TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Junpei]

The last two are exactly the same.

[Rainbowdash]

@DX - Post claim (before andrew would have been behind Oversoul and Peregrine)

Andrew, Oversoul, Peregrine, Hipaddict, Izak. Meran and CB are also great lynches. Those seven need soon death.

[David Xanatos]

I'll join you in that.

UNVOTE: Andrew

Shotty. Answers. Now.

[Rainbowdash]

I think the lynch is still andrew regardless of what DMSIK says here, so the lynch remains the same. Outting more info before night is going to just give scum more of a "shoot here" sign.

[Junpei]

I think the lynch is still andrew regardless of what DMSIK says here, so the lynch remains the same. Outting more info before night is going to just give scum more of a "shoot here" sign.

What if I were to say... I'd be willing to lynch shotty if her explanation is terrible?

[Rainbowdash]

I think the lynch is still andrew regardless of what DMSIK says here, so the lynch remains the same. Outting more info before night is going to just give scum more of a "shoot here" sign.

What if I were to say... I'd be willing to lynch shotty if her explanation is terrible?

I would have to smack you.

[Junpei]

Question: Do you or do you not see the clear contradiction in thought patterns by shotty?

Question: Do you or do you not see the reasoning for hard claiming cop in the situation shotty claimed in?

Question: Do you think shotty is town?

[David Xanatos]

You'd smack someone want wanting to lynch a cop fakeclaim?

[David Xanatos]

Junpei, it's not a Cop hardclaim, unless for some bastardmoddery reason we have a cop who can investigate every night AND day. :/

[Junpei]

Okay, it's an investigation role that gets guilties and 2 rolecops hardclaim.

Ok wait let me recover from laughing before I go on.

Aheh, okay answer my questions rainbowdash, this game isn't bastard.

[Rainbowdash]

Question: Do you or do you not see the clear contradiction in thought patterns by shotty?

Question: Do you or do you not see the reasoning for hard claiming cop in the situation shotty claimed in?

Question: Do you think shotty is town?

I see the odd parts, I don't agree with the timing but I would be on him being town.

He didn't claim standard cop. He claimed something else if you spend maybe five minutes reading his posts. You wonder why I kept trying to stop people from pressuring him for read justification? This is why. While im pretty sure he is at least in part lying, there are some things from him that in no way came from scum. Should I point out where he claimed earlier? I mean, there is one little thing I don't get, but scum butchering the claim this bad? Nah. If you want him to clarify some stuff fine since he claim is a little convoluted, but that pony is probably town. There is ONE thing that makes me wonder a little, but its a site meta arguement.

[David Xanatos]

"a little convoluted"?

He's claimed a Guilty on one, and heavily implies an Innocent on two others.

[David Xanatos]

Strike that. He's apparently claiming a Cop/Rolecop spawn of God himself. He claims a

GUILTY

and then that you two are

VTs

..

[Junpei]

I buy part of his claim. But not all of it. That said I won't lynched on his word.

Ugh.

Damnit, I might see what he's doing. No harm in killing andrew I suppose.

[David Xanatos]

Which part do you buy?

And do you have any idea why Andrew kept referring to you in the context of determining people's alignments?

[Junpei]

vote andrew

L-2 I believe.

David, I hate crypticness, but in this case I will have to stay silent. I don't like the way this day is ending.

Also I don't know what my schedule is like tonight and tomorrow could be completely gone but should find a way back.

[David Xanatos]

Okay. I'm willing to trust your judgement on staying silent.. but whichever side of that claim, if any, is true, he's shot us in the foot by revealing himself for no reason.

[Junpei]

Okay. I'm willing to trust your judgement on staying silent.. but whichever side of that claim, if any, is true, he's shot us in the foot by revealing himself for no reason.

I agree. I still do not condone him outing himself in this manner, although I see the reason now.

[Castle Bravo]

This is actually L-1 if you consider Shotty unvoted Silver and voted Andrew.

I agree that a lynch is not good until we get some explanations from Shotty, so UNVOTE: Andrew for now.

FISH HARDER, LITTLE SCUMBAG

FISH HARDER

[David Xanatos]

How exactly is wanting an explanation of a very suspect claim "fishing"?

[Castle Bravo]

I'd so suspect Shotty of being a derp, except for all the wonderful scumreads tripping over themselves to put on their waders and grab their rods.

PEDIT: David, you're an idiot. Can you roleblock a day action? A night action? MATH, David, think a little, for once. You post so much, and you think so goddamn little. Why is MoI scum, David? Can you tell me?

[David Xanatos]

On B8 (Contest Board, GameFAQs), we did actually have Day-Roleblockers. So yes, and yes. And frankly, I don't see MoI as Scum. You haven't made a case on him. At all. Hell, you didn't even mention him until 2 and a half hours ago.

[David Xanatos]

Also, we've been through 2 day phases (We're nearing the end of the second, it can pretty much be considered "over") and only one Night phase. Shotty only delivered one read of Guilty/Innocent, and two of apparent Rolecop results. That implies either a night Cop or day Rolecop. He also declared MoI a "VT". So he's either a day Rolecop, and lying about Andrew to push the lynch, Night Cop, and lying about MoI and Rainbow, or he's neither, and is a troll.

[Castle Bravo]

On B8 (Contest Board, GameFAQs), we did actually have Day-Roleblockers. So yes, and yes. And frankly, I don't see MoI as Scum. You haven't made a case on him. At all. Hell, you didn't even mention him until 2 and a half hours ago.

So you don't see any advantage to the mafia knowing what they need to use?

And I didn't really mention it because:

A) I wasn't 100% until his last few posts (sloppy, sloppy, MoI)
B) I can't convince you doinks to lynch Rodion, MoI scum on day 2?

How about no?

The one person I can get to vote for scum is VezokPiraka. At the moment, he's deep in the upper half of town players in terms of quality. You ain't.

[David Xanatos]

1: You're assuming they have a roleblocker.
2: You're assuming they don't have an Assassin or similar role.
3: You're assuming Rodion and MoI are Scum, despite others being rather town on Rodion and solidly Town on MoI.