NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[mastin2]

LLD-Kunkstar interactions are both a waste of time and looking like definitely not townVtown.

We'll deal with LLD later.

Chair dies first. They're at L-1.
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[Chair]

HEY MASTIN. STOP IGNORING ME AND RESPOND TO 1155.

[Chair]

1155, 1273, 1304, now this. Are you ignoring me on purpose or just not reading what your top suspect at L-1 is saying because you don't want to respond to it?

[mastin2]

Honestly, my refusal to answer is itself the answer. There's literally nothing in 1155 I see the need to answer. Your continued pushing of a garbage-post for me to answer is confirmation you're scum.

[Chair]

if spyrex survives to endgame as scum, i am going to PM every townie that was on my lynch wagon an individualized PM about why I hate you.

P-Edit: what the actual fuck. You're supposed to be town, mastin...

[Chair]

Honestly, my refusal to answer is itself the answer. There's literally nothing in 1155 I see the need to answer. Your continued pushing of a garbage-post for me to answer is confirmation you're scum.

1155 was a reasoned post about why your pushing on me didn't make sense. Why are you refusing to answer this.

NO ONE HAD BETTER HAMMER ME UNTIL MASTIN RESPONDS TO 1155.

[Chair]

Hey mastin, I just actually decided to look at the post where you voted us. For some reason I never actually really looked at it.

{SpyreX, Knight of Cydonia, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, saporovirus}
Sapo's one of the scum. Since all three of KoC, Kayne, and Yos2 are on the wagon, that means that SpyreX is more likely town, which makes Chair looking far more likely scum.

What wagon is this referring to? The Empking lynchwagon?

Empking (8):

SpyreX

, Knight of Cydonia, T-Bone, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, Oversoul, Hiraki, saporovirus

UT wagon?

Untrod Tripod (9): Chair, mastin2, T-Bone, Ethos, Hiraki, Knight of Cydonia, MrZepher, Yosarian2, kunkstar7

lack of kanye

Apart from this, you don't really seem to have any reason that you fos us over SpyreX, yet we're one of your bigger scumreads. In fact, you partially derived your scumread on us from a scumread on saporovirus, yet we're a bigger scumread than she is. Why?

A "garbage post." Or as I would phrase it; a post that points out something in mastin's post which was not clarified and asks him to clarify it, something which I might add

was mastin's entire given reason for suddenly changing from spyrexfos to chairfos.

if mastin is somehow scum, spyrex is town (See: ethos push, sudden change from spy to me which would be too obvious) in which case kanye is a probable scumbuddy. Possibly with kunkstar.

[mastin2]

Yup. Chair is flailing scum at last minute. Like I said.

There's nothing in 1155 for me to respond to.

I looked at it, and double-checked the numbers. Multiple times.
In fact, I did it every time you asked me about it.

And every time, I wondered. "...Is that really the post Chair wants me to respond to? That can't be right. There's nothing there I need to address!"

Your last-minute suspicion on me for my refusal to answer a junk-post and your sudden Spy-could-be-town outlook on things, makes you confirmed scum.

[Chair]

So mastin. 1155 had... one, two, three questions addressed at you. Why are you refusing to answer them? If I was wrong and miscounted a wagon or forgot someone, please point it out. If you had some reason for the vote change that you didn't at the time point out, please point it out now.

There is no town motivation whatsoever for refusing to answer a question that has been directed at you five times especially from someone in my position.

Yes i'm flailing because you're pissing me the fuck off. No i'm not flailing as scum.

[Chair]

I looked at it, and double-checked the numbers. Multiple times.
In fact, I did it every time you asked me about it.

And every time, I wondered. "...Is that really the post Chair wants me to respond to? That can't be right. There's nothing there I need to address!"

This is either bad sarcasm or dishonesty. 1155 addressed you directly.

[Magister Ludi]

Mastin only operates in pirate logic, can't see out with two eyepatches on, yarrrr.

[mastin2]

So mastin. 1155 had... one, two, three questions addressed at you. Why are you refusing to answer them?

They're fluff, they're useless, they're junk, they're garbage, they're an attempt to pass something off as legitimate scumhunting when it's not (active lurking), they're obsolete, they're pointless, they have no purpose...

Seriously, why WOULD I answer them?

There is no town motivation whatsoever for refusing to answer a question that has been directed at you five times especially from someone in my position.

There's no town motivation for cluttering the thread by responding to garbage.

This is either bad sarcasm or dishonesty. 1155 addressed you directly.

