The Brave and the Beautiful 2: Fairy Tales ÔÇô Game Over


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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:02 am

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This game was pretty crazy, but I guess that was to be expected based on the first B&B game. Excellent flavor text as always. I didn't see ooba being the SK, but I felt pretty sure about Kast as scum after Fate flipped town. I didn't really follow D5, so I'm not sure why Kast wasn't lynched.

ReaperCharlie wrote:Kdub's delay-death resolves, but for some reason he wastes his last chance to Enhance?

ReaperCharlie wrote:Mod Note: Dying via Enhancing the kill target is delayed, and resolves one day/night cycle after the target dies.

I wish this was told to me in my role PM. As given, I didn't enhance the last night because I thought I would die immediately if my target was killed, which would have lost us the game. I didn't know that I already was going to die anyway.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:17 am

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Yeah it was a choice I made, not to tell you. Sorry you got so shafted this game. :(
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:25 am

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alsoooooooooooooooo



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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:39 pm

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Forum62 the scum team, they don't deserve it.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:56 pm

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Thanks in part to YOU derpAbr
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:57 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Kast and Amrun scum

Fate and Albert town

COULD IT BE



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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:14 pm

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Fate wrote:Thanks in part to YOU derpAbr


You hammered important power roles that claimed...I blame us both for the loss FTR
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:18 pm

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I accept my part, yes, but you went frm callin Kast CONFSCUM corrextly all d2/d3 to tunnelin on me iecrint (iec wasobvfuck wrongtown)
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:39 pm

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Fate wrote:Ooba's town Iec.

Your reads are quite bad as usual lol.

Ninja: Lol kunksscum ignoring LLD wagon
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I am scum and not with him

Amazing scumdar that has broken the game already.

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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:00 pm

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What were my reads before I died?

Ooba
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O RLY

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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:26 pm

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Fate wrote:What were my reads before I died?
Ooba
Sathoris
Kast

EVERYONE


O RLY

YA RLY

DAY ONE READS ARE DAY ONE, TROLL MOD


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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:10 pm

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Fate wrote:I don't do any of the setup bs, but the vibes I've gotten are that fitz was a bus to keep ooba towncred afloat.

Kast+Ooba, I'm not sure why you're asking me my reads when I've been pretty clear about my non-ooba scumread (I was calling abr scum for trolling purposes)

Fate wrote:And sathotis as sk, obv.



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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:14 pm

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My scumreads were: everyone, but sath and kast are more likely to be the SK.

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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:56 pm

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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:58 pm

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Yes, we do.

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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:20 pm

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So where I do i start?

@LLD

- Day 1 ended at: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:41 am
- Deadline is Tuesday, June 28 at 3pm PST (6pm EST)
- Total number of posts on site in this period: 120+
How better play from you could have influenced the game in town's favor
- Caught Kast on D2 (Because he roleblocked Kdub that night - you would have known that you not getting two actions + Kast on Kdub = Kast roleblocker)
- You obviously wouldn't have gotten lynched
Next time stop blaming the mod because he stuck to deadline rules and get your action in on time. (Expecting a mod to remind you for a night action is bad)

@Fate

Reads were good + the alliance we formed early on D1 was all town {Amrun,Robo,You,Me,Iece} - I needed to mislynch you because I knew you had a "secret scumread" on me. (Part of the reason I choose not to kill N3 along with number-endgame analysis).
But you had a Redirect - which IMO is the most powerful town ability there is (slightly lower than a Vig or CPR doc). Kast, Me, Sath were you scum reads. Trying to redirect one onto the other would have been the best move. Redirecting Iece to the same person he said he would target achieved no purpose except to get you lynched.

I think both the wasted watch and the wasted redirect went a long way in the town losing.

@ABR

- Could have been a bit more useful in the game. Plus you should have checked B&B1 before joining since flavor\theme of the game - instead of generally bitching about it in thread and not doing much. If you did check B&B1, you would have known that your message power had the use of confirming you didn't use any other ability that night (like Roleblocking)
Should have replaced out early if it irritated you so much.

@Iecerint

- Surprised that you thought I -ABR were a scum pairing - especially just coming after "Battle of Olympus". (where I hard-defended both Chess and gandalf as town). I never defend my scumbuddies as scum - and like I said - bussing ABR is the better play at that point in time. The bolded part in this post was as close as I could come to a SK claim without giving up the chance to win. I was right about the fact that your night action would be nerfed or not that useful - Especially since LLD had a two shot Watch\Track. Overall, think you stuck to your flavor-analysis too much and didn't actually see what I was trying to tell you. For example - you should have definitely seen that Sathoris spent most of his posts SK hunting so he wasn't the SK.

