Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Nikanor]

I FUCKING JAILKEPT Nikanor last night
That means ... he couldn't have gotten a result on me

I'm not making unfounded assumptions, Kast. This is pretty clear that Toasty was pushing the idea that I couldn't have had a result on him because he jk'd me last night.

1) He couldn't have gotten a result on me during the day because I am town so I know he's lying

This is implausible. Look at the above quote. If Toasty hadn't included the "That means" in his claim, then this conclusion would be possible.

This is BAD logic. Correction: If he were town who jk'd me because he thought I was a day cop, he would have KNOW I was lying when I claimed he wasn't town. Thus he would have KNOWN I was a liar, and should (and did) call me out on it.

Even if he were mafia, he'd have known that I was lying. The thing I'm trying to point out is that he was trying to make me look bad in what he thought was a 1 on 1.

Here, I'll make a little flowchart thingy for you guys to show you why Toasty is scum. If Toasty were town, this would have had to be his thought process:
n1)

Okay, Nik claimed day cop. That means he probably doesn't have any night actions and is a likely kill target. I'll jailkeep him tonight so that he can get another result tomorrow.

<-- I don't have any problem with this. This is a completely logical way of thinking. My problem is with the following....
d2)

Okay, Nik claimed a guilty result on me. But wait, that's impossible! I blocked him last night!

<-- This is where the problem lies. The jump from thinking that I am a night cop instead of a day cop is completely illogical. If you jailkeep someone because you think they have a day-acting role, you don't magically forget the next day that they're a day-acting role. There is no logical conclusion other than that he was trying to make me look bad.

[Candle Jack]

meh, Nikanor, I don't think toasty is the play today regardless, he has a very very low chance of flipping cult recruiter, who we want to be lynching as soon as possible over possible mafia candidates.

Mass claiming of any sort is still very bad. I'll basically skimmed the last five pages, but that looked to be the upshot of what several players are trying to do.

I'm not a big fan of GhostWriter coming in, noticing the second largest wagon on WLC, and then voting it, yet I still think he isn't the right lynch. And of course, PeregrineV still draws breath.

[Nikanor]

meh, Nikanor, I don't think toasty is the play today regardless, he has a very very low chance of flipping cult recruiter, who we want to be lynching as soon as possible over possible mafia candidates.

I'm not voting for Toasty, am I?
Is Tar still around or has he flaked from site again?

[inHimshallibe]

Did not like Subliminal's skrewing around with the Friend vote and such.

[Nikanor]

Did not like Subliminal's skrewing around with the Friend vote and such.

Thanks for your valuable input, chief. See you in another week.

[Kast]

Nik, you are correct. He

is

logically inconsistent there.

[ToastyToast]

Your missing the point Nikanor. What I thought is irrelevant to what could have actually happened. You claimed a cop investigation on me early in the day, and it seemed as if you were suggesting a result at night. This is impossible. Bottom line is that I DID THE RIGHT THING by claiming, because doing so reveals that what you were saying was complete BULLSHIT, and if I hadn't claimed, I am 90% certain that I would be getting lynched today.
1)Stop pointing out a contradiction that ISNT a contradiction
2) Why this sudden upsurge in trying to get me lynched?
3) I hope you realize that anyone who has just been the target of a cop claim, town or scum, is bound to argue about why it cannot possibly be true.

YOU SHOULD LOOK BAD YOUR GAMBIT WAS A FUCKIN JOKE AND PISSED ME OFF

FOR THE LAST TIME:
I DID NOT THINK YOU HAD A NIGHT ACTION. YOU CLAIMED A COP RESULT. You used the word

I

. We know that your fake daycop was a "mason" ability. The logical thing to do when someone claims something that is impossible on multiple fronts is to counter-claim and explain why it was impossible. This is why I hate gambits. A failed one always leads to the perpetrator to adamantly say he was right and that it worked.

