The Brave and the Beautiful 2: Fairy Tales ÔÇô Game Over

[Fate]

ABR had me read as town, correctly, and unvoted.

It makes perfect sense Iece.

If you keep the option that I'm scum open, you're fucked. We went over this rearly D1 Iece, I'm town.

Look me in the eyes and feel it.

[Fate]

I don't do any of the setup bs, but the vibes I've gotten are that fitz was a bus to keep ooba towncred afloat.

Kast+Ooba, I'm not sure why you're asking me my reads when I've been pretty clear about my non-ooba scumread (I was calling abr scum for trolling purposes)

[Fate]

And sathotis as sk, obv.

[Sathoris]

You've certainly changed your approach, Fate. You went from making a case on yourself as scum to trying to convince Iece you're town. Why the change?

[Iecerint]

O_o @ Sath criticizing Fate for playing the game.

[Sathoris]

I'm not criticizing anything. I'm simply curious why he would make a case on himself as scum when he's later trying to tell us he's town when he's on L-1.

What was the point of your early play?

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and Beautiful Vote Count

4.3

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Fate [3] – Kast, Kdub, ooba

Kast [1]

– Fate

Not Voting

– Albert B. Rampage, Iecerint, Sathoris

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With 7 players alive, it is 4 votes to lynch.
Deadline is July 29 at 3pm PST (6pm EST).

[Iecerint]

Fate, Kast can't be scum except a) with me (if I made up all the flavor and no blocks happened), b) as the SK (and scum roleblocked me N2 and him N3), or c) as scum (SK roleblocked me N2 and him N3). Same thing I just told Ooba.

[ooba]

Iece,
- I wouldn't have taken on Fitz in the 1vs1 yesterday if SK. Plus throwing myself out there for the Kdub-LLD gambit for two watch\track actions is not a risk I would have taken as a SK.
- The scum theory is kinda of a stretch because why the entire reversal when I could have got ABR lynched. (Only universe where this makes sense is the one where Fitz was a traitor who me-ABR knew nothing about, I linked ABR-fitz and got Fitz lynched - even then would have probably pushed for a ABR lynch today and hoped I could make it till the end)

I am not entirely sure on clearing Kast based on the sleep=roleblocked part. Also, w.r.t taking Fitz traitor literally, "obstructor" was a "roleblocker", "curious explorer" = "Track\Watch" so there is a literal connection to names in some cases.

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Fate - your night action doesn't make sense - as simple as that. It's not just a "poor night action choice". It's one with zero benefit - no situation in which it could have yielded useful results.

Regarding my questioning ABR, the unvote didn't make sense. Nothing there to really change his read, IMO.

Out of the two RB'd players - kast is scum. In fact, initially thought of voting Kast but then decided that the risk was high if I was wrong.

And I voted you because I'm running out of mislynches?
- If you really think Kast-me are scum together
-- I could have easily pushed a lynch on ABR today given that Fitz flipped scum and that theory about fakeclaim swapping looks good
-- Or Sathoris
without having to vote you. (Also as a Kast scumbuddy, I'd want to delay your flip because a town-you would strongly imply a scum-Kast because of the dual busdriver claim.) Plus the "lol he's voting a townread" is nice but I don't feel the need to stick to my old reads\theories as new info comes along.

You're not even trying to scumhunt. Looks more like a last throw of the dice? Thanks for making me feel better about the vote.

[Fate]

I got you ooba <3

[Iecerint]

1. I didn't perceive that you 1v1'd fitz particularly...you did some reasonable flavorspec and went on with it.

2. What Kdub-LLD "gambit" are you referring to? You mean what you proposed at the end of D1? I suppose that's a good point.

3. The other examples you give aren't literal, though -- "obstructor" isn't a role and "explorer" isn't a role. "Traitor" IS a role, and I think it has a connection to fitz's abilities, but I don't think it means he was literally a traitor who couldn't communicate with the other scum. I think the simplest explanation is that my ability, the only pure investigative one in the game (meaning, not track/watch-based), didn't work on him because he was a "traitor" to the town and we didn't see him as scum. This also fits with the other rolenames being slightly-different-but-it-fits versions of the standard roles they embody.

4. Well, what part of Kast-town makes you nervous? Do you think that scum roleblocked themselves last night? Town didn't do it, or they would've claimed already.

5. I think it would be EXTREMELY bastardly if my ability was basically worse-than-useless when I targeted BOTH fitz-scum (where it implied he was Town Tinkerbell) *and* hypo-Kast-scum (where it said he was princess-y and LRRH), especially when the 90% from my role PM implies ~1 person it doesn't work normally on.

6. Who'd Sath claim again?

[Fate]

VOTE: Ooba

[Kdub]

The more time goes by without more day kills, the more I think that there is no SK. It makes no sense from a hypothetical day-SK standpoint to not kill as often as possible.

- Two roleblock claims? (Kast, Kdub) - At least one is scum.

I'm thinking I might not have been roleblocked and the scum are instead redirecting me onto themselves. If they have both a block and a redirect, that seems to make the most sense.

[Fate]

Come back and flail for me ooba.

Lurkin till I'm mislynched and shut up won't help.

Dead men with bold posts in caps tell tales.

