Double-Dip Mafia, Game Over

[Amrun]

Why? Make your own conclusions.

[Empking]

Why? Make your own conclusions.

What do you mean? I think I've already said: Quilford should vote DGB because he said she was scum, she is scum and she's the vote leader.

The act that he hasn't makes him scum (probably with DGB).

[DrippingGoofball]

Day Four Vote Count #9

3 DrippingGoofball (imaginality, Empking, smallpeoples343)
3 Empking (DrippingGoofball, Quilford, Crazy)
3 Quilford (Tarhalindur, Amrun, Empking)

Hey Empscum

I'm the vote leader, and you're not??????????????????

[DrippingGoofball]

Quilford should vote DGB because he said she was scum, she is scum and she's the vote leader.

The act that he hasn't makes him scum (probably with DGB).

Quilford is voting YOU.

Cuz you're scum.

It's really not complicated.

[Empking]

Day Four Vote Count #9

3 DrippingGoofball (imaginality, Empking, smallpeoples343)
3 Empking (DrippingGoofball, Quilford, Crazy)
3 Quilford (Tarhalindur, Amrun, Empking)

Hey Empscum

I'm the vote leader, and you're not??????????????????

I never said his voting me was inconsistant just that him not voting you was.

Edit If anyone doesn't notice the moronic defense of Quilford that seems to neglect him having two votes then I'll ACTUALLY get frustrated.

[petroleumjelly]

Day Four Vote Count #10

3 DrippingGoofball (imaginality, Empking, smallpeoples343)
3 Empking (DrippingGoofball, Quilford, Crazy)
3 Quilford (Tarhalindur, Amrun, Empking)
2 Crazy (Ranmaru, imaginality)
2 smallpeoples343 (Ranmaru, Amrun)
2 imaginality (Tarhalindur, DrippingGoofball)
1 Tarhalindur (Quilford)
1 Ranmaru (smallpeoples343)

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch. Deadline is August 6 at 5:00 PM PDT.

Not Voting – 0 – Nobody

[Ranmaru]

Well we got four days.

DGB is my preferred lynch. If she wants Emp lynched, I need convincing. If he were to flip town, I'd lynch her the next Day; QUICK LYNCH. Jk. ;o

Then Crazy.

Then Quil/Smalls >Quils added because of Tar <3

[DrippingGoofball]

Great Ranmaru, mislynch two townies now, and the scum will let you live to end game to hammer the last townie!

[DrippingGoofball]

If she wants Emp lynched, I need convincing.

The fact that you think he's town should be proof enough for you that he's scum. Works for me.

[Crazy]

I don't have time now to read everything, but I'm voting Quilford as my second vote because of this:

this was the only post HackerHuck made and he wasn't replaced because he flaked. we don't even know why he flaked - he must've pmed the mod; I think it was him being unmotivated scum

This is what people say when they're caught in a lie and then they try to throw some excuse that works.

HackerHuck flaked - therefore he must be scum because only scum get unmotivated!

That's ridiculous, and I don't buy for a second that Quilford honestly believes that.

VOTE: Quilford (L-1)

Empking and imaginality aren't horrible lynches, either, though - I really wouldn't be upset if any one of them got lynched today. I really doubt they can all be scum, but at least one of them

has

to be, if not two.

Crazy in 1179: in response to Ranmaru's "Why are you voting Empking?" he says "I'm voting Empking because I think he is scum. See my earlier posts for more reasons." I don't think town would be as likely as scum to say the first sentence, because town are pretty much always voting someone because they think they're scummy. So they'd hear that question as asking for the reasons for their scumread. Scum however would be more likely to want to defend their vote in this "because he's scum - see, I'm scumhunting, really, honest I am" kind of way.

That was just me being blunt because I didn't feel like repeating what I had already said. It wasn't obvious that my reply was just an attitude thing, and not a serious response?

[DrippingGoofball]

Town

Ellibereth

Amrun
imaginality
Crazy

Null

iamausername

Empking

Scum

kunkstar7

DGB
WLC
Ranmaru

[DrippingGoofball]

Quilford is more active in other games compared to this one.

[DrippingGoofball]

As much as I'd like to hammer like I did with kunkstar, I'm not finding Quilford as egregiously scummy.

I will wait for the claim, and there better no be evidence of stalling.

