Open 317 Masons & Monks (Game Over) Finished: September 8

[DeityKabuto]

Only scum are interested in a town's role, why? So they will have a better idea who to lynch. Thus why my vote remains on you, more role fishing.

[cjdrum]

Two things:

You still haven't explained how your role tells you all these things

You didn't answer the question anyway

Why me, and not smallpeoples or Scott Brosius?
(the others are either dead or claimed, so what about these two?)

And what about Cirno? She was definitely around to help with getting a lynch for D1, yet left her vote on me. Distancing, maybe?
And, DK... Chevre and YankCane, what do you think of their votes?

[cjdrum]

Chevre and YankCane are in a similar boat to Cirno in that respect, IMHO.

Also, smallpeoples' vote post said nothing. It was literally

UNVOTE: VOTE: DCJ

So, DK. More explanation of why me, please.


As for your "role fishing" thing, too... Not lynching is nearly never a good idea. DCJ was the only person that the general consensus seemed to be okay with lynching, so that's what happened. If we hadn't have lynched, we would still be guessing at DCJ's interactions with people (e.g. Blackberry), because we wouldn't know his role.

[YankCane151]

I can't really find many partnerships looking through BB's ISO. He mentioned Cirno early as town then later as scum, but he was mostly over DCJ the whole time. He was also after CJ to an extent. It's just a matter of how much you want to trust Werewolf opinions because in this setup scum needs to scumhunt to an extent too. Not sure what to make of it yet.

[DeityKabuto]

There are 3 scum left (2 Mafia and 1 Werewolf)

9 players alive, leaving 6 town, I would be okay with a mass claim tomorrow.

The people on the mislynch wagon:
Darkcoffeejazz - 7 - (Darkcoffeejazz, BlackBerry, cjdrum, smallpeoples343, Guido Crescendo, Scott Brosius, DeityKabuto) (L-0)

The results of night:
BlackBerry the Werewolf killed by Mafia Night 1
VitaminR the Mason killed by Werewolves Night 1

Bound to me staggering scum on the wagon, suspects:
cjdrum
Scott Brosius
SmallPeople343

Probably town:
YankCane151
Chevre
Tomie Uzumaki

Null:
Guido Crescendo (Hydra's confuse me)
Cirno (Null, leaning town)

Town:
DeityKabuto (I don't want to claim just yet)

With that said cjdrum, it's less about reasoning and more about logistics. I feel way safer lynching someone who caused the mis-lynch. Right now, there is one Werewolf left, so that guy might be flying under the radar, and 2 Mafia who might support each other or distance away, it depends. Cjdrum, since you are actually commenting to my attacks, that actually scares me a bit and may sway to having Scott or smallpeoples lynched today instead.

If we have another mislynch today, the results would be:

Night Phase:
2 Mafia Alive
1 Werewolf Alive
4 Town Alive

R1: (two kills during night)
2 Mafia Alive
1 Werewolf Alive
1 Towns Alive

R2: two kills during night)
2 Mafia Alive Alive
0 Werewolf Alive
3 Town Alive

R3: (two kills during night)
1 Mafia Alive
1 Werewolf Alive
2 Town Alive

[DeityKabuto]

^ Oh so yeah, we better take our time today, because we don't want a mislynch occur, this is LyLo day for town.

[cjdrum]

I cannot express in words how stupid I believe waiting for scummy people to be nk'd is.

lol

...Wanna help me get a flip then?

DK, even if it was a scumtell, who said this? That's right. Not me.

Also, about your "questioning Guido is anti-town because he'll still be around tomorrow or he won't be". That shit was dumb. Real dumb.

lol


Also, main push for DCJ's lynch == Guido Crescendo. Jus' sayin'.

[DeityKabuto]

Also, main push for DCJ's lynch == Guido Crescendo. Jus' sayin'.

Hmm... can you provide examples?

We may settle on a Guido lynch afterall.

[cjdrum]

#285 is the first serious mention of DCJ being scum, slightly
#327 is slightly more straight up
#395 is instantly into "DCJ==scum" territory
#463 encourages BB to vote DCJ, too...
THIS.

Thing is, the most likely place I would put him is as a Werewolf (due to BB interactions), but he's claimed Monk (with a confirm from the other), so...

I don't think I, personally, like the idea of a Guido lynch. I was mainly just saying why you had it wrong

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote Cirno

Cirno appears scummy when Guido quoted her on Post #395.

[DeityKabuto]

Also, I don't think that Guido is good news either, he is a bit forceful with his words, kind of pro-town but is a potential candidate for scum.

[Thor665]

A-hoy-hoy.

I'm replacing Tomie.
I have a beard.
OMG I have 29 pages to read, I could have sworn the replace in request said 20. I'm not going back to check, I'll just presume the mod is evil.
OMGWTFLOL DK is on Day 2 in a game!?! Does this mean I get to see awesome scumhunting powah from him now? Joy!

Okay, I usually manage about 5 pages at a stretch when reading, sometimes more/less depending on walls and how much I want to screech about how "town is throwing it all away" and/or moans about bad play. I'm probably at least two days to read up on all of this, maybe more or less, I'll keep you updated but would expect my first big catchup post to happen tomorrow with probably a part 2 later that day or the next.

People should also tell me who I need to be voting, I love sheeping and will probably just follow you blindly.

Also - I've never been replaced, ever, so this slot's problems end now.

[Mist7676]

I don't think we killed vitamin but ok. X.x

" SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!!! GHOST AGHHHRGGHH!!" Mist runs to her room and grabs an ectoplasm vacuum and sucks up BlackBerry's ghost. "Phew now that that's over let's move on."