I reacted because I was being called a SK, which I know is not true and which would've been an impossible thing to get. Not to mention that with a CULT COP, a DAY COP IS REALLY FUKIN UNREALISTIC (not to mention that there is no way that would be more than one-shot with your bulletproof lie that made me do a stupid NA in the first place).

Nikanor, you have lied on multiple occassions, and I'm not going to believe anything you say at this point.

[vezokpiraka]

Why are you posting so much spam?

Lynch someone already.

I didn't find anything worthwhile in the last few pages.

[Nikanor]

I cannot believe you caught me Nikanor.

Well I've had you caught for a while so you should have realized by now that you're not getting away with being scum.

You must be the best scumhunter ever.

Uh, I'm okay I guess. I'm not Paragon-level, but I like to think I'm on the upper end of average at least.

Can I bear your children?

I thought you were male?

[Andrius]

Just so y'all know, I'm currently laughing at the bumpkins who believe that Andy, muffinz and Toasty are all town.
JUST SAYIN', Y'KNOW, THAT TOWN PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE THREE BLOCKING ROLES.

I'd cite otherwise, but that was

my

game and was chaos in the RB-Doc department on purpose. >_>

[Andrius]

Toast stop being so prickish.
Nik's God here.

[Andrius]

GOD WHERE ARE ALL OF THE MULTI-QUOTE THINGS? I HIT THE BUTTON.
HOW DOES THIS MAGICK WORK???

Doing this by hand

Speaking of Toasty being scum, I just realized something.

I FUCKING JAILKEPT Nikanor last night
That means
1) He couldn't have gotten a result on me

I also figured that, if town, you wouldn't have any more additional powers. The "cop" thing happened in the day, and you lost your bulletproof. In my mind I was essentially giving you back bulletproof status.

Post 1: At the time of Toasty's claim on early d2, Toasty claims that I couldn't have had a guilty on him because he blocked me AT NIGHT.
Post 2: Toasty claims that he blocked me n1 because he didn't think that I would have any abilities in addition to DAYcop.

If Post 1 is honest, Post 2 is false. If Post 2 is true, Post 1 is dishonest. This is what I call a CONTRADICTION, and it makes Toasty 100% confirmed scum.
I thank all of you in advance for your votes on the Toasty wagon tomorrow.
As for the people who called me stoopid for my fake guilty on Toasty... well, I guess a hater is going to hate. The haters will be forgiven provided they vote for Toasty tomorrow.

Did not like Subliminal's skrewing around with the Friend vote and such.

[Nikanor]

lol?

[Nikanor]

You hit the Q+ button on everything you want to quote and then hit a quote button when you're done.

[Andrius]

Mr. S. Unless I was misdirected Andy CANNOT be the CR. I have said this before. Please pay attention. I am almost 100% he is not CR. Mafia maybe but not CR.

Speaking of Toasty being scum, I just realized something.

I FUCKING JAILKEPT Nikanor last night
That means
1) He couldn't have gotten a result on me

I also figured that, if town, you wouldn't have any more additional powers. The "cop" thing happened in the day, and you lost your bulletproof. In my mind I was essentially giving you back bulletproof status.

Post 1: At the time of Toasty's claim on early d2, Toasty claims that I couldn't have had a guilty on him because he blocked me AT NIGHT.
Post 2: Toasty claims that he blocked me n1 because he didn't think that I would have any abilities in addition to DAYcop.

If Post 1 is honest, Post 2 is false. If Post 2 is true, Post 1 is dishonest. This is what I call a CONTRADICTION, and it makes Toasty 100% confirmed scum.
I thank all of you in advance for your votes on the Toasty wagon tomorrow.
As for the people who called me stoopid for my fake guilty on Toasty... well, I guess a hater is going to hate. The haters will be forgiven provided they vote for Toasty tomorrow.

Did not like Subliminal's skrewing around with the Friend vote and such.

lol?

You hit the Q+ button on everything you want to quote and then hit a quote button when you're done.

IT WORKED.

