TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Banshee]

firstly, banshee what do you mean 'this'

It was a hyperlink to the post that caused me to vote for you. I thought that was evident.

What is the value of the "integrity" of the discussion between unconfirmed neighbours, in your view? Also, in your opinion what is the benefit of daytalk between unconfirmed individuals?

[Banshee]

@MOD:

Can we get a prod on ZeL1nK please? He hasn't posted today, and he called me scummy right before he left and now I don't know if he's going to take me to Prom or not.

Thanks!

[ZeL1nK]

now I don't know if he's going to take me to Prom or not.

I'm not.

[killerjester]

-Killer
I apologize for being repetitive but you are missing the point of the question. You stated this early this day.

Considering how suspicious everyone finds him, I feel he's harboring his vote by placing it on Nero. With the classic, "Just following my D1 play!" as his sole excuse.

and I have asked, What's changed from D1? in post 1569 Please ignore everything further that has happened today when answering this.

Asked and answered. Is there anything you need me to explain further?

I'm gonna take a look at andrews iso... I'd still heavily prefer Nero but I'll look into andrew tomorrow and see if I think he's playing his typical "self" or not.

Nero isn't going to be lynched today. The chance that we have two town neighborizers is quite low, in my opinion. One of them should be lynched today.

Izak are MoI are the neighbor recruits, right? MoI's talked plenty, but I want to hear something from this end..

@MoI well, now that you've outed him, I can totally see what you mean. I am still leaning towards silver more, but is there anything in particular that makes Andrew very scummy?

HEY MOAI I AGREE THAT ANDREW IS SCUMMY

WHY IS HE SCUMMY THOUGH

/fence-sit


izak, scum-reads please, pronto.

~ Hoppster
(spoilers, duh)

And also, there's that whole ordeal where andrew's being a dodgy little neighborizer and not sharing why he recruited MoI.

VOTE: Andrew

[Banshee]

I'm not.

OMGUS.

In seriousness, I have two questions for ZeL1nK.

Did you shoot Vollkan?

What are your feelings on lynching Andrew?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote Zel1nk

You can whine scum but you are going to die.

[ZeL1nK]

ThAdmiral I have mentioned things that andrew and ZeL1nK have done day 1 and day 2 has just started.

Um... No.

You spent most of D1 telling me I was completely wrong and Zinger was definitely not town.

Oh yeah, that reminds me.

As promised.

I TOLD YOU SO

I know, I know, I said it would be grand, but I am very lazy so you'll have to do with size=200 and pretend it's amazing.

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Anyway,

Silver is town. He's wrong about Nero, he's right about the other two in his top three scum reads (shotty+izak). What irks me is that several people have expressed willingness to vote for izak but.... no izak wagon. Disappointing.

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WAIT.

izak posts first about it, i find that a town read

The above quote is proof that izak is scum. The best way to find scum is to look at anything andrew says and go in the opposite direction. <- Not even joking, it's a rule of mine and I've had some amazing success with this.

VOTE: izak

ftr, I don't have any strong feelings about andrew whatsoever. I'm more inclined to believe he's town than scum, but I'm quite happy to sit on the fence on this issue while I push for a scum lynch.

I also refuse to answer any questions about my night action unless I see a good reason to do so. This I can answer:

Did you shoot Vollkan?

What are your feelings on lynching Andrew?

No, and meh as above.

[hipaddict1]

who did you shoot ?

[Junpei]

Did you shoot at all?

[ZeL1nK]

I don't see any reason to answer either of those questions at this point in time.

[killerjester]

I agree with ZeL1nK. In that silver is town, silver's wrong about Nero, and there's no reason to rolefish the vig yet. I don't agree on izak or andrew though. In that I think izak is town and andrew is scum.

[hipaddict1]

I don't see any reason to answer either of those questions at this point in time.

i do. Now tell us or we kill you.

[Junpei]

I agree with Hipaddict1, you are obligated to tell town who/if you shot, it is important information.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I agree with Hipaddict1, you are obligated to tell town who/if you shot, it is important information.

No, he's not. Unless someone has been at the precipice of being lynched (L-1) there is NO obligation for them to post any possible Night actions.

[Junpei]

I agree with Hipaddict1, you are obligated to tell town who/if you shot, it is important information.

No, he's not. Unless someone has been at the precipice of being lynched (L-1) there is NO obligation for them to post any possible Night actions.

It tells us

1) Who was protected last night

2) If not 1 then a possible self-protection ability

3) He may have not shot which would be interesting

4) Hearing his logic on why he shot who he shot is good for scum hunting, especially since he obviously is expecting not to announce it.

[Junpei]

For clarity, 1 and 2 allow someone to confirm Zel1nK from their point of view, which is nice. Especially since in 1 it'd be a protective role. Of course when I say confirm I mean mostly confirm, but it is definitely helpful.

[killerjester]

You want ZeL1nK to give out more information than he has to AND the protective role to come out and confirm he's telling the truth?

For what? Two mostly-confirmed town?

[Junpei]

You want ZeL1nK to give out more information than he has to AND the protective role to come out and confirm he's telling the truth?

For what? Two mostly-confirmed town?

No I don't want the protective role to come out. He'd be confirmed to the protective role as a killing role.

[Meransiel]

No way. Zelink must definitely claim. IMO anyway.

[izakthegoomba]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

[drmyshottyizsik]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

How? I just don't see how Andrew is that scummy. He is bad yes, but he's not scummy,

[Junpei]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

I find this post scummy as he just says "yeah I agree, VOTE".

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

How? I just don't see how Andrew is that scummy. He is bad yes, but he's not scummy,

I don't mind spelling it out again (Actually I do, but I'll do it anyway) if you will listen. Alternatively you could see what I've been discussing with andrew and all my points in said argument. I spell it out quite cleanly.

[killerjester]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

I find this post scummy as he just says "yeah I agree, VOTE".

And then you remember he's a neighbor. He looked at MoI's point of view, and he sees andrew in the same light. What else SHOULD he say?

I find it scummy to pick on such an easy target.

[Junpei]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

I find this post scummy as he just says "yeah I agree, VOTE".

And then you remember he's a neighbor. He looked at MoI's point of view, and he sees andrew in the same light. What else SHOULD he say?

I find it scummy to pick on such an easy target.

Ahem. I forgot that easy targets are always town targets and that I should only ever "pick on" hard targets. Don't be ludicrous.

Izak should have at least said a couple sentences of how/why it changed his opinion on the matter. He never went into detail on his silver read pretty much agreeing with what others said. So this would have been a great time to state his opinion on BOTH lynches.

[chkballin]

Andrew, is a puzzling player in the way that he is VI. I never know if he's just being ridiculous or if he's scum- given that their are supposedly two neighborizors I am betting that they both aren't town so I could get behind an andrew lynch.