Fall of the Matrix: Game Over!

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:36 am

STOP COMPLAINING AND VOTE

DeathNote · Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:06 pm

No... it doesn't make sense.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:18 pm

Zindaras claimed scum. He already claimed scum.

DeathNote · Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:21 pm

Why would he claim scum in a lylo situation? Fool? I just dont get it.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:37 pm

So that's how it's going to be. A war of attrition. I'll see you at deadline, buddy. A short visit to you at night to pull your teeth out like the dentist. Burn your prints. No-identifiers, know-what-i-mean?

Zindaras · Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:38 pm

DeathNote's playing quite intelligently, Albert. He doesn't trust you. And why would he, really? He knows he's in a Prisoner's Dilemma. It's just a matter of figuring out how many scum there really are.

Ask yourself, town: why is Albert still alive? Scum would've won already had they killed Albert last night. But they didn't. Care to guess why?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:43 pm

They were going for a Neo-SK angle when all of the other main characters were town PRs.

lynch lynch

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Anyway your assumption is stupid, if you think I'm SK, just tell your partner to kill me tonight and Kison will win the game. We'll see what he flips.

Zindaras · Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:55 pm

1) There's no Agent Smith. SK with a good fakeclaim is always a great role to put in your game.
2) No mod would be stupid enough to make every single main character in the game a PR.
3) If you die instead of SensFan, the game is already won.
4) We've already tried killing you. We failed. Hence, we don't do it again.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:59 pm

If you succeed this clever gambit, I will not support any nomination for best scum, Zindaras. I almost killed you several times this game lol

ISO · Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:02 pm

Zindaras wrote:4) We've already tried killing you. We failed. Hence, we don't do it again.

When?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:08 pm

Don't buy into his bullshit Kison.

A) He's telling the truth, you lynch me, scum win.

B) He's lying, you lynch him, town wins.

Zindaras · Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:09 pm

Kison wrote:
Zindaras wrote:4) We've already tried killing you. We failed. Hence, we don't do it again.

When?

We were split up into two groups. I reckon the other part of the group is the lone Architect. We can't communicate, but each night, after the Agents decide on the kill target(s), the Architect can choose to veto it, to prevent crosskills (target can't be changed after a veto). We are Vengeful Goons. Upon death, we can make an additional kill. This explains the extra kill on Night 2. On Night 3, I decided to kill Albert. I reckon the Vengefulness is symmetric, so that's why there were three kills on Night 3.

The commuting thing was a gigantic bluff. I needed to survive both lynch and night. The game is symmetrical. Two Goons and a GF.

If you are town, you've got us by the nuts. We can't prevent my lynch. But you still don't win. Lynch me, Albert wins. Lynch Albert, we win. Neither would be intelligent. That's why Albert's talking about it.

What I can offer you is one of two things:
-No lynch. Albert kills a Matrix guy, we can't win (we can't kill him and if we kill you, we still lose). Test my word. Whatever happens, you'll still be in a better situation than you were today.
-Happily ever after. This is basically the only thing town can do to salvage this game. You may distrust me, but I have always had a lot of respect for the way Fritzler played the endgame of Evolution Mafia, and you can trust me on this one.

Zindaras · Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:23 pm

I ask this of you, Kison: does it make sense for a scumteam to just let a game slip like we would've done if I were lying? Kill Albert and win. Kill SensFan and have to play more endgame.

ISO · Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:42 pm

Are you admitting that Death Note is your partner.

Zindaras · Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:04 pm

I have no bloody clue. I know it's not Albert. If it's not you, it must be DeathNote. You already knew this.

Mastermind of Sin · Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:42 am

Vote Count #28:

Everything that has a beginning has an end. I see the end coming, I see the darkness spreading. I see death. - The Oracle

Zindaras (2) - (Kison, Albert B. Rampage)

No Lynch (1) - Zindaras

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline will only be shortened if at least 3 people request it.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:08 am

request deadline

Zindaras · Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:14 am

Albert's desire to rush through the day is only indicative of how important it is

not

to rush.

DeathNote · Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:06 am

Assuming 3 scum left, game is over for town and I can't win.

Assuming 2 scum left:
*Me plus Albert means best lynch is Zindaris and town wins if he shoots correct.
*Me plus Kison means best bet is Zindaris or no lynch assuming Zindaris is telling the trust about vengeful kill. He kills Albert and town wins but only if it works that way. Otherwise, we can no lynch and hope for cross kill again in which Albert would still survive.
*Me plus Zindaris isn't possible as he claimed scum.

Looks like my best option is to lynch Zindaris or to no lynch and seeing as I dont trust Albert...

Vote: No Lynch

This really will only work if Zindaris kills Albert with both his night kill and vengekill but again... if he is telling the truth and I am the last towie... what difference does it make.

Zindaras · Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:23 am

There's three scum left. I can promise you this. If it's not you, DN, it must be Kison.

Zindaras · Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:24 am

I'm willing to offer you the same deal I offered Kison. No lynch and take a gander or go happily ever after.

ISO · Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:30 am

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

Zindaras · Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:48 am

A rather sadly obstinate point of view to take given the fact that you can easily realise that Albert

has

to be SK. You may not trust me, but the actions speak for themselves. Win if Albert is killed. Albert is not killed. Hence, something must be up.

Don't negotiate with terrorists. Hahaha. Let me just laugh at that for a moment. Every single government in this world negotiates with terrorists. It's just that it's okay when they're terrorising

other

people. And that's the same situation you find yourself in now. Town (whichever one of you is town) is in a PD. You're not going to win it through action.

DeathNote · Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:45 am

I wonder.... Maybe Albert is the Architect? Perhaps he is a type of mafia/sk. Aligned with the Matrix mafia but can not win with them? At this point, Kison as the other matrix Architect doesn't make since cause it would be a 2v1v1 or a 2v2. He could have easily gone for a Albert or me lynch but instead chose to pick his scum partner. That is why I dont believe Kison to be scum.

Kison, if you are town... then a no lynch is your only option. Albert really wants Zindaris dead and the odds of him being last scum are not very good, but lets suppose Zind is final mafia. Then lynching him today makes no difference then lynching him tomorrow. I suggest we wait and hope that Zind holds true to killing Albert.