TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Pinky and the Brain]

Slight disclaimer: The below post

may

contain parts which contain snooping on a level that some people consider unfair (not me!)

Merans's logic for attacking shotty but not izak is, well, shoddy.

It's shoddy and shitty - and when you mix those two words, you get

shotty

!

teehee words r fun

I'm pretty sure shotty's reputation is more widespread than mine.

^^ This a million times.

Also, I didn't play with shotty before, so I wouldn't know.

The implication being you knew nothing of his playstyle/history...


Meran: firstly, links to completed games with izak plz.

Secondly, you've seriously not heard about shotty's reputation on this site?

<---- SCEPTICAL

So, sceptical Hoppster went about a-snooping, and:

Given your posting in F62* [people clicking the link should change the options at the foot of the page to sort by Forum rather than Post Time] (not specifically referring to any post yet but rather the fact that you post and therefore browse F62), I verrrrrrrry much doubt that you were unaware of the general site perceiving his play in a negative manner (after all shotty-related drama has cropped up more than once).

Most damning was this paticular post:

So as a lot of people may know I may be perma's today :/, and while I don't agree with that choice, if I step back and look at my original ban I notice two things. First is that it wasn't that bad of a ban, and the second is that I deserved it. I broke site guidelines and I was an ass whole in general. I'm sorry to the entire site...

[...]

...and until I feel comfortable posting here again, knowing that I won't blow up or rage or insult someone for the hell of it, I am gone. Thank you MafiaScum for all of the fun you have brought me over the last year, but on my scum day I must leave. Good bye.

good fuck off

So, basically, either there was this person announcing his departure and you thought it'd be :LOLFUNNY: to tell him to fuck off despite not knowing anything about this person('s negative perception on-site) - or, more likely, you certainly did know about shotty's site-rep (hence :FUCKOFF:), and therefore

your strong implication that you knew nothing of shotty's playstyle is bullshit

.


*Those of you with no F62 access: firstly, LOL U⁺; secondly, I've included the most relevant quotes so you don't miss out. Just take my word for the rest of it.

⁺I'm sure you'll work out how to access it if you try enough

~ Hoppster

[Pinky and the Brain]

Damn forgot to add this last bit. >___>

izak: how the hell did you see my post to respond to Meran's insults of you but then NOT see/answer my request which is now being repeated for a third time?

Spoiler: HERE IT IS YET AGAIN

@Junpei yes.

@ThAdmiral but you would still lynch me as a second choice? What have I actually done wrong? I know I've not been most useful but I don't see anything of mine as especially scummy, so please enlighten me.

ohai i remember u

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

well hello thar scummymcscummerson plz2be answering this kthx

pay paticular attention to the bit where i aks 4 ur scum-reads which u promisd in ISO #10 but over

1600

1500 posts later have mysteriouzly not arrived! amirite?

~ Hoppster

[David Xanatos]

I'm relatively new to the site and I've seen Shotty's rep even in the MD forum.. hardly a valid argument from mera on that count. Not sure if scumtell but not exactly nice to lie to us..

And isn't F62 just something you clicky the linky to join in the usergroup?

[Junpei]

Had a post, but basically what David Xantos said. I second the notion that even those relatively knew to the site know about Shotty.

[David Xanatos]

Why do people always get my name wrong when they're not shouting at me..

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum. I have a guilty on him.

[Rainbowdash]

Ok, so I am going to be perfectly blunt about all of this because it is bugging me to no end.

The game needs to move forward, basically, the game needs a lynch and needs it bad. I will vote for either of andrew and Izak at this point, whichever has the most votes, and I actually encorage others to do the same. There is a serious problem with a game past 80 pages and only on the second day. It needs to end. Andrew has more votes, my vote goes there.

unvote
Vote andrew

[Junpei]

Why are you two trying to brush this away so quickly? No comments on the Meran business, no consideration, just "andrew is scum lynch go!"?

[chkballin]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: andrew

fine with this lynch....

