of a scum or cult wagon when an important power-role is close to being lynched and the player is nowhere in sight/playing badly, a lot of empty rhetoric to derail the wagon at its zenith.

[zMuffinMan]

Another thing concerning me here is the lack of people noticing PeregrineV AT ALL, and the way the GW wagon has just.... stopped, so that people can have round about arguments that appear to be leading nowhere. That sort of behavior is what I would expect of a scum or cult wagon when an important power-role is close to being lynched and the player is nowhere in sight/playing badly, a lot of empty rhetoric to derail the wagon at its zenith.

Oh, I've noticed Peregrine, in-so-far-as you can can notice someone who isn't posting anything.

But I am really sure GW is not town. Whether or not he's CR, mafia or something else, I'm not even considering the possibility that he's going to flip town.

My only problem here is assessing how likely it is that he's actually the CR. And I would really like a CR lynch today.

ftr, these are the people that I'm considering as most likely CRs (and I'd be happy with most of their lynches, some more than others):

- GhostWriter
- PeregrineV
- Oversoul
- Mr. Subliminal
- Kast
ftr, these are the people that I'm considering as most likely CRs (and I'd be happy with most of their lynches, some more than others):

- GhostWriter
- PeregrineV
- Oversoul
- Mr. Subliminal
- Kast

And that's somewhat reflective of the order of my preference for their lynches.

I also feel really uneasy about you, CJ (mostly because I'm starting to read your opposition to the GW wagon as disingenuous - I haven't actually seen you give any sort of valid reason for opposing it), npiau (who's untouchable today due to friend's protection, which he will be explaining when it eventually comes time to massclaim), Blackberry (who keeps going on and on about how he can't be scum because scum wouldn't do what he's doing... AH DURRRRRRRRRRRRR) and WLC (just because he's being generally useless, and I'm starting to questions the town read I had on him).

I want GW to claim and actually post some reads of some sort. Or do anything, really. Just... anything.

[zMuffinMan]

And I also think you're wrong about WHY this wagon stalled, if it wasn't already a given. He's scum.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Sorry for my lack of activity again. Reread a bit, focusing on GW (which wasn't too difficult as he has even less content than I have). The only thing he publicly has done after I said I didn't really saw the GW case was voting me (the second largest wagon at that point, I believe), without reason, just saying 'WLC should be lynched right away, and I don't know why anyone thinks differently'. The other thing he seems to have done is non-publicly responding to the mod that he wants to keep his slot (as per 1570). At least he's consistent there with day 1, but there he lists 'following ooba's train of thought' (post 1091) as part of the reason for voting me. After specifically asking what exactly in ooba's post makes him think I'm the one, he just says 'the post was too long, let me link to it again'...

Unvote. Vote: GW.

That makes L-1 (would be L-2 if tanstalas was serious about his Subliminal vote and would not have forgot to unvote).
GW, if you really reclaimed the spot, I think it's a good time to claim. You've had plenty of time to make something up...

[tanstalas]

This is a blatant prod dodge post.

GW dies, WLC gets the RB by me tonight, nothing has changed.

[Nikanor]

hey guys i just inspected nolynch and got town so let's not lynch him okay??

[Oversoul]

hey guys i just inspected nolynch and got town so let's not lynch him okay??

What the hell? Who is nolynch? And I am getting really fucking confused with your claiming shit.

Also, I am catching up on the 8 pages since I last posted. I haven't been feeling well for the past few days and recent happenings in a few of my games have really put me off from playing mafia. -____-

[SleepyKrew]

I fucking love you Nikanor <3

[zMuffinMan]

5 days. chill.

[Nikanor]

I am getting really fucking confused with your claiming shit.

sigged.

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Ghostwriter (9) -

Nikanor, Friend, Andrius, PeregrineV, inHimshallibe, tanstalas, vezokpiraka, Mr. Subliminal, WeyounsLastClone

WeyounsLastClone (2) -

nopointinactingup, Ghostwriter

vezokpiraka (1) -

hiplop

PeregrineV (1) -

Candle Jack

BlackBerry (1) -

Kast

Not Voting (4) -

Blackberry, ToastyToast, Oversoul, zMuffinMan


With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch and 9 to no lynch.

Deadline for the second lynch expires in:

(expired on 2011-08-27 03:30:00)

V/LAs:

none

PeregrineV and Ghostwriter prodded. Hope everyone had a great weekend, but let's pick up the pace again tomorrow, kay?

[Blackberry]

I am temporarily replacing GhostWriter:

GhostWriter

"Hi guys, I claim mafia, I am a burgandy lantern... but I am not Cult Leader, so go get someone else!"

....

HMMMMMM, thoughts?

[zMuffinMan]

I am temporarily replacing Blackberry while he replaces GhostWriter:

BLACKBERRY

"Hi guys, I'm not voting anyone, I'm not trying to find the CR, I have no real suspicions, but at least I can make useless filler posts... Vig me please!"

