Mini 1186: Repo! The Genetic Mafia - Game Over!


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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:39 pm

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Ah that be trip by another name. ^^
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:12 pm

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bvoigt wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:(3) In defending Incog, Yos conjures up this serving of congealed scumminess plucked from the lush fields of scumdom: “Inconstancy [GC note: “inconsistency”] is a town tell.” Uh… no. Inconsistency is a scum tell. It’s how you catch scum in lies. Oh yeah – he also used “inconsistency” (because it’s suspicious, see?) as one of his reasons to vote Pere. Hey, that’s inconsistent in and of itself! I think we may have entered into the meta-zone.


One of his reasons for voting Peregrine was "calling Haylen town while still voting for her." To me, this is an accusation of inconsistency with reads...a vote on a town read. But, like you said, Yos believes that inconsistency is a town tell. I feel like he may have been trying to push the mislynch of PereV with poor reasoning.


Not THAT kind of inconstancy, silly.

If someone is voting for someone and defending them at the same time, or attacking someone and defending them at the same time, or anything like that, it can be a significant scumtell. Scum know that the person they are attacking is town, and on some level they often admit it. More then that, scum know that if they get the person actually lynched they'll look bad, so they try to plant weasel words, to have it both ways. Scum rarely totally commit to an attack on someone they know is town, it's risky. It's similar to what I was attacking GC for on day 1.

The kind of inconsistency that I think is a town tell is different. If someone is attacking person A on day 1, but not attacking them on day 2; or if someone calls out person A for lurking but dosn't go after person B who's lurking just as bad; or calls something a scum tell in one situation but ignores it in another situation, or is opposed to a mass claim on day 2 but in favor of it on day 3, ect, people often attack them for "inconsistency". But I've found that that's not a reliable scum tell at all; in fact, it's usually a town tell. There's always a thousand little differences between person A and person B, and a townie who's actually scumhunting isn't just paying attention to the one scumtell, they're looking at behavior, meta, gut, all kinds of things. Or they change their mind about something as they get new information, or as the situation in the game changes. So they seem "inconsistant". Scum, on the other hand, tend to be very consistant; they're not relying on gut, they're not reading way to much into the exact way words are parsed or whatever to try to tell the difference between scum and dumb lurking townies, they're usually relying more heavily on simple, easy to understand arguments to make cases against people, and they usually carefully re-read their old posts to make sure they stay consistant, to make sure they're not doing anything they could be called out for. Townies generally don't care, they just do what seems right, and usually end up looking inconstant.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:48 pm

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Egad! Am I a goner? Is that how you spell that? Looks like go-ner rather than gon-er. Sigh. Oh well.

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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:14 pm

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Wow Yos, can't help but wonder why you didn't lynch me last game! Out of curiosity, what do you think of GC today?
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:30 am

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Was about to ask for a claim out of Trip, but I ISO'd him first. Looks like I blinked and missed his claim. I find the claim plausible but unlikely. It's just too obscure, when Repo! hardly lacks for enough characters to fill a mini. Otherwise, I'm not an especially big fan of the case on Trip, but Incog clearly isn't the lynch for today, and Trip is. I'll take an informative lynch that some of my Town-reads are advocating over a no-lynch ten days out of ten.

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THIS IS INTENT TO HAMMER.

Trip, please make a final post with your outgoing reads and last words. It will be heartily ignored if you flip scum, and taken seriously if you flip Town.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:52 am

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The obscurity of Trip's claim in no way adds to his scumminess. Don't hammer over that.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:13 am

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Less then 6 hours to deadline now.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:27 am

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@Yos: I guess that makes sense. (Also, I didn't realize inconstancy was a real word.)
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:28 am

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Incognito (3) - Pine, TripMyWire, Medicated Lain
TripMyWire (5) - bvoigt, Yosarian2, Incognito, Thor665, camn
Yosarian2 (1) - Green Crayons
bvoigt (1) - Haylen

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch.


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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:01 pm

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- Bee-tee-dubbs, if there is a SK I would guess camn because of her use of "unusual" tactics (name claim, "who would you daykill") and the fact that she brought it up (and SKs would NEVER do that /commonwisdom). I'll be curious what she'll say when she's

- That's a bad reason to hammer, Pine. Attempting to outguess the mod on role names is fruitless at best, scummy at worst.