[Quilford]

my activity levels are low here because I AM BEING ATTACKED BY SCUM AND NOBODY IS LISTENING plus you know uncertain about my reads because everyone is suddenly swinging back and forth and I can't decide on the alignments of Crazy Empking smalls and

and everyone really

I'm just a VT. Empking needs to die.

[DrippingGoofball]

Not gonna hammer this one.

@ Crazy - unvote Quilford please, he's town.

The scum isn't getting wagoned much.

3 DrippingGoofball (imaginality, Empking, smallpeoples343)

3 Empking

(DrippingGoofball, Quilford, Crazy)
3 Quilford (Tarhalindur, Amrun, Empking)
2 Crazy (Ranmaru, imaginality)

2 smallpeoples343

(Ranmaru, Amrun)

2 imaginality

(Tarhalindur, DrippingGoofball)

1 Tarhalindur

(Quilford)
1 Ranmaru (smallpeoples343)

[DrippingGoofball]

My reads as promised:

FEW TOWN READS INCLUDE A SCUM

iamausername

- town read:

kunkstar7

- town read:

Ranmaru

- town read:

THE "MEAT" IS HERE: WISHY WASHY READS

RedCoyote/Tar - slight town read:

Ellibereth

- minor town read:

WeyounsLastClone

- null read:
Amrun - null read:
Empking - null read:
Ameliaslay/Quilford - minor scum read:

FAKE SCUM READS

Crazy - scum read:

Pomegranate

- scum read:

Full disclosure: I changed the order. removed the reasons, and added headings.

Empking, always hard to read, seemed maybe null D1, but he's contributed pretty much less than zero D2. He's among my suspects now but maybe 5th behind DGB, smalls, Crazy, and kunkstar - who I didn't think was scummy 'til now, but unless WLC flips scum (doesn't seem likely) this hammer is definitely really bad.

It took that crap hammer to make imaginality find kunkstar "REALLY BAD."
Empking is now a suspect but ooooooooooooooh, FIFTH, I kid you not,

FIFTH

behind a whole bunch of players. He suspects Empking more, but imaginality has to put him in fifth position. Why bother? This is token suspicion at its best.

Amrun's good posts on the last few pages mean she's now a clearer town read to me. With Ranmaru looking obv-town, and

Tarhalindur seeming town too

, if we have three scum, I think the two remaining scum are either {DGB, Crazy}, or {smalls, Quilford/Empking}.

This is interesting. Imaginality also had RedCoyote as town, but in iso his comments on RedCoyote are very wishywashy.

"@Ellibereth: why are you voting

Red Coyote

? "
"

@Red Coyote:

do you think we need to get rid of smallpeoples343 simply because of his claim"

Talking IIoA with

RedCoyote:

"usefulness to town = % likelihood of being town * ability to contribute effectively (both scumhunting and using role powers if applicable) usefulness = towniness * effectiveness U=T*E"

I'm voting them both but I'd rather lynch DGB, who can run riot over the town if scum,

See, that's one of those logical snags. Why isn't he also saying in the same breath that I'm a tremendous asset to town? And he doesn't say

"she's scum and could run a riot over the town"

he says "

IF

scum." IF.

...You're scum, annoyed you weren't able to come in, take control, and lead the town to its destruction.

imaginality is one of the scumbags leaving Ranmaru alive everyday to decimate the town with krapreads.

Imaginality has been EXTRAORDINARILY CONSISTENT. This is a mega-scumtell. His "reads" pretty much do not ever waver. There is an instance of unvoting Crazy, but then he revotes later. He was suspicious of my predecessor Pomegranate since the RVS. He never, ever bothered to give me a chance. Imaginality was completely entrenched in finding me scum - there is absolutely no amount of town tells I can drop to make Mr.ConsistentScum change his mind.

Kunkstar... I'd say scum.

And yet you vote DGB 'to be normal and join the others'?

Grr. I still think DGB is scum, and I guess smallpeoples343 could be bussing with this lazy-scummy post. But that's a stretch if DGB is scum GF or other scum PR. I think smallpeople343's post fits more neatly with a DGB town, kunkstar7 + smallpeoples343 scum scenario. The 'vote town but list your buddy as your second (in this game third) suspect' approach.

Taking that into account, I think kunkstar7 should be lynched today ahead of DGB, since he's still scummy under either scenario.