....

HMMMMMM, thoughts?

[Mr Subliminal]

zMuffinMan, marry me

hot sex

.

[Blackberry]

I am temporarily replacing Blackberry while he replaces GhostWriter:

BLACKBERRY

"Hi guys, I'm not voting anyone, I'm not trying to find the CR, I have no real suspicions, but at least I can make useless filler posts... Vig me please!"

....

HMMMMMM, thoughts?

You are suggesting the vig to kill me, even though I haven't claimed nor have I finished reading yet and got an opinion on everyone *strikes chin* that doesn't sound townie of you at all, now does it?

Also, I'm waiting for GW to claim so I can hammer or not.

[nopointinactingup]

Something doesn't feel right about the GW wagon. It's too fast to be on scum

Nevertheless,

@Mod:I'm going on VLA for 3 busy days so don't prod me <3 Thanks

Also, my very first opinion of this post was that it was scummy. Perhaps it is the WAY you said it. If you were scum and GW flipped scum, it'd be in use of defense. If you are scum and GW flipped town, this gives you the "I told you so" card that mafia would know about in advance. However, after reading through a bit, I agree this GW thing doesn't seem right to me. At the very least, if we're going for CULT RECRUITER, I don't see any reason for GW to be the Cult Recruiter.

This doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying I'm scum becuz I think GW is town.

I would like nopoint to elaborate on his initial impression. "Something doesn't feel right" I agree with. But your short post makes me feel like you could just be scum saying that so you can either pull out the "I told you so card" or so that if GW is a mafia-partner you can make this short comment and allow OTHERS to agree with you.

IF YOU NOTICED the wagon, especially the further end, NO ONE gave any reason for voting GW but they uninamously and strongly agreed he should be lynched asap. Furthermore, there is NO counter wagon or attempt at counter wagoning pushes. Makes me think this is a coordinate mislynch effort

hiplop is likely Cult Recruiter

Friend was Culted last night

... doing a read on Friend, he reads very likely cult recruit after D1

Wait .. how da fuck do you know Cult can begin to recruit on Night 1 ? In BNM cult didn't even appear till night something

Friend was Culted last night

Someone kill Friend please.
With dignity.

1> Why would you want Friend killed just because someone

speculates

so?
2> Why do you trust and love BB that much?

BB, if Friend cleared nopoint, do you think nopoint is also cult with him?
That makes sense. In Succession I the winning cult recruited the person their Cop investigated the night before.

You r'tard.

If Friend happened to be cult he would have been culted LAST NIGHT. Before that he would have been TOWN and calling me TOWN. NOT that I have any reason to believe he was culted.

I trust BB

. Usually bolded things like that in the form of "so-and-so is scum/cult/mafia/SK" are srs bsns.
So yeah I got all over it. I generally shoot/lynch people who are proven cult/mafia/SK/scum.
So yeah calling for a then-outed cultbag to get shot isn't that appalling.

I knew that hiphop can't be the CR because of the mason shnoz about the whole "we cant be cult". HOWEVER, BB claiming guilty-type on Friend was believeable. (Nevermind the part where MagnaGM flipped Cult Cop- I sure as hell didn't think about that at the time.)

I TOOK IT AS A GUILTY, MAGUA, IF THAT WASN'T PLAIN AND APPARENT.
He didn't say "BAD FEELING" he said "friend was culted last night" which sounds alot like solid info to me, Magua.

Chill out Magua.

You trust BB whatever, but is there any ulterior motive for you to trust HIS READS as well? There's a line between thinking someone is town and someone is right and YOU DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT LINE. In other words, your thoughts are DISTORTED (by scum mentality).

BB dies a painful and horrible death if Friend flips anything except Cult. Even if he somehow flips Mafia, BB dies death. Painful and horrible death.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Friend

But my friend Friend must die a swift and just death first

???

I trust BB

Do you want to kill Hiplop?

And this guy. wtf is going on??

Wow this is fun reads guys keep it up.
Seriously though Friend is not the CR so I don't care if X has a cult guilty on Friend we are not lynching him until the CR is dead. Everyone understands this, yes?
Same goes for Sublim. There is no way the CR would pull a "I'M DA ENTITY" gambit. I have him down as a possible recruit, but again, not lynching him until the CR is dead.

Finally, the voice of fucking reason

I'M GONNA FUCKING CLAIM SUBLIMINAL

DON'T MAKE ME DO IT

DON'T DO IT

FRIEND, DO NOT CLAIM. DO NOT FUCKING CLAIM.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe:

A) Only one person (Andrius) asked Friend to claim
B) Friend isn't anywhere near lynch
C) Friend was accused of being a Cult Recruit, meaning he would have a legitimate claim before he was recruited

...

All that being said, I'm really curious as to why Friend even said "I'LL CLAIM" with barely any reason to. Unless he feels guilt. Do you feel guilt and pressure Friend?

