My Little Pony Mafia - GENOCIDAL FRIENDSHIP PONIES

[hohum]

You said there wouldn't be two town aligned neighborizers in the game. Yeah I guess so, but we've only got one town aligned neighborizer in the game.

That's correct. In other news: you aren't the town aligned neighborizer.

[Jahudo]

How did you expect the role mechanic to work? I wasn't told how it would work but I assume you just get a PM with a link to a QT saying you and "so and so" can talk there for one night as unconfirmed neighbors.

On another note I just realized inHIm is still scum.

Vote: inHim

[Twilight Sparkle]

Day 3, Votecount #1

Jahudo:

GlaDOS, hohum, Primate (L-2)

LobsterCatapult:

Pinkie Pie

Inhimshallibe:

Jahudo

Not voting:

LobsterCatapult, Inhimshalibe, Feysal, Charlie

Day 3 deadline

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-08-07 22:25:00), so that's the 8th of July at 3:25am Irish time. (Or 10:25 East Coast of America)

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

[inHimshallibe]

How did you expect the role mechanic to work? I wasn't told how it would work but I assume you just get a PM with a link to a QT saying you and "so and so" can talk there for one night as unconfirmed neighbors.

On another note I just realized inHIm is still scum.

Vote: inHim

ORLY.

vote: Jahudo

You WERE fishing. If you were town-aligned, you'd have taken hohum's comment and run with the "lynch that person then" angle.

[inHimshallibe]

L-1

[Pinkie Pie]

Oh my are you guys leaving this juicy hammer for me?

There is something my little pony senses don't like, but I'm not quite sure what it is right now.
I guess we can deal with it after Jahudo.

[Jahudo]

lol no I wasn't role fishing. that's funny though

[Charlie]

My, my, how quickly you got to L-1, princess. Here is something overdue. It's from my notes made during N2.

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Page 16

Noted Equinox Townread, proceeding...
CES + Equinox interaction is warm. Nice.
inHimshallibe + Gammagooey > Fluttershy
Jahudo +1 verbrosity. I get the message, it has content, but geez; why can't it be made shorter? + 1 headache.

Considering labeling of Jahudo + Equinox as Town, who's left...

Page 17

Noted that Equinox bet to eat rope.
Nothing else notable on this page. Jahudo is consistent in posting stuff, though.

Page 18

Page where Jahudo claimed, wish I had read this way earlier. Crumbs all pointed out, why not just say "oh look at my avatar"?
*Red panda effect at 443 + 444, trying to ignore.

Page 19

Noted CES used mu;micro instead of gamma.

Lynching lurker after lurker is a bad practice. Its better to get it right mid-game the first time.

Interesting, I would like to know more about how this works?
Can't form a read on CES.

Page 20 & 21

490 to be scrutinized, revising read on Feysal's player slot.
Lynch and flips on page 21, no comment.

Page 22

Dangnabbit, everything Cogito Ergo Sum says is so surreal.
No comment on the rest of the page except lurkers popping in now and then makes me think one of Pinkie Pie + Fluttershy +1 Discord

Page 23

Noted GLaDOS read of the entire game was within 3.5 hours. (Note to self: learn this skill)
Point noted about Fluttershy: Pinkie Pie lynch > Fluttershy based on what he said.
Mina retrospective analysis, by Charile: She said she isn't really enjoying the game, right... probably because of outside of game factors, but how about taking a look at

maybe

she isn't happy with how her scumbuddies are playing? Look out for links that suggest this.

Page 24

Jahudo +1 funny. GLaDOS + 2 sarcasm.
At this point I give up trying to fit Jahudo into Friendship or Discord. He's pretty much a candidate to be dealt with in hypothetical LyLo to me.
GLaDOS + 1 Friendship.
GLaDOS just gave Jahudo +2 Friendship.

Page 25 & 26

GLaDOS +1 meta-analysis
Looks like Pinkie Pie crossed the GLaDOS line.
632 seems like a good baseline to proceed.

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It was really fun to read the game namely because you

ponies

people are so entertaining. Here is my final compiled list from Friendship to Discord.

hohum
Primate
Inhimshallibe
GlaDOS
Jahudo
Cogito Ergo Sum
Pinkie Pie
LobsterCatapult
Feysal

[Charlie]

Jahudo, comment on your impending lynch?

[Jahudo]

I changed my avatar after I claimed.

What did Equinox say in 490 to make you change your mind on Espy/Feysal?

About my wagon, maybe the people who wanted to lynch me day 1 were only holding off day 2 for my power? I don't know why hohum is surprised my power didn't work like he expected it to.
This wagon happened fast without much new info from what I can see, and no apparent Mina-Jahudo connections yet, but I can understand a build up of people not liking my play over the course of several days and just wanting to be rid of me after we get the benefit of lynching a scum and getting some breathing room. It is probably for the best that I am not around late in the game for that reason.
I'm still pretty sure inHim is scum and that I should be around to help the right wagons go through, but not if the way I present my ideas is distracting the rationale behind it.
So yeah, I'm okay with getting lynched.