Here, he berates smalls for voting me, and actually considers the possibility that I may be town for a minute, still hanging on to that stupid theory that I'm a GF. Now, even though imaginality has smalls on this scumlist, he is not voting smalls. He's voting me instead, presumably because I'm the key to figure out smalls' alignment, though in his post, the logical step would be the reverse... another logic snag. And yet... as he considers the possibility, at last, that I'm town... he still hangs on to his CONSISTENT STANCE: "I still think DGB is scum" - so despite calling it a stretch in the same sentence, he clearly announces that smalls is frikkin bus'ing me, of all things.

Here's a defense of kuknkstar:

Oh hey, Empking's vote has put kunkstar7 at L-1. No quick-hammers please.

Hey. I apologize for hammering your buddy before he had a chance to fakeclaim.

============================

TL;DR - extraordinarily and un-naturally consistent, most reads are wishy-washy, logical stream only considering foregone conclusions and not other side of coin, will not change his mind even if his own "logic" dictates that he should, pretty much hasn't changed his mind on anything all game, softly protective of kunkstar despite his horrid hammer the day before.

[Empking]

Not gonna hammer this one.

@ Crazy - unvote Quilford please, he's town.

The scum isn't getting wagoned much.

I thought I was a vote leader?

[DrippingGoofball]

My reads as promised:

FEW TOWN READS INCLUDE A SCUM

iamausername

- town read:

kunkstar7

- town read:

Ranmaru

- town read:

THE "MEAT" IS HERE: WISHY WASHY READS

RedCoyote/Tar - slight town read:

Ellibereth

- minor town read:

WeyounsLastClone

- null read:
Amrun - null read:
Empking - null read:
Ameliaslay/Quilford - minor scum read:

FAKE SCUM READS

Crazy - scum read:

Pomegranate

- scum read:
smalls - scumread

I seem to have cut off imaginality's unchanging smalls scumread while cutting and pasting.

[DrippingGoofball]

I thought I was a vote leader?

It breaks my heart that you're stuck at three votes.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's possible that imaginality is bus'ing smalls hard, what are weak buddies for, except bus fodder?

[DrippingGoofball]

Empking or Tar are imaginality's scumpal hidden in the large "null read" category.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey look, Empking doesn't have any witty comebacks to my case against his scumpal.

[Empking]

Hey look, Empking doesn't have any witty comebacks to my case against his scumpal.

Almost as if they're not scumpals...

[imaginality]

I see DGB is trying to appear vaguely useful so as to stave off being lynched for another day. Let's take a look:

My reads as promised

Full disclosure: I changed the order. removed the reasons, and added headings.

This is purely rhetorical and does nothing to demonstrate why imaginality might be scum.

FTFY. If I was lynched and flipped scum, it'd be useful to look at the distribution of my reads, maybe. But all you've shown here is that I had a town read on kunkstar7 at the start of D2. For good reason - his Day 1 posts read well. And if you're saying I had several weak town and weak scum reads - yes. I was relatively unsure about various people at that point. Since then I've developed clearer reads on most people.

Empking, always hard to read, seemed maybe null D1, but he's contributed pretty much less than zero D2. He's among my suspects now but maybe 5th behind DGB, smalls, Crazy, and kunkstar - who I didn't think was scummy 'til now, but unless WLC flips scum (doesn't seem likely) this hammer is definitely really bad.

It took that crap hammer to make imaginality find kunkstar "REALLY BAD."
Empking is now a suspect but ooooooooooooooh, FIFTH, I kid you not,

FIFTH

behind a whole bunch of players. He suspects Empking more, but imaginality has to put him in fifth position. Why bother? This is token suspicion at its best.

That hammer was UBERSCUMMY. There was no possible town motivation to hammer WLC before he claimed. None.
And are you complaining about me clearly suspecting 5 people now, when you complained about me having a bunch of weak reads earlier? Really? Also, you conveniently ignore the fact this comment on Empking was

in response to Ranmaru asking me my read on Empking.

I'm not sure how else I could've answered the question except by saying which position he was at in my list at the time.

Amrun's good posts on the last few pages mean she's now a clearer town read to me. With Ranmaru looking obv-town, and

Tarhalindur seeming town too

, if we have three scum, I think the two remaining scum are either {DGB, Crazy}, or {smalls, Quilford/Empking}.

This is interesting.

Imaginality also had RedCoyote as town

, but in iso his comments on RedCoyote are very wishywashy.