He was drunk. Stop trying to milk a deadcow

But uh yeah, I'm not fucking cult or scum and Blackberry is distracting us from a lynch that should have happened a really long time ago.

QFT, thought I think WLC is much more likely cult than GW

BTW, I'm pretty sure MC can't be Cult Recruiter unless he didn't recruit last night. Writing up my theory as to why right now.

I can see MC as mafia though.

We'll see X_X.

Give me a second to explain my thought process.

Who is MC?

MC = GhostWriter x_x'

...
At least your argument makes sense. But you are probably wrong about Friend.

nopoint is another example of a possible deflection of the GW wagon. He was on the mafia wagon, so I suppose he is a *potential* recruit for culters. I.e., another example of why my original theory is NVM.

And you my friend are also one example of GW wagon deflector. If something is wrong with a wagon I will indicate what is it. You try to look into actions that are considered "non mainstream" and forgets the ppl who lurks behind the mainstream ( hint* Andy hint* ).

vote: bb

Kast this untalkative is strange?
Base on my last experience with BB, I think he's pretty clearly town. But also base on my last experience with him, his reads are pretty bad

Just so y'all know, I'm currently laughing at the bumpkins who believe that Andy, muffinz and Toasty are all town.
JUST SAYIN', Y'KNOW, THAT TOWN PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE THREE BLOCKING ROLES.

One of the roleblockers are prolly mafia though. We can deal with em later. There are more pressing concerns

Although ..

I agree that multiple roleblockers seems fishy Nikanor.

Even I agree with this, but Andrius is the odd one out.

Me thinks Uncultable and Unrecruitable are the same?

Mafia getting culted makes NO sense. Cuz then it'd in the culted mafia's best interest to just REVEAL all their old mafia members X_X.

...

They already said they wouldn't elaborate on it. The difference in the wording means: UNCULTABLE MEANS CAN'T BE CULTED, UNRECRUITABLE MEANS CAN'T BE RECRUITED BY ANY FACTION. It means they are two DIFFERENY things and that there is a mason recruiter. If they were the same thing they'd be the same word. and the mod wouldn't say "the difference is in the wording"...

1> Maybe culted mafia turns serial killer xD
2> "the difference is in the wording ..." thus there's no fundamental difference in gameplay.

But I am really sure GW is not town. Whether or not he's CR, mafia or something else, I'm not even considering the possibility that he's going to flip town.

My only problem here is assessing how likely it is that he's actually the CR. And I would really like a CR lynch today.

If GW was CR he could have tried harder than this lol

Sorry for my lack of activity again. Reread a bit, focusing on GW (which wasn't too difficult as he has even less content than I have). The only thing he publicly has done after I said I didn't really saw the GW case was voting me (the second largest wagon at that point, I believe), without reason, just saying 'WLC should be lynched right away, and I don't know why anyone thinks differently'. The other thing he seems to have done is non-publicly responding to the mod that he wants to keep his slot (as per 1570). At least he's consistent there with day 1, but there he lists 'following ooba's train of thought' (post 1091) as part of the reason for voting me. After specifically asking what exactly in ooba's post makes him think I'm the one, he just says 'the post was too long, let me link to it again'...

Unvote. Vote: GW.

That makes L-1 (would be L-2 if tanstalas was serious about his Subliminal vote and would not have forgot to unvote).
GW, if you really reclaimed the spot, I think it's a good time to claim. You've had plenty of time to make something up...

Lol translated into "Alright anybody, as long as I survive another night ..". This is a perfect example of "trying harder than this lol", but in vain. Vigs should shoot this guy for breakfast, even his avatar looks like he's recruitin'.

I fucking love you Nikanor <3

Wait. Who are you again?

And ONE MORE THING. Andy's mafia and deserve a horrible death for betraying the light

[Kast]

Not seeing GW as cult recruiter, but if that's the only option then I agree he should be claiming now.

[Blackberry]

On iPhone. After thinkin about it if GW was any important power role he would have claimed earlier instead of stalling. I'll probably drop the sledge later tonight if I don't change my mind

[inHimshallibe]

Who do I vote to make this Day end?

[inHimshallibe]

Oh. Well, come on then.

[Nikanor]

GW.

[Andrius]

I'm spending all day working on ACCT and setting up Encore.
inHim just drop the goddamn hammer we've spent enough time lollygagging about.

[inHimshallibe]

already voting :p

[PeregrineV]

Already voting Ghostwriter, so nothing to add there.

Also, is the best way to add to the conversation by throwing out random accusations, or should I spend the time to respond to Candle's "PeregrineV is scum" thing?

@Oversoul- please vote GW and end the day. Thank you.

Why would you put the miller as a possible scum pick, Peregrine? That doesn't make sense.

Vezok, why am I suspicious for being a lurker?

Anyway, Scumpicks would have to be:

WLC
GW
Peregrine