Mini 1186: Repo! The Genetic Mafia - Game Over!

[Thor665]

Well, I'll admit fluffwise both Marni an Shiiloh being in the game makes zero sense *and* they are our current lynch pool - which makes me feel good.

@camn - aw, c'mon, someone we're 'cleared' is probably scum, that's the way it always works. Most of our current clears are relational anyway - and that doesn't work for an SK.

[Thor665]

Not SK:

Thor - for being obv. town.
Bvoight - for targeting someone who didn't die who the bodyguard also didn't target.
Incog - for being Mason.
Camn - for being watcher

Yeah, so we're already in a 50/50 to hit the SK.

Not scum;

Thor - for being obv. town.
Incog - for being Mason.
At least one of Camn/bvoight - because otherwise that way lies insanity.

Pine/xofelf seems more likely at a glance to be scum due to save of Trip via - lol, work!
Of the two PRs I look slightly more askance at Camn but admit her little wifom point of bvoight being alive strikes me as a solid reasoning point.
Haylen seems more likely SK because all her current town tells are relational to how she interacted with scum.

I like our odds on the lynch today.

[Thor665]

Probably only one actual mafia scum left.
I would expect it to be a power role of some flavor.

Haylen/xofelf - whichever of you is the SK isn't winning - wanna claim and help coordinate with us to get scum? Might be the only way you last long enough to get to a Kingmaker situation which is your only chance right now.

[bvoigt]

Nobody else was claiming names.

^ Opportunistic vote noted.

I'm Marni Wallace.

Who didn't?

[xofelf]

I already told you, I'm Shiloh and i'm vanilla town.
@Haylen: Marni, really? Did you just pull that character name out of a hat? Thor's right, the odds of Marni and Shiloh both being in a game are unlikely.

[Thor665]

@xofelf - are you the SK? I'll sheep you if you are.

[camn]

Hmph.
I am bored:

Spoiler: CLAIMS

1.

Thor665

Pavi Largo - VANILLA TOWN


2.

xofelf

Shilo Wallace - VANILLA TOWN


5.

bvoigt

Blind Mag -

Town JailKepper

7.

Incognito

Gentern -

Mason

8.

camn

Band Leader -

Town Watcher

9.

Haylen

Marni Wallace - VANILLA TOWN

Spoiler: Left The Opera (Dead)

3. PeregrineV -

Luigi Largo, Vanilla Townie

- lynched D1.


6. Magua -

Rotti Largo, Bodyguard

- shot N1
.

10. Battle Mage -

Amber Sweet, Goon

- "anatomy" removed N1.


4. Green Crayons -

Graverobber, Vanilla

- shot N2.


12. TripMyWire -

DJ Granny, Goon

- lynched D3.


11. Medicated Lain -

Vanity & Vein News Reporter, Vanilla

- speech box removed N3.


13. Yosarian2 -

Gentern, Mason

- shot N3.

AAANNND.. I dont believe Haylen's claim at all. The dead mom isn't in this game. But the Husband.. his obsession for her has never died... That is who Haylen is.

And xoftel is scum. The leader of the scumgroup in fact.

So.. our course is clear.

We lynch one of them.
I say Xofl.
Then bvoit jailkeeps the other.
Then we lynch the other one.
Then, if by some miracle the game is still afoot.. it will be me, Incog, and Thor left alive.. and we will be locked in a LYLO deathmatch of the ages.

[Thor665]

Lylo with a mason? That would actually be easy - we'd lynch you.

[Haylen]

Personally, I think we should lynch xofelf tonight since it seems either me or her and then camn can watch me. Then when there is a kill, she can confirm that I didn't do it.

[Thor665]

You're thinking tracker, not Watcher - A JK on you while a kill happens would clear you of that kill though.
From your perspective the xofelf lynch would clear you though - why even worry about the situation after that?
Would you like to claim SK? I'd sheep you in hunting scum.

[camn]

Lylo with a mason? That would actually be easy - we'd lynch you.

Trust me, we'd lynch YOU.

[Haylen]

I don't fakeclaim as town. It goes against my win-con. I also always get tracker and watcher mixed up -_- Oh! The lynch would clear me because I'd be jailkeeped during the night thereby blocking the 'none' I send into mods as Nilly >.<

@Haylen: Marni, really? Did you just pull that character name out of a hat? Thor's right, the odds of Marni and Shiloh both being in a game are unlikely.

No, the mod pulled it out of random.org. I know nothing about the film, haven't researched it due to busi-ness and thus don't get why Marni and Shiloh being in the game would be unlikely.

[Thor665]

Lylo with a mason? That would actually be easy - we'd lynch you.

Trust me, we'd lynch YOU.

Not when you think a lylo with a mason, you, and 'other guy' is an epic event. That's an easy event.
Why do you think we should lynch the obv. scum prior to the obv. SK? You even flat out called Haylen's claim a liar claim...based on the nameclaim of someone you're calling scum and voting for, so...?

@Haylen - Shiloh = kid Marni = Mom who died in childbirth.
Thus...kinda super unfluffy to have them both alive.

What are your current reads? You're town who's probably gonna be mislynched today so you should probably get those out asap, because I'm about to scream, cuss, and lob around my e-peen to speedlynch you tomorrow.