"@Ellibereth: why are you voting

Red Coyote

? "
"

@Red Coyote:

do you think we need to get rid of smallpeoples343 simply because of his claim"

Talking IIoA with

RedCoyote:

"usefulness to town = % likelihood of being town * ability to contribute effectively (both scumhunting and using role powers if applicable) usefulness = towniness * effectiveness U=T*E"

I had a "slight town" read on RedCoyote because I've played with him before and felt his play was consistent with here, and he was making sense to me, read-wise. I feel more confident he's town now, not least because of known-town Ranmaru's confidence in his mason buddy's reason for that slot being town. Tarhalindur actually scumhunting helps, too.

I'm voting them both but I'd rather lynch DGB, who can run riot over the town if scum,

See, that's one of those logical snags. Why isn't he also saying in the same breath that I'm a tremendous asset to town? And he doesn't say

"she's scum and could run a riot over the town"

he says "

IF

scum." IF.

I said 'if' because I

don't

know

you're scum. I didn't say "but she can be really helpful as town" because I

did/do

think

you're scum. Like, I'd probably have said I was 80% sure you're scum. 80% chance of very bad stuff clearly outweighed the 20% chance of very good stuff. If I'd felt more 50-50 about you then I'd have taken your asset-as-town-ness into consideration.

...You're scum, annoyed you weren't able to come in, take control, and lead the town to its destruction.

imaginality is one of the scumbags leaving Ranmaru alive everyday to decimate the town with krapreads.

Imaginality has been EXTRAORDINARILY CONSISTENT. This is a mega-scumtell. His "reads" pretty much do not ever waver. There is an instance of unvoting Crazy, but then he revotes later. He was suspicious of my predecessor Pomegranate since the RVS. He never, ever bothered to give me a chance. Imaginality was completely entrenched in finding me scum - there is absolutely no amount of town tells I can drop to make Mr.ConsistentScum change his mind.

Is that how it's looked? To me, I've wavered in my reads on smalls and Crazy, still find Quilford and Empking tricky to read, and thought Amrun was suspicious for a bit before lately having a townread on her. I've been consistently townreading Ranmaru and Tarhalindur's slot, admittedly.

And my read on you has stuck throughout because Pom's scumminess had already dug you into a hole, and since then your play has been based nearly entirely on this:

DGB's scumposting algorithm

1. Roll a D20
2. Act accordingly:

1: threaten to retire
2-5: Scumputer time!
6-8: Insult Ranmaru's intelligence
9-11: Insult the whole town's intelligence
12-13: Predict town loss
14-18: Appeal to emotion
19-20: Fake being hammered

Kunkstar... I'd say scum.

And yet you vote DGB 'to be normal and join the others'?

Grr. I still think DGB is scum, and I guess smallpeoples343 could be bussing with this lazy-scummy post. But that's a stretch if DGB is scum GF or other scum PR. I think smallpeople343's post fits more neatly with a DGB town, kunkstar7 + smallpeoples343 scum scenario. The 'vote town but list your buddy as your second (in this game third) suspect' approach.

Taking that into account, I think kunkstar7 should be lynched today ahead of DGB, since he's still scummy under either scenario.

Here, he berates smalls for voting me, and actually considers the possibility that I may be town for a minute, still hanging on to that stupid theory that I'm a GF. Now, even though imaginality has smalls on this scumlist, he is not voting smalls. He's voting me instead, presumably because I'm the key to figure out smalls' alignment, though in his post, the logical step would be the reverse... another logic snag. And yet... as he considers the possibility, at last, that I'm town... he still hangs on to his CONSISTENT STANCE: "I still think DGB is scum" - so despite calling it a stretch in the same sentence, he clearly announces that smalls is frikkin bus'ing me, of all things.

It wasn't my clearest post but basically what I was saying there was:

1. smalls looks scummy, but I don't think he's scum with DGB - it's an either-or deal here
2. so let's lynch kunkstar7 today, because he's also pretty scummy, and could be scum with either of them
3. meanwhile my other vote's on DGB because I think she's scummier than smalls

Here's a defense of kunkstar:

Oh hey, Empking's vote has put kunkstar7 at L-1. No quick-hammers please.

Hey. I apologize for hammering your buddy before he had a chance to fakeclaim.

