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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:37 am

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Rodion just derailed a claimed scum wagon... because he thinks it's premature? Looking back at what happened before I replaced in, I see a lynch on a JK Day 1 (no big deal at all), a lynch on scum Day 2 and a lynch on more scum Day 3. We now have a sizeable wagon on a claimed scum with Shotty as a candidate for hammer if it turns out that Castle Bravo is a bomb of some kind, but Rodion wants to put it off so I can post something? Seems silly and somewhat scummy.

The fact that I placed an immediate vote on Oversoul in my second post since replacing in should show one of two things:

1. I'm town.

2. I don't give a crap about bussing fellow scum.

Either way, town benefits. Castle Bravo is an obvious lynch. You can worry about me when you don't have a clear scum target. :roll:
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:42 am

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Mysterio is entirely right. There is nothing wrong with the speed, size, or intentions of the wagon, and Rodion just pinged m Scumdar™.
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:54 am

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Rodion's CT. Your Scumdar is broken.
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:59 am

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No. Rodion is confirmed not to have a weapon.
He could be Mafia doctor, SK, or some other third party.

It's just not LIKELY, but don't call him conftown just yet.
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:00 am

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Damn, guys, CB needs to get lynched.

VOTE: CastleBravo
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:10 am

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Day 4 Vote count 2


Castle 8 - Mysterio, MOI, Fourseen, Vezo,THAdmiral, ,Nero,Jester,TheJakalope (L-3)
Shotty 1 - Mera
Mera 1 - Rainbow
Fourseen 1 - Banshee
Rodion 1 - Castle

Not voting


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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:12 am

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SK is unlikely to have been blocked /at least/ two night in a row. Mafia Doctor is unlikely in my eyes.. mainly through the fact we seem to be light on killing roles, which I'm taking from the fact there's only one kill that doesn't fit into either Lynch or Mafia kill.. therefore there's not likely to be a Mafia Doc. Therefore, he's as close to CT as we have right now, and I call a spade a spade.
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:30 am

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Lets get two more votes on Bravo. Wait for Jun's track and Sotty to hammer. If anyone hammers before he does they're scum anyways.
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:42 am

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Banshee wrote:No. Rodion is confirmed not to have a weapon.
He could be Mafia doctor, SK, or some other third party.


Mafia Doctors have guns ... :roll:
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:44 am

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all mafia have weapons I think.
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:47 am

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Nero Cain wrote:all mafia have weapons I think.

Not true, in a lot of games only one scum will have the power to kill.
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:50 am

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Mafiascum role description wrote:The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor. Members of the Mafia
(that are not Doctors)
, Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.


This should not be construed to mean that I think Rodion is a Mafia doctor. I think he's probably town and that I was wrong. But he's not CONFIRMED town, nor are any of the others until Shotty flips town or scum imo.
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:56 am

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Even Shotty hasn't confirmed anyone. He's stated roles, not alignments. Vanilla could be Goon for example, since they're functionally the same, just on different sides..
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:58 am

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Magna > Did Chk confirm anyone else? If so, don't tell us who, but if it's a guilty, we do rather need to know. If there's an innocent, it's your call whether to tell us.
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:00 am

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David Xanatos wrote:Even Shotty hasn't confirmed anyone. He's stated roles, not alignments. Vanilla could be Goon for example, since they're functionally the same, just on different sides..

..... The role I got back was Vanilla Townie
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:04 am

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Since this is a theme game, it's reasonable to believe DMSIS got back the full role name of his investigations.

We still need some people to get in here before we hammer CB. For instance, Junpei and his tracker result.
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:37 am

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Told ya they don't believe in godfathers rod.

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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:42 am

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@Mod: Can we have a prod on Junpei please?


I know it hasn't been all that long, but we need his results.

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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:07 pm

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Questions to
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1 - Do you believe Shotty's claim?
2 - Do you think Castle Bravo should already have been lynched by now and the derailing of his wagon that just took place is negative?

A simple yes or no will suffice, but feel free to elaborate if you want to. Please answer both questions;
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:10 pm

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1: No. I don't completely disbelieve it.. I think it's a failed gambit he's clawing desperately at.
2: To an extent, yes, but I see the merit in getting the Tracker information and potentially a Guilty from Chkballin's role.
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:14 pm

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Let me ammend question #1: if you partially believe in Shotty's claim, please specify what you believe and what you don't.
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:24 pm

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I'm still thinking about that.. I have a few thoughts but I want to ISO him again before I put it down. I'd rather take the time than look like an idiot..
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:34 pm

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Rodion wrote:Questions to
everyone
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1 - Do you believe Shotty's claim?
2 - Do you think Castle Bravo should already have been lynched by now and the derailing of his wagon that just took place is negative?

A simple yes or no will suffice, but feel free to elaborate if you want to. Please answer both questions;

1.no
2.yes , I think he should have been lynched already.

David Xanatos wrote:1: No. I don't completely disbelieve it.. I think it's a failed gambit he's clawing desperately at.
2: To an extent, yes,
but I see the merit in getting the Tracker information and potentially a Guilty from Chkballin's role
.

If Chk had found a gun on any of his targets MOI would have said something.
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:55 pm

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@mod
- Are andrew and oversoul from the same faction? One is called scum and one mafia but they are same color flip.

Rodion wrote:1 - Do you believe Shotty's claim?
2 - Do you think Castle Bravo should already have been lynched by now and the derailing of his wagon that just took place is negative?


1 - Not at this point.
2 - No. Junpei (who is quickly starting to go up the needs to be lynched list) needs to give track results. Also we need to have a specific pony hammer CB.

For other things.

Meransial is scum with Oversoul. This comes through interactions being limited entirely to

Oversoul wrote:Meransiel - nothing from him for quite a while. Null. Prod dodges. Gives no reason for inactivity. Yay... Doesn't seem to actually want to participate in this game and instead says, tell me when I am tunnelled so I am forced to defend myself. Mersan seems lazy and the conversation between him and Junpei looks like TvT

Meran wrote:Currently Oversoul and Silver are on Pine. Dunno about oversoul, don't really care right now. But I think silver is scummy so my theory works. I don't like the wagon on Leon, because as I said I ISO'd him and found nothing wrong. Wait, Oversoul for prod? Oh, he must've just parked his vote. Maybe they're both scum.

Very nice little stance of oversoul being off, but somepony else being more scummy then him for doing the same thing. Same pony that all flipped scum have been trying to lynch since the start of this game.
Meran wrote:Ok so Oversoul back with the big guns after a well deserved prod. Let's see what he says. Hmm...his reads are mostly null or town. Though I like the fact that he's voting silver. Null slightly leaning town.

Remember that post that was really scummy from Oversoul? Yeah Meran is using it as a town tell here. Next you hear of him he is voting after the claim.

Junepi should be looked at sometime soon too. He is probably a tracker but easily could be a scum one at this point. If Meran is town, that rockets Jun up the lynch list.

Vezokpiraka has recently joined the ranks of solid town with her last few posts. Rodin is obviously in as well.

@Nieghbors - Who suggested a Rodin investigation?
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:58 pm

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Meransiel wrote:
Castle Bravo wrote:Geez, if I didn't know you were town that'd be scummy.


I c what u did thar.

Ok this will sound VERY HYPOCRITICAL coming from me but can we stop with the fucking gambits?


This needs to be explained too. Like how it is hypocrital to Meran who I can't understand how they are running a gambit here.
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