[Haylen]

Why would you speedlynch somebody tomorrow, when you think they would get mislynched (and are therefore town) today? That doesn't sit well with me. I think camn is a little bit too excited at the prospect of lynching myself and xofelf then offing you the next day interesting to note that she doesn't expect the investigative role to be killed during the night since the jailkeeper wont be protecting her. Incog's just blatantly ran away which is optimum play for scum during late game (according to Vi). And Bvoigt isn't being much use either. You're all giving me scum vibes in some way or form so i'm not sure who. My first instinct would be to lynch camn on the 3rd day if we lynch Xofelf today, me tomorrow and her the next. As long as town can pull this out of the bag, I don't care if I'm dead.

Just so you know, when you jailkeep me, the mafia/SK left (if xofelf is scum) wont shoot in order to get a mislynch on me tomorrow. I'm gathering this is why you're going to speedlynch me and have already decided on it. You didn't think that idea through, it's quite anti-town.

Yeh, Marni's dead. I appear in pictures or something. I'm going to presume that the film has that whole funky moving picture thing like in Harry Potter.

[camn]

Trust me, it would be epic. You would be trying so hard to get me lynched, and you would fail.

ANYWAY...
The obv scum has votes on him. That is all.
I would go with a Haylen lynch too, if you could get everyone in here to vote.

@Haylen: you answered your own question.
I figure either the JK will keep the last killing role.. and there will be no-kill..
Or the last killing role will no-kill in order to frame whoever the JK kept.. and there will be no kill.

Either way... its a Thor/Incog/camn endgame if we were wrong about thor.. and a thor/camn/bvoigt endgame if we were wrong about bvoit. I am too scummy to kill. (my strategy all along?)

[Thor665]

@Haylen - did you happen to notice that Incog claimed mason? Also, a lot of your reads are spur of the moment 'this page' type of reads, and feel super weak. You also fail to grok my sarcasm...which happens to a lot of people, but - hey - that's half the point of the sarcasm.

[Thor665]

Trust me, it would be epic. You would be trying so hard to get me lynched, and you would fail.

If you're scum, my advice to you is to kill me prior to endgame.

[camn]

If YOU are scum... it is to late.
There is no advice that can help you now.
You failed to kill me night 1, and now your are gerrymandered in to playing the game my way.

Kill me now? Guaranteed loss for you.
Let me live? Guaranteed loss for you.

[Haylen]

Is it neighbours or masons that are confirmed to each other?

[camn]

Masons.
But based on Yos' PLAY, I like Incog for town on role-based alone.

If they were not confirmed... Yos would have made that clear.

[Incognito]

Reading over the last few pages, I kinda like camn's WIFOM thing about her not being scum - it makes me feel better about her alignment.

I also had an interesting revelation with respect to bvoigt - since bvoigt claims that he jailkept Green Crayons on Night 1, I'm thinking that bvoigt stands a very very very strong chance of being town. Here's why: I think the scum probably thought Green Crayons was a vig and that's probably why they killed him on Night 2. I mean, I know that when I saw the BM kill I too thought GC was the most likely to be a vig considering the massive case he laid out against BM pretty much from the start. If bvoigt was a scum Jailkeeper/Roleblocker, he would have known that it couldn't have been GC who killed BM (since he targeted him on Night 1) and so it wouldn't have made sense for a hypo bvoigt-scum to have targeted GC for the kill on Night 2. Does this make sense?

Because of all this, yeah, I think the mafia/SK has to be in {xofelf, Haylen, Thor}. I'd guess Haylen as the SK since she's pretty much always SK and xofelf as mafia. Thor still seems pretty town to me. As long as he is, I think we can lynch one of Haylen/xofelf Today and then the other Tomorrow for the win.

vote: xofelf

Anyone have any thoughts about what happened to the second kill on Night 2? I could see it being a case of someone just not getting a chance to submit a Night action. With Pine's and Haylen's poor activity levels, I could see either one potentially having the same issue.

I'm pretty sure there's a good way to optimize our Night actions - I have to read over one of my old games to see if the situation is similar enough to do it the same way we did it there.

[InflatablePie]

D4 VC #2 - The L'dramtico Entrance Votecount

[3] xofelf - bvoigt, camn, Incognito
[1] Haylen - xofelf
[2] Not Voting: Thor665, Haylen

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 to No Lynch.
Deadline is Saturday, August 27th at 4am EST.
Please point out any votecount mistakes.

[xofelf]

I realize that Pine's play doesn't lend any confidence in anything i do. So why would i claim to be something i'm not since i know Pine posted scummy all the time he was here and you all want to lynch me for it.
If you feel you must lynch me, fine. You're lynching more town.

[Thor665]

Other than AtE is there a reason not to lynch you?
Where did I go wrong in my case that narrowed you down as a SK suspect?
If Haylen 100% has to be SK who is the last Mafia and why?

There are things you can be doing that are more helpful to town than just lambasting us and moaning.

[bvoigt]

Nobody else was claiming names.

Who didn't?

Serious question, BTW.

I realize that Pine's play doesn't lend any confidence in anything i do. So why would i claim to be something i'm not since i know Pine posted scummy all the time he was here and you all want to lynch me for it.
If you feel you must lynch me, fine. You're lynching more town.

This seems like a scum reaction to me. Like Thor said, you're not trying to help the town by giving your reads before you die...all you're trying to do here is stay alive.