[Rainbowdash]

If Meran got ran up I would be 100% fine with jumping on that wagon or simply having him vigged. This game just is going to die if we don't lynch someone soon, so im at the point where I will lynch anyone I don't have a town read on.

[David Xanatos]

I don't like the argument that just because the thread is past X pages on day Y that we need to quicklynch someone.. it creates a mentality that can only benefit scum. That said, I do believe Andrew is the scummiest of the three (feasible) wagons.

[Junpei]

I agree but I still want Meran to explain this.

[Rainbowdash]

I don't like the argument that just because the thread is past X pages on day Y that we need to quicklynch someone.. it creates a mentality that can only benefit scum. That said, I do believe Andrew is the scummiest of the three (feasible) wagons.

Ask anypony who has been in a game where a day lasted forever, whether its due to too much posting or hardcore lurking, it will hurt the town more than a regular length day, especially when its day after day. This one is way past its expiration date.

Do people need death more than Andrew? Of course, but its not happening. Its time to take a very good lynch that will get us further along due to increased role info and alignment flips.

[Junpei]

Rainbowdash, how long is a regular day to you? To me it sounds like an arbitrary way of saying "I want the day to end now so lynch andrew". Settling isn't necessary right now. We don't have to tunnel our vision to 1 or 2 prospects. That is VERY anti-town.

[izakthegoomba]

I have already said that I read silver and andrew as scum. Other scummy people include:

Meran (thanks in no small part to Pinky's snooping)
Junpei (lots regarding that is based on D1 stuff, including what Vifam did, but Junpei has done nothing that improves my read)
ZeL1nK (weak read, it's the whole claim-vig-but-reluctant-to-claim-kill thig that irks me (as a side note, has he claimed who he shot yet? (sorry if he has)))
Rodion (general feeling from his posts)
Peregrine (same as above)

[David Xanatos]

Who's, in your mind, in need of a lynch more than andrew then?

*posts written during/after this point on cider.. may become steadily more incomprehensebibble*

[Junpei]

Those are terrible reads...

Let me summarize.

Meran is scummy because of the post that just took place.

I'm scummy because of Vifam and I am null since then.

ZeL1nK is scummy for claiming vig but not his shot

Rodion is a general feeling

Peregrine is a general feeling

No way you've read this thread and have been scumhunting. No chance.

[David Xanatos]

The above was addressed to rainbow.

[Rainbowdash]

Rainbowdash, how long is a regular day to you? To me it sounds like an arbitrary way of saying "I want the day to end now so lynch andrew". Settling isn't necessary right now. We don't have to tunnel our vision to 1 or 2 prospects. That is VERY anti-town.

Passing 30 pages is getting too long.

Settling is absolutely necessary. Look how many people are actually posting in this game, and what its about. Everything is centering around three people and only half the game even seems to give two shakes of a ponies tail at this point. When its all circling around a couple ponies and the game is continuing to stall heavily, one of the big topics is going to get lynched. Period. End of story.

Day over, please. Its the best way to unstall games.

@DX - I would love to see oversoul or peregrine lynched today, but thats not happening today.

[David Xanatos]

I tried to pressurise Pere but not even you switched too add too that.,, why'd you not switch if you wanted to see it?

[Rainbowdash]

I tried to pressurise Pere but not even you switched too add too that.,, why'd you not switch if you wanted to see it?

I tired out the gate, no one went along with it. Trying to break down wagons again at this point is going to continue to screw with the pacing of the game and increases chances of a Silver lynch since most support for a Peregrine or Oversoul lynch comes from Andrew/Izak wagons.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum. I have a guilty on him.

[David Xanatos]

Right then. Purely for interest, I'd like people to list the top 5 people they think deserve pressure/lynching. Let's not drag vigging etc into this just yet.. purely so we have a handle on where people stand.

[David Xanatos]

Shotty, are you seriously claiming Cop? -_-

[drmyshottyizsik]

I seriously can't believe no one got my bread crumb.