Open 317 Masons & Monks (Game Over) Finished: September 8

Thor665 · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:32 am

Well, neither side really did optimal kills.
The Werewolves killed a guaranteed not Mafia and the Mafia killed a werewolf and ignored the guaranteed not Mafia.
I don't think we can predict them much at all.
Doesn't really matter though - we're lynching Chevre (or Scott).

Also, Yank needs to manage that catchup post.

Mist7676 · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:56 am

I still haven't got someone to replace SmallPeople343 and he will be ModKilled b

y the end of Night 2 if I can't find one.

Cirno · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:42 pm

v/la until saturday

Thor665 · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:54 pm

Who has a town read on Chevre?
Why has this lynch not happened yet?

DeityKabuto · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:34 am

Thor665 wrote:Who has a town read on Chevre?
Why has this lynch not happened yet?

I don't it's pretty obvious that Chevre is a bit suspicious.

On the other hand, I think it's scumplay of you to be so forceful of a Town's lynch, therefore my vote will stay on you until your lynch happens. I am pretty certain this is scum-Thor right now, hehe.

cjdrum · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:36 am

DK: Why do you have such a strong Town read on Chevre?

(I've yet to decide about Chevre, but will yet you all know as soon as I do)

DeityKabuto · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:37 am

I don't recall posting my Town reads.

I just don't like how you guys are playing so much on the offense on Chevre.

Chevre hasn't even whipped out a defense and you are ready to lynch.

cjdrum · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:40 am

DeityKabuto wrote:I think it's scumplay of you to be so forceful of a Town's [Chevre's] lynch,

This is you strongly saying that you believe Chevre is Town.

DeityKabuto · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:13 am

cjdrum wrote:
DeityKabuto wrote:I think it's scumplay of you to be so forceful of a Town's [Chevre's] lynch,

This is you strongly saying that you believe Chevre is Town.

No, it's not. It's me saying that there's no need to rush Chevre's lynch.

YankCane151 · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:42 am

cjdrum wrote:DK: Why do you have such a strong Town read on Chevre?

(I've yet to decide about Chevre, but will yet you all know as soon as I do)

What purpose does this have? He's a mason, but if he's a wolf, his partner is dead anyways. Also that parentheses gives me the gist of "I'll decide when the wagon grows a bit"

Thor665 · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:54 am

Hey Yank, you're right about cjdrum wanting to slither onto an easy wagon.

Didn't you promise reads on some of the other action going on in thread and not just one of the most recent posts?

@DK - I don't think you can read me at all nor do I think you've bothered to look at any meta of me to see how aggressive I am around lynches when town or scum.

DeityKabuto · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:01 am

Thor665 wrote:@DK - I don't think you can read me at all nor do I think you've bothered to look at any meta of me to see how aggressive I am around lynches when town or scum.

You are right, I haven't meta'd you at all.

But still, give me all the legit reasons you are for a Chevre lynch, list em' please so I can make a solid case to defend.

Thor665 · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:08 am

I stated my Chevre case last page when Cirno wanted it restated.

Mist7676 · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:43 am

Chevre & Scott Brosius Prodded. Chevre will need to be replaced for having recieved 3 prods. Guys come on! Keep up with this. I'm two replacments deep and no one wants to replace in!

DeityKabuto · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:54 am

So you want to quick lynch someone who is being replaced, why?

Scott Brosius · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:05 am

I'm here, but I don't really have much to say. I feel like this game especially with all the claims out is completely based off of flips and not scumhunting (not just this specific game, the setup in general).

Chevre needs to die. That would help with the replacement problem too =)

DeityKabuto · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:08 am

You guys are all scum to meh.

Chevre is not dieing, you shouldn't quick lynch like that, if I could I Would lynch all of you lazy bastards.

Thor665 · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:54 am

If by lazy bastards you include Chevre - than sure.

When are you making that Chevre is town argument? Because - seriously dude - nothing he has done is worth this much defense.

Guido Crescendo · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:36 am

Scott Brosius wrote:I'm here, but I don't really have much to say. I feel like this game especially with all the claims out is completely based off of flips and not scumhunting (not just this specific game, the setup in general).

Chevre needs to die. That would help with the replacement problem too =)

I like this plan. Votevotevote.

Thor665 · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:37 am

@Guido - you're ducking Cirno's question. She wanted you to state or quote your case vs. Chevre.

Mist7676 · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:21 am

Shion Sonozaki replaces SmallPeople343

Shion Sonozaki · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:39 am

What the mod posted is the truth. I'll quickly look into the Cevre wagon, and give my thoughts on that ASAP.

Shion Sonozaki · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:19 am

The thing I don't like about the Chevre wagon is how much people are pushing for it, particularly given that Chevre needs a replacement, and therefore cannot defend himself. It just screams opportunism to me, particularly Thor's incredibly hard pushing for an immediate Chevre lynch.

That said, the Blackberry-Chevre interactions are scummy as hell. Blackberry pretty much says nothing about Chevre, and in #181, attacks Cirno for attempting to "make Chevre look dumb." In his reads in #457, he says absolutely nothing about whether he feels Chevre has been acting pro-town or scummy. That's a typical tactic towards a scumbuddy- ignore them completely, thereby making it more difficult to make connections after a flip. It's especially odd given that he then proceeds to answer Chevre's question in the same post; that just makes it feel more like deliberate obfuscation. And that's it. Two whole posts that mention Chevre by name- one defending him, and one responding to a question Chevre asks.

Chevre's attitude towards Blackberry? Essentially the same. Asks a question about Blackberry regarding post #104, but never actually says whether he feels that the lack of explanation is scummy or not. Feels that DCJ is too defensive regarding Blackberry's posts. Continues to attack DCJ's Blackberry offensive in #228. Makes DCJ's "overboard reaction" toward Blackberry's post part of his case against DCJ in #666. That's all. He seems to chainsaw DCJ, but doesn't actually give a single read on Blackberry.

This definitely feels like two scum deliberately refusing to give opinions on each other, and the interesting chainsawing in Chevre's post is just icing on the cake. Not to mention his bizarre assertion that connections to Blackberry makes us Monks scummy, when Blackberry flipped wolf, just makes him look worse. It just reeks of the other werewolf fake-scumhunting, and push attention away from himself. Chevre is definitely an incredibly strong candidate for the second werewolf. I definitely approve of the Chevre wagon. I'd argue that likelihood that Chevre is the second werewolf is definitely between 90 and 95%.

Thus far though, I've simply read through the last few pages, and Blackberry and Chevre in ISO. I'll now take a look at the entire thread.

Scott Brosius · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:27 am

smallpeople please claim

Scott Brosius · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:28 am

err shion please claim.