You claim hammering kunkstar7 without letting him claim was townish. No. Town didn't know for sure kunkstar7 was scum. Waiting for the claim is pro-town (deadline was waaay off). You, though, knew he's scum and thought, "Woohoo, I'll get myself some townpoints for hammering scum!"

============================

TL;DR - extraordinarily and un-naturally consistent, most reads are wishy-washy, logical stream only considering foregone conclusions and not other side of coin, will not change his mind even if his own "logic" dictates that he should, pretty much hasn't changed his mind on anything all game, softly protective of kunkstar despite his horrid hammer the day before.

I annoyed DGB-scum by not letting up on trying to get her lynched, some of my earlyish reads were weak rather than strong reads, I weighted conclusions according to likelihood, I used reads of interactions to narrow down scumpairing possibilities, I 'protected' kunkstar7 by... erm... saying we should lynch him and voting for him.

[DrippingGoofball]

I see DGB is trying to appear vaguely useful so as to stave off being lynched for another day. Let's take a look:

My reads as promised

Full disclosure: I changed the order. removed the reasons, and added headings.

This is purely rhetorical and does nothing to demonstrate why imaginality might be scum.

It demonstrates that the bulk of your "reads" are null-to nullish. It was NOT rhetorical.

[kunkstar's] Day 1 posts read well.

Erm, no, his FEW posts were poor to the point of hammering him without a chance to fakeclaim.

Please support your statement that kunkstar's Day 1 posts "read well" and why your read remained unchanged after Day 1, and why it took kunkstar's second claimless hammer to finally vote him with some reluctance.

And if you're saying I had several weak town and weak scum reads - yes. I was relatively unsure about various people at that point. Since then I've developed clearer reads on most people.

YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED YOUR READS - they are clearer? The point is, you are refusing to change any of them, because you are scum valuing your CONSISTENCY.

That hammer was UBERSCUMMY. There was no possible town motivation to hammer WLC before he claimed. None.
And are you complaining about me clearly suspecting 5 people now, when you complained about me having a bunch of weak reads earlier?

Nope, in fact, fifth position means you pretty much won't vote him.

Really? Also, you conveniently ignore the fact this comment on Empking was

in response to Ranmaru asking me my read on Empking.

I'm not sure how else I could've answered the question except by saying which position he was at in my list at the time.

It's still a way of saying you won't vote him.

PLUS - Empking was behind "

DGB, smalls, Crazy, and kunkstar"

(kunkstar being a FORCED scumread at that point, calling him town became untenable), and three players you have CONTINUALLY declared were scum, smalls, Crazy and myself.

I had a "slight town" read on RedCoyote because I've played with him before and felt his play was consistent with here, and he was making sense to me, read-wise. I feel more confident he's town now, not least because of known-town Ranmaru's confidence in his mason buddy's reason for that slot being town. Tarhalindur actually scumhunting helps, too.

And Tar disappeared after the suspicion went away, but you can't change your mind, that's inconsistent, right?

I'm voting them both but I'd rather lynch DGB, who can run riot over the town if scum,

See, that's one of those logical snags. Why isn't he also saying in the same breath that I'm a tremendous asset to town? And he doesn't say

"she's scum and could run a riot over the town"

he says "

IF

scum." IF.

I said 'if' because I

don't

know

you're scum. I didn't say "but she can be really helpful as town" because I

did/do

think

you're scum. Like, I'd probably have said I was 80% sure you're scum. 80% chance of very bad stuff clearly outweighed the 20% chance of very good stuff. If I'd felt more 50-50 about you then I'd have taken your asset-as-town-ness into consideration.

That's a very scumvenient excuse, you should still have considered the 20% chance. You are unvarying in your fake consistency, and your stubborn pushing of a scummy agenda of defending some buddies (kunkstar), bus'ing one (possibly smalls) ans weakly distancing from the third (Empking).

Is that how it's looked? To me, I've wavered in my reads on smalls and Crazy, still find Quilford and Empking tricky to read, and thought Amrun was suspicious for a bit before lately having a townread on her. I've been consistently townreading Ranmaru and Tarhalindur's slot, admittedly.

Oh really. Besides the tiny unvote on Crazy, where have you wavered on smalls? Quilford & Empking tricky to read, that's just keeping YOUR SCUMOPTIONS OPEN, it's not wavering. It's not wavering.