You ARE a god, Nik. <3

[Blackberry]

Kast:

A)

Do you even know what flailing is? I believe flailing is only done by someone who is about to get lynched. Am I about to get lynched? No. So saying I am flailing makes no sense.

B)

In what context does it make sense for me to be 'flailing' when nobody is voting me?

C)

If I was anti-town in any way, wouldn't it make sense for me to shut-the-eff-up and let GW get lynched so as not to draw suspscion?

The ONLY context in which 'me flailing' = 'me scum' is if GW is my Cult Recruiter and I'm cult, in which case, you would vote GW and not ME. In other words, your vote on me makes absolutely no sense. If you were intelligent you'd realize it makes no sense for me to quote 'flail' if I was scum. Actually, I guess it *might* make sense if Friend was mafia and I was his partner too. However, in either context, 'me flailing' doesn't make sense unless Friend is also scum, in which case you would vote Friend, not me. The fact you are voting me makes no sense whatsoever.

D)

Lastly, as I said before, I've only been accused of 'flailing' as TOWN. I can go and find those two games. In my games when I'm mafia I do NOTHING of the sort. Explain that to me. I just said I've only been accused of flailing when I'm town yet you say "You're flailing I'm going to vote you."

E)

I never said I had a PR and tried to get anyone else lynched. If I wanted to, I could have easily done so.

Andrius, if you're a vig or whatever, kill Kast.

Best-case scenario he is anti-town. Worst-case scenario he is an idiotic town. Either way he is absolutely better to us dead because he is an effing moron.

** The only reason it makes sense for Kast to be voting me is if he is mafia/anti-town who wants to look like he suspects me, so what does he do? He votes me to back-up the fact that he suspects me so no one says "If you suspect Blackberry why aren't you voting him". HOWEVER, if he was a logical thinking TOWNIE, him accusing me of 'flailing' only makes sense if FRIEND is anti-town. Thus, he is not a townie because he lacks the logical flow of a townie... And if he is a townie, he's a complete idiot.

[Blackberry]

Hmmmm, I iso'ed Andrius or w/e you call it and he says he isn't a vig several times. Yet I recall skimming and someone saying Andrius is a vig. I am confused =D.

[Andrius]

I'm not a Vig.
I've said that at least thrice.
It was Peregrine who thought I was.

And someone else who thought the OLC was a group of vigs. LOL 3 town vigs = LOLOP.

[Blackberry]

LOL, I was looking for Dana's wiki to see a history of past modded games to get an idea of what type of settups she does.

I saw this:

"danakillsu is a very different kind of Mafia player, preffering to

express his opinions on whatever jumps out to him

, no matter how it looks to others."

This reminds me of me. I think I will be dana's favorite player <3.

[tanstalas]

I'm also wondering if we shouldn't track inHim, claimed miller seems like a nice claim for a CR

[Blackberry]

I'm also wondering if we shouldn't track inHim, claimed miller seems like a nice claim for a CR

Why would a CR claim miller cuz then he'll come up as innocent to a cop and it's known he was lying about being a miller... X_X

[Blackberry]

Actually, inHim, what exactly does your role say about being a miller?

[Andrius]

I don't think he'd claim RED miller, Tans, as black CR.
If he were CR I think he'd claim BLACK Miller as that's what he'd investigate to a Cult Cop, yes?
If he were scum he'd claim RED miller because as that's what he'd investifate to a Mafia Cop.

[Blackberry]

Also... something fishy about the 'Masonary' ... although I haven't actually read it to see what was claimed.

Last game there was a MASON RECRUITER.

Someone came up UNRECRUITABLE instead of UNCULTABLE.

I.e., there is a Mason Recruiter... which means there is NOT a masonary consisting of 3+ people at this point.

[Andrius]

I think dana said Unrecruitable = Uncultable somewhere earlier in D2.

Well of course there's something fishy about a masonry of FIVE.
Again, there is no MASONRY just lol_Masonry.