[Charlie]

Ah, chronology of avatar change noted. My apologies for assuming stuff.

Jahudo, he probed the possibility of the main arguers being Town. This made me think that wel'll find the forces of Discord in lurking players. Which, brings me to a question...

Would you help me lynch Pinkie Pie Today?

[Pinkie Pie]

Oh damn you're not even gonna try and be discreet about it are you.

I love how that final list is based off of the pretense that the last 5 pages don't exist as well.

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

Unvote: Jahudo

to prevent a hammer. I'll keep the case to five main points.

1.)

Mina supported Jahudo’s claim with a weak dismissal of conjecture in Post 483. Mina also never gave a Town/Scum opinion on Jahudo, even though for all of Day One Mina was constantly talking about the “Jahudo v inHim” situation. If I were judging solely based on Mina's posts, I think Jahudo looks to be the most likely partner.

2.)

The one time Jahudo was put on the spot to talk about Mina on Day One by hohum in Post 324 (where hohum suggested a compromise lynch on Mina), Jahudo – despite apparently being online at the time – did not answer for over a day, and eventually deferred to “compromise” lynch either Fluttershy or WLC in Post 344. But he did not openly agree to compromise on Mina.

3.)

On Day One of this game, Jahudo claimed he doesn’t like to make mountains out of molehills for pressure purposes in the hopes of hitting a gold mine in Post 291. This is in fact the

exact

opposite of what Jahudo claims he does as Town the last time I played with him in Karma Mafia (he was Town):

I understand the argument that pushing Richard or lurkers is an easy way out for scum right now, but each can be valid cases for this early day 1 stage when cases aren't always big or full of confidence.

The idea is to make a mountain out of a molehill and see if it leads to more suspicious behavior. Anyone trying to stop it from occurring at all looks anti-town to me...

but not necessarily scum and definitely not defending richard/lurkers.

4.)

hohum is correct that the other Neighborizer in this game works

very

differently from Jahudo’s version. But I won't go into details.

I’m actually surprised Jahudo even

has

a Neighborizer power – I figured he was just bluffing after he conveniently didn’t Neighborize anybody for Night One. If he is Town, the Moderator was very cruel to make another Neighborizer so blatantly more powerful and useful than Jahudo's. (In fact, it’s rather cruel if Jahudo is Scum, too, but I’m not particularly sympathetic on that front).

5.)

Jahudo was Gammagooey’s top suspect on Day One, and then he died on Night One. And then on Day Two, Jahudo immediately jumped to analyzing the WLC-wagon, possibly in attempt to draw attention away from the Gammagooey kill.

[Pinkie Pie]

I want to hear from Feysal before the day ends.

Then we can go ahead with the Jahudo lynch.

[Charlie]

Pinkie Pie, I entered the game at that point. There is no need for catch up reading. >_>

[Katsuki]

Pinkie Pie, I entered the game at that point. There is no need for catch up reading. >_>

I wasn't aware that you've provided content on pages since replacing in.

Maybe now is a good time to start.

[Charlie]

"So should you"

[Jahudo]

I have a feeling Mina didn't want to weigh in on Jahudo/inHim because inHim is scum actually. Maybe you can look into that possibility if I die first.

Yes and the reason I wasn't willing to compromise was because she had more excused V/LA than the others. Her lack of content didn't look like lurking at the time and there were focus concerns with the other two.

Karma mafia was 1 year and 5 months ago. My opinion on how best to scumhunt has changed since then, although peer pressure has gotten the best of me a few times this game. These are all pretty consistent games recently:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=16122
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 23&t=16245
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 23&t=16808
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=16813

I'm lost on this second neighborizer discussion and don't see how that power can be more useful without being a masonizer. My power sounds pretty standard for 1 shot neighborizer.

I typically analyze lynch wagons what's so odd about that? Gamma being the NK for that reason is just WIFOM. Its as easy to assume he was the NK for not being under suspicion or for being an active townie or for being known as a good player who can change his mind.

[Pinkie Pie]

"So should you"

I've already caught scum.

[inHimshallibe]

My power sounds pretty standard for 1 shot neighborizer.

Not really.

[Primate]

Ok pinkie pie gets town points for bravado.


PS: My power sounds pretty standard for [ambigous role].

[inHimshallibe]

{Tier 2: CES, Fluttershy, inHimshallibe, Primate
Tier 3: GlaDOS, Jahudo*, Ojanen} (The division between Tier 2 and 3 was kind of a grey zone.)

This is where the scum are. Probably one in Tier 2 and one in Tier 3.


Soooooo, Jahudo Tier 3 and Fluttershy/Primate Tier 2. Easy peasy.

[Primate]

<-- Not scum

[inHimshallibe]

<-- Not scum

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Feysal/Espeonage. I'd like to explore our Fluttershy options before that time, though.

[Primate]

Feysals a decent player. Hopefully he'll kick up in a bit and help us get a proper read on that slot.