- Don't know why nobody (besides Lain) listens to me. First with BM, now with Yos. I know why Lain doesn't listen to me. She doesn't even know who she thinks is scum -- she's had something like three vote changes in just about as many days.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:02 pm

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Oh, I didn't finish my first thought. I went to go see if camn promised that she would reveal tomorrow or just suggested that's when she would be willing to spill the beans. My thought was: I'll be curious what she'll say when she's pressured to follow through on that promise.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:11 pm

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I'm here - I want a hammer. I own a Mjolnir, but I want another one.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:21 pm

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I have my smartphone. I'll give Trip until 10:30 EDT (30 minutes before deadline) to post, then make it happen.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:22 pm

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Aww c'mon guys, I'm still at work. I was planning on posting when I got home, but probably won't get there in time before the deadline.
Pine wrote:I find the claim plausible but unlikely. It's just too obscure, when Repo! hardly lacks for enough characters to fill a mini.

Yeah, we know how well it went the last time you hammered someone because of their character. Poor Peregrine. Knowing what we know now, I don't think it's worth basing votes on character claims. I'm sure after tonight's flips you'll finally agree.

I don't have time to write a bunch and pretty much everything I need to say I've already said.

Farewell, my dearest Medicated Lain. I will miss you, my love. See you after work.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:06 pm

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Final D2 VC

Incognito (3) - Pine, TripMyWire, Medicated Lain
TripMyWire (5) - bvoigt, Yosarian2, Incognito, Thor665, camn
Yosarian2 (1) - Green Crayons
bvoigt (1) - Haylen

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch.

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Pine ran at Trip, noose in hand, when the lights suddenly cut out.

It appeared that the mob had run out of time to lynch their target, so now was the time for another intermission. The group walked offstage and waited patiently for the Opera to resume.

It is now Night 2. Send any actions to me within 72 hours; people with a QT may post; Day 3 will begin in 48-72 hours.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:03 am

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The group resumed their previous positions on-stage when they noticed that one of them was missing. The victim was a thief of organic Zydrate. A Graverobber lay in a pool of blood, with a bullet in his head.

The group resumed discussion.


Green Crayons -
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It is now Day 3. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch. Deadline is in three weeks: Friday, August 12th at 1PM EST.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:13 am

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VOTE: TripMyWire

Pine, why didn't you end up hammering?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:20 am

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Terrible day was terrible.

Vote: TripMyWire


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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:23 am

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Just fucked up and was busy. I cannot begin to apologize for that.

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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:57 am

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You have given me good reference material as to why waiting till deadline for hammers is terribad and needless.

Why do I feel like you're trying to start up that Incog wagon again without bringing anything new to the table other than "lol, more time in day na0w!"
I'd rather lynch you than Incog right now, and that's terrible.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:50 am

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Ugh, that was horrible. Why didn't anyone hammer? Pine and ML especally really need to explain themselves.

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On an unrelated note, I am going to be V/LA for the next week, from tommorow through the 31st.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:22 am

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I did explain. It was a straight-up clusterfuck. I was expecting to have time to myself right before midnight, but I had a crying, homesick camper who was afraid of non-existent spiders in the bathroom to deal with, and missed the deadline by 10 minutes.

I was never 100% on Trip's lynch, and while I will support it if necessary, I feel Incog is the more likely choice.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:26 am

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I fucked up and was busy too, but I'm not apologising. I
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Bvoigt is a better lynch than any of the others. Seriously, people, go back and read him and his votes ect. Or at least read my case on him!

Why does Pine want to vote for Incog over Trip or Bvoigt?

I really don't get this Trip thing, and yes I have been reading the thread. Although the opportunism in voting for the other major wagon yesterday just as the day begins is prety obvious.

I don't hammer people when I'm convinced another person is scum. Hence my lack of hammer yesterday


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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:55 am

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Haylen wrote:I don't hammer people when I'm convinced another person is scum. Hence my lack of hammer yesterday


You preferred a no-lynch over hammering Trip?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:32 pm

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Also, I'll be V/LA from the 23rd through the 31st, and might not have Internet access.

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