Another outburst like that BB will get you modkilled.

OMG I have 29 pages to read, I could have sworn the replace in request said 20. I'm not going back to check, I'll just presume the mod is evil.

1. I didn't say anything about how many pages to read...
2. I AM evil

[YankCane151]

Mod: If tomorrow or any day comes down to 2 Mafia, 1 Werewolf, and 1 Townie, is that an autowin for Mafia?

[Mist7676]

Mafias win when they equal or outnumber remaining players or nothing could prevent the same.

In that situation Mafia would win because the equal the remaining players.

[YankCane151]

Right, that makes it a bit more vital that we hit mafia today.

[DeityKabuto]

[quote="YankCrane151]Right, that makes it a bit more vital that we hit mafia today.[/quote]

As I already had explained ^^

A-hoy-hoy.

I'm replacing Tomie.
I have a beard.
OMG I have 29 pages to read, I could have sworn the replace in request said 20. I'm not going back to check, I'll just presume the mod is evil.
OMGWTFLOL DK is on Day 2 in a game!?! Does this mean I get to see awesome scumhunting powah from him now? Joy!

Okay, I usually manage about 5 pages at a stretch when reading, sometimes more/less depending on walls and how much I want to screech about how "town is throwing it all away" and/or moans about bad play. I'm probably at least two days to read up on all of this, maybe more or less, I'll keep you updated but would expect my first big catchup post to happen tomorrow with probably a part 2 later that day or the next.

People should also tell me who I need to be voting, I love sheeping and will probably just follow you blindly.

Also - I've never been replaced, ever, so this slot's problems end now.

Ahoy! Read Post #704, the suspects are the people you need to look at, also go back a few and check out major wagons on D1, and skim a bit.

--

YankCrane, do you mind settling and voting somebody from my suspects list?

I don't want to get the impression that you don't want to buss your partner.

[YankCane151]

Right, right. I'll go back to smallpeoples for now.

vote: Smallpeoples343

[Cirno]

I only voted DCJ because WE NEEDED A LYNCH.

Called it. Let the shirking of responsibility begin. Also, didn't you say you voted DCJ because Guido's case "enlightened" you, that you "now see where Guido is coming from"?

Add "immediately trying to deflect responsibility for his vote on anybody else the second he is voted" to the reasons cjdrum is scum.

VOTE: cjdrum

Also, you are gonna have to explain two things:
1.Why is it scummy to not vote for a person I have called town from the moment I replaced in?
2.Why is any quote in 706 scummy?

Is english your first language? I'm asking this seriously, not as an insult.

Other people I find suspicious:

DK - Lying about his role. Constantly accusing people of rolefishing when they question him about it. Attacking cj for the sole reason of being on dcj wagon (even though DK was on it himself) and then changing his vote when he is unable to explain why cj's vote is different from any other vote on the wagon. Also, his behavior in the last two pages is very different from his 66 pages of being town (before being modkilled) in our other game. Yes, i went out of my way to mention that he was modkilled.

smallpeoples - Lurking, active lurking, ignoring questions, shamelessly bandwagoning

Ignoring Guido. Moving Chevre to null. Plotting ways to get Thor killed as is my duty. Not bothering with the rest of you unless I find reason to.

[DeityKabuto]

Cirno, I can attack people on the wagon because I am a town role, which I made pretty obvious, and I probably will be killed tonight so I will go ahead and claim Mason, partner of VitaminR.

So you can take me off your suspects list.

Also, you are gonna have to explain two things:
1.Why is it scummy to not vote for a person I have called town from the moment I replaced in?
2.Why is any quote in 706 scummy?

I am tired of the constant tunneling between you and cjdrum, Cirno if you are town say so now, so I will have a more solid list of suspects.

[Cirno]

DK, I am assuming your "if you are town say so now" is referring to "vanilla townie". We already know who the monks are and you are claiming mason, so EVERYBODY ELSE is going to claim vanilla townie.

No, I will not refrain from attacking my suspects.
No, your claim does not change my opinion of you and neither will my opinion change based upon your suggestion to do so.

[DeityKabuto]

DK, I am assuming your "if you are town say so now" is referring to "vanilla townie". We already know who the monks are and you are claiming mason, so EVERYBODY ELSE is going to claim vanilla townie.

No, I will not refrain from attacking my suspects.
No, your claim does not change my opinion of you and neither will my opinion change based upon your suggestion to do so.

um all I'm saying is that I don't think cjdrum is the best lynch right now, your the only one chasing him and he could easily turnout as a mislynch, my gut is saying he won't be lynched today but I still suspect him

I am saying there are better people who may be more scummier like Guido, for example

Also, I said if you are a Town-aligned role, say so now.

Vitamin and I were both Mason partners, that leaves Monk, and they are probably Werewolfs, one of them is alive.

If you can't simply repeat "I have a Town role", than that would be saying you are scum therefore you are worthy of my vote.

Unvote
Vote Cirno

FoS Cjdrum

FoS Guido

FoS Smallpeoples

FoS Scott

No, your claim does not change my opinion of you and neither will my opinion change based upon your suggestion to do so.

Are you failing to accept the fact that I am a town role? o.o

[YankCane151]

Masons can still be werewolves as Monks can still be mafia, but I don't see a connection between you and BB so I Believe the claim for now.

[DeityKabuto]

Masons can still be werewolves as Monks can still be mafia, but I don't see a connection between you and BB so I Believe the claim for now.

Cool. Now can you bring up your previous case on smallpeoples, a link to it, please?

[YankCane151]

He wasn't answering questions early on and was lurking, I never made an official case though.