I think the rest of the town was fine. I'm sorry @SpyreX for killing you but I had a gameplan as an SK which revolved around not getting crosskilled beyond N1 (since I was NK immune only for N1)
- Gambit on D1
- Massroleblock N2
- Claim Mass roleblocker + Bulletproof on D2
The Gambit would strengthen the ooba=Townie part of it meaning I wouldn't get lynched. The Bulletproof claim would mean scum would not crosskill me. SpyreX with an early vote on me threatened to disrupt those plans, so killed him.

A bit less RC bitching and more playing would have made for a better game - but overall, I think the playlist was good & would play again with you guys.

@RC

- Personally would have removed the "Beloved Princess" part of Kast's role and just made him a scum JoAT.
- I do think the game was too confusing in night actions. Stuff like the relfexive part of Robo's role and Fate's busdrive could have been omitted (B&B1 had a better mix of actions)
- I'm also surprised at the following line in the QT - "Sathoris is under the impression that you submitted a kill, Kast." - I mean you were strict with LLD on submitting the action choice by PM within the deadline & you didn't remind her too. If each Mafia-ite thought the other was submitting the kill, it points to a lack of coordination on their part and hence, no Mafia kill should have occurred. Would have lead to a Iece-Sath-Me endgame. Would have given either me or town a good chance to win - since we would have no lynched and Sathoris would decide who would have won by killing one of me or Iece. I prefer consistent molding across a game.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:23 pm

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My night action sucked, yes, never been good with them.

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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:21 am

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ooba wrote:- I'm also surprised at the following line in the QT - "Sathoris is under the impression that you submitted a kill, Kast." - I mean you were strict with LLD on submitting the action choice by PM within the deadline & you didn't remind her too. If each Mafia-ite thought the other was submitting the kill, it points to a lack of coordination on their part and hence, no Mafia kill should have occurred. Would have lead to a Iece-Sath-Me endgame. Would have given either me or town a good chance to win - since we would have no lynched and Sathoris would decide who would have won by killing one of me or Iece. I prefer consistent molding across a game.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:59 am

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Agree with Ooba.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:19 am

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Hey guys remember when RC PM'ed players in Blackest Night giving them advise on their play DURING the game?
And my faction never got any of this said help.

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Oh and not to mention, banning the use of caps entirely, forcing the players to post exclusively in lower-case.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:23 am

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RC is banned and gone.

Let this game be a fittin end date on his tombstone

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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:06 pm

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Katsuki wrote:Oh and not to mention, banning the use of caps entirely, forcing the players to post exclusively in lower-case.


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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:13 pm

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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:26 am

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Ooba wrote:- I'm also surprised at the following line in the QT - "Sathoris is under the impression that you submitted a kill, Kast." - I mean you were strict with LLD on submitting the action choice by PM within the deadline & you didn't remind her too. If each Mafia-ite thought the other was submitting the kill, it points to a lack of coordination on their part and hence, no Mafia kill should have occurred. Would have lead to a Iece-Sath-Me endgame. Would have given either me or town a good chance to win - since we would have no lynched and Sathoris would decide who would have won by killing one of me or Iece. I prefer consistent molding across a game.
This isn't a very accurate account. If you bothered reading the QT, then it should be obvious why he posted that. Mafia discussed and organized what we were going to do. I submitted my action and got a PM from RC that I could not do my action (essentially that Sathoris ALREADY HAD my Role-Block). So we then submitted conditional actions depending on whether RC's PM was correct or not. RC posted that in QT because it was HIS mistake that created the confusion.

For that matter, from the beginning of the game I was told I could Gift Items AND Use Items any Items I already gifted on the same night, but this was later changed to Nerf us.

My team did a good job, the only thing I'd change would be to have Fitz push harder against Ooba regarding the mass block counter claim. He had the momentum and advantage in that he claimed first (before Ooba had even claimed anything). If he pushed hard instead of backing down and downgrading his counter claim, we'd have won that much sooner and easier.

Overall thought the game was scum-favored.
-SK should have had 1-Shot BP instead of just Night 1 BP. The Mass-Block doesn't help SK much (unless he could kill AND mass block).
-Town was crippled by nerfed PRs in the hands of competent town, incompetent or dead town in control of the useful PRs.
-Kdub and Iec played great town games. Kdub had our team pegged from D1 (and not in a I'm-about-to-be-lynched-so-I'll-PoE-scum-and-still-get-it-wrong way like Fate :P) Iec was saddled with a nigh insane cop that investigated ALL of the mafia as townies and one townie (plus any framed town) as scum.
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