And my read on you has stuck throughout because Pom's scumminess had already dug you into a hole, and since then your play has been based nearly entirely on this:

DGB's scumposting algorithm

1. Roll a D20
2. Act accordingly:

1: threaten to retire
2-5: Scumputer time!
6-8: Insult Ranmaru's intelligence
9-11: Insult the whole town's intelligence
12-13: Predict town loss
14-18: Appeal to emotion
19-20: Fake being hammered

OK, how is that scummy?

I'm insulting Ranmaru-MASON-of-the-godawful-town-reads and offending him at every opportunity, HOW IS THAT SCUMMY?

Like, how is this helping my scum goal to survive to endgame, compared to, say, being consistent and having a lot of vague reads,

like you

???
How is the scumputer scummy? I'd like to hear your reasons.
How is insulting the town's intelligence scummy? Is there a snowball's chance that this will help people get off my back?
How is predicting a town loss scummy?
How is AtE scummy, are you relying on cheap wikitells?
How is faking being hammered scummy?

HOW

Dig your own grave with these questions, scum.

AND TO BOOT

Where do you get this roll D20 business - UNLIKE YOU, I change my mind when the evidence is there.

AND STILL

I could have frikkin hammered Quilford, he thinks I'm scum, and I'd be out of a pickle. BUT I WANT TO LYNCH SCUM

not save my own KEISTER

. Again.

Kunkstar... I'd say scum.

And yet you vote DGB 'to be normal and join the others'?

Grr. I still think DGB is scum, and I guess smallpeoples343 could be bussing with this lazy-scummy post. But that's a stretch if DGB is scum GF or other scum PR. I think smallpeople343's post fits more neatly with a DGB town, kunkstar7 + smallpeoples343 scum scenario. The 'vote town but list your buddy as your second (in this game third) suspect' approach.

Taking that into account, I think kunkstar7 should be lynched today ahead of DGB, since he's still scummy under either scenario.

Here, he berates smalls for voting me, and actually considers the possibility that I may be town for a minute, still hanging on to that stupid theory that I'm a GF. Now, even though imaginality has smalls on this scumlist, he is not voting smalls. He's voting me instead, presumably because I'm the key to figure out smalls' alignment, though in his post, the logical step would be the reverse... another logic snag. And yet... as he considers the possibility, at last, that I'm town... he still hangs on to his CONSISTENT STANCE: "I still think DGB is scum" - so despite calling it a stretch in the same sentence, he clearly announces that smalls is frikkin bus'ing me, of all things.

It wasn't my clearest post but basically what I was saying there was:

1. smalls looks scummy, but I don't think he's scum with DGB - it's an either-or deal here
2. so let's lynch kunkstar7 today, because he's also pretty scummy, and could be scum with either of them
3. meanwhile my other vote's on DGB because I think she's scummier than smalls

It is not possible for be to be more town than I am in this game. You don't sound stupid; why you haven't figured out that I'm town leads me to believe that you don't want to read me as town, because as scum, you'd be closing a lynch option for yourself, and you don't want to lynch your buddy Empking.

You claim hammering kunkstar7 without letting him claim was townish. No.

READ MY SIG. It was totally 100% townish. If we were scum together, you can bet your bottom dollar that I would have made him have a fakeclaim ready./wifom. READ MY SIG.

"Woohoo, I'll get myself some townpoints for hammering scum!"

I predicted that I'd come under heavy fire, if not outright lynched, for not letting scum wiggle out of a pickle with a fakeclaim. I predicted that. Such is this town. Anybody would have predicted that it would earn me SCUMpoints, not TOWNcred.

I DID IT ANYWAY.

I annoyed DGB-scum by not letting up on trying to get her lynched, some of my earlyish reads were weak rather than strong reads, I weighted conclusions according to likelihood, I used reads of interactions to narrow down scumpairing possibilities, I 'protected' kunkstar7 by... erm... saying we should lynch him and voting for him.

Nice misrep. You only annoyed me this game day after much consideration. I was more annoyed with Ranmaru, and I didn't vote Ranmaru, who survived the night. Most of your reads

were

weak. The kunkstar vote was a hail-mary vote, you couldn't keep your UNCHANGING stance on kunkstar anymore after that. Your scumpairing possibilities didn't narrow things down, they left things UNCHANGED despite your own fake train of thought. And yet you ask how could a townie possibly know he was scum??? You know I'm town, don't you.