You can't run from your Fate

[Fate]

Hey Kdub

I just realized this

(Didn't think of it earlier cuz I'm not scum)

If you are town, and Kast is town:

I could redirect you onto Kast get a double kill and an extra night and have ended it last night.

So, you know you're town, ergo Kast is confscum from your view.

Damn I'm good. You guys would bow down if you know how little effort I put into this game and yet howq great my reads and arguments are.

Bow

Down.

[Iecerint]

That makes...no sense at all...again...

[Iecerint]

THOUGH

If Kdub is town and his ability is being redirected as he speculates, the kill may be factional or otherwise immune to doubling...

And Fate's ignorance of that is a little promising, I guess.

But we're operating in lots of ifs.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Iecerint

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Fate

Ooba is town, Fate/Iecerint scum team

[Albert B. Rampage]

HAMMAH OF THA GODS

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and the Beautiful 2 //

The Irony of Fate

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She never had a chance. And neither did she deserve one. Not

another

.

They had heard enough of her rantings and ravings and inexcusably poor judgement. She'd been wrong repeatedly, each time more obviously than the last, and each time she had some insane excuse as to why she was right even though she was wrong, or that she could not possibly have believed anything else, even with numerous points of evidence to the contrary. In fact, for hours at a time she would keep up a running monologue, speaking in the third person about herself, making less than no sense, until finally everyone decided that there was no possible way she could have everyone's best interests at heart. And even if she wasn't patently evil (which they deduced she was), she was in no fit mental state to be entrusted with any kind of decision making.

-Crash!-

went the hammer down upon her head, swung by someone with an equally firm point of view, but who also had class and a greatly increased level of ... well, levelheadedness. This needed to be done, and the sooner the better. This fiery-spirited group of brave and beautiful fairy tale females could not afford to have dross like this polluting their presence, and most definitely would not suffer the worthless to live.

As she bled out, but few glances were cast in her direction; at worst malicious, and at best merely impassive.

Fate - Little Miss Muffett - Arachnophobe

has been eliminated.

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Night 4 has fallen.
Deadline is Wednesday, July 20th at 2pm PST (4pm EST).

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and the Beautiful 2 //

Hells Belles

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On the way to the castle, a blazin' hot chick was riding her horse Philippe. Suddenly, there were ravenous wolves and stuff. The wolves started chasing her horse, and she was scared. Philippe reared up on his hind legs, and she fell to the ground, and the wolves encircled her. But then, somebody on another horse (with a sword) came down the pathway just in time and killed two of the wolves before the others ran away. Then, he realized that she was not only a hapless traveler, but also a really smoking hot chick. And so he took her and... had his way with her. After that was over, he realized that she'd seen his face, so he couldn't leave her alive, because that'd be stupid, obv. So he chopped her head off and stuff. So first he was a knight in shining armor, and then after that, he was a jerk and he raped and killed her. Sucks to be her.

Kdub - Belle - Loving Enhancer

has been eliminated with extreme prejudice.

And at the dawn of the fifth day, only five remained.

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Day 5 has dawned.
Deadline is Saturday, August 6th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

Spoiler:

There was flavor before. Lots of it. And it was very tasty, and you all would have enjoyed it immensely. But now there is no flavor. Unfortunately, even "good" browsers (Safari) on "good" computers (Apples) crash sometimes (read: a lot, and it's really annoying). And now I don't have the time to re-type ten or twelve paragraphs of awesomeness. So all you get is the flip, and I apologize. Perhaps I'll fill this in later. Damn you, Apple.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever.

[Iecerint]

I suppose Kast should claim first.

[Kast]

I suppose Kast should claim first.

I AM actually Little Red Riding Hood, I AM actually a Beloved Princess, and I DO have odd-night bus-drive (sort of). However, I'm actually also a modified-JoAT, modified-survivor. I'm a part of the townie and win with town, but only if I survive until the end. I lose if mafia win (even if I was alive and endgamed).

I've got several items in my basket that help me survive (and which made me suspect Fate was scum since his claim semi-overlapped mine).
A) Bus-Drive
A) Re-Direct
B) Commute
B) Hide
Each ability is 1-shot, however the A abilities cannot be used on consecutive nights, and the B abilities cannot be used on consecutive nights (essentially I have to alternate between A and B).

N1 I did actually use a Bus-Drive on myself and Kdub.
N2 I attempted to commute but apparently the mass RB stopped my commuting, so I kept it.
N3 I got RBed so my attempted re-direct Fate to himself failed (I'm assuming I still have it).
N4 I commuted.

I'm pretty sure ABR is a RB + Flavor-Message mafia.
Either Sathoris OR Ooba is the remaining mafia.
If there is an SK, then I'd guess it's Sathoris since I wouldn't think an SK would have a mass RB, and that would leave Ooba as the remaining mafia.

Iec can't be mafia or he would have lied about his investigation yesterday and had me lynched.

The flavor about the wolf that I mentioned earlier is that I'm traumatized by the experience of being attacked by the wolf, and since then I've taken extreme care to keep myself safe/ready to survive anything. The flavor on my JoAT limits is that each type of ability takes time to get ready, so I can't use the similar types consecutively.

I think we need to hit lynch mafia today, VOTE: ABR seems like the safest/guaranteed play.