Yes, you addressed me directly.
No, that doesn't mean I need to address the post back. Twisting words for the win!

[mastin2]

Speaking of which,

There's no town motivation for cluttering the thread by responding to garbage.

Makes me wonder why I've been bothering with this conversation at all.

I'm talking to scum.

That's my mistake, here.

Assuming anything reasonable can come from trying to convince scum that they're scum.

[Chair]

Ah. On rereading 1070, the argument makes sense (insofar as the line of logic is there, even if convoluted). However, this remark still stands:

In fact, you partially derived your scumread on us from a scumread on saporovirus, yet we're a bigger scumread than she is.

If you had clarified your argument you could have saved this trouble... why didn't you just, idk, clarify your damn argument?

Also: lets say i'm scum. Why is it bad to continue arguing with me?

[Chair]

Also, final list of reads if we're hammered:

MAY AS WELL BE INNOCENT CHILDREN: yos2, oversoul, idher. PROBABLY TOWN BUT WHO KNOWS: Ludi, LLD, zepher. ANOMALY: mastin. HEY THEY MIGHT BE SCUM: kunkstar. HEY THEY ARE SCUM: kkb, spyrex.

-implosion

Vig shoots spyrex or kanye tonight if they have more than one shot or i tear their head off and feed it to wildebeests in postgame after the scum win, which at this rate, they are going to do.

[SpyreX]

I could be town now and KKB is the confirmed scum?
But I'm scum in the reads?
KKB is scum regardless of anything?

Cool stories.

[Chair]

I could be town now and KKB is the confirmed scum?
But I'm scum in the reads?
KKB is scum regardless of anything?

Cool stories.

If mastin is scum, then you are probably town. Mastin's behavior is giving me some doubt to the scumread on you because of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD-Kunkstar interactions are both a waste of time and looking like definitely not townVtown.

We'll deal with LLD later.

Chair dies first. They're at L-1.
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If Kunk is town, Mastin is scum for this post.

[Yosarian2]

Reeeally don't like Mastin's posting in the last page or two. He's refusing to answer questions, he's pretty much saying that both chair and LL are scum, which dosn't make any real sense, and he's pretty much refusing to justify his chair vote at all, right before the lynch, which I just hate. I had Mastin as probable town a few pages ago, but he's drifting downwards pretty fast.

[MrZepher]

Wait, where did Mastin call LL scum?
What I got out of it is that he sees Kunkstar scum

I could be blatantly missing something though.

[Yosarian2]

Wait, where did Mastin call LL scum?
What I got out of it is that he sees Kunkstar scum

I could be blatantly missing something though.

LLD-Kunkstar interactions are both a waste of time and looking like definitely not townVtown.

We'll deal with LLD later.

Chair dies first. They're at L-1.
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I'd assume "we'll deal with LLD later" and "chair dies first" implies that he wants to lynch LLD tomorrow.

He also had just recently called the slot "scum", although he mentioned he was somewhat less convinced.

[MrZepher]

Wut.

The way I read it, if that wasn't a TvT interaction that's all on Kunk.

[Îdher]

I'm aware of the deadline, but I'm not caught up and I'm typing this post from a 15-minute break in a course I joined last week. I'll see what I can do after class.

-Ether

[SpyreX]

I sure didn't see that as saying BOTH were scum, but that one of is and if kunk isn't then LLD is.

Which isn't awesome, but not what you're makin it out to be.

[mastin2]

Yos2, you're skimming.

I can tell because you think I'm refusing to answer questions.

I can also tell, because you fail to realize LLD replaced Sapo, and therefore already has the third spot on my scumlist.
And I can tell further, because of the above, that you didn't realize that I've called a Chair-KoC/Ludi-Sapo/LLD scumteam, with my suspicion quite clearly listed in that exact order of strength. (Albeit only just--Chair and Ludi are quite close.) In other words, (how many times will I say it before it sticks?)
Do I think LLD's scum?
Yes.

Do I think LLD should be lynched today?

No, because LLD's the weakest of my suspects and the one most likely to be wrong.

(Oh, and that unattentiveness from Yosarian2 also makes me lean stronger town on him than I was before.)

Way I see it,
{Chair, SpyreX} are both opposite alignments. {KoC/Ludi, Kayne} are both very likely opposite alignments. {Sapo/LLD, Kunkstar} are both almost certainly opposite alignments.

I've made it pretty clear that this is because all of their interactions aren't townVtown. (Interactions are my primary scumhunting method nowadays.)