ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lost Butterfly]

Mostly for his reaction to Benmage's fake guilty, I thought he looked like some form of info role then, so him claiming one makes me sort of reassured I guess.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

If he's recruited the Crone into the fold, then he could've legitimately believed benmage was mafia at the time.

Empking, what are your current reads?

[Lost Butterfly]

Benmage was pushing me as mafia, though, and claimed as such.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

And that's problematic how?

[Empking]

CES:
Cult Recruitor: Benmage
Cult: Thor & Magua
Mafia: Nexus (depends on who claims the seventh PR though) Two of: Bogre, Hindu & You.

[Lost Butterfly]

And that's problematic how?

I don't really see why that would make Empking think Benmage is mafia.

It'd make more sense if Empking was mafia who thought Benmage was cult gambiting, don't you think?

[Lost Butterfly]

Like, maybe i'm not being clear but it would seem counter intuitive for Emp cult to see benmage as mafia in that situation when he was pushing

me

as being mafia.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yet Empking didn't want benmage vigged. Empking thinking benmage cult is a recent development.

[Lost Butterfly]

Huh, you're right. I didn't remember it going down like that at all, he even goes as far as to say he's definite scum but not cult in one post.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh, he calls him cult recruiter

after

the kill.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Empking, talk to me about Maguacult.

[SpyreX]

Tell me what I'm missing here:

If Emp is cult AND faked those watches town OR a scum should sacrifice to out it - Emp, if cult, is a CR.
If Emp is scum I don't get why you wouldn't throw SOMEONE to the wolves. Why shoot 4 useless results?
If Emp is town then everything is as it sits and means LB wasn't converted which is good.

[ooba]

Vote Count

Empking (2)

- Benmage, Cogito Ergo Sum

Benmage (2)

- Empking, Magua

Nexus (1)

- Thor665

Not Voting (6)

- Bogre, Lost Butterfly, Nexus, SpyreX, Hinduragi, Espeonage

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch!

[Empking]

Huh, you're right. I didn't remember it going down like that at all, he even goes as far as to say he's definite scum but not cult in one post.

When?

CES: I can't talk with such a general thing. By Day 4, Magua was in a position where all the energy put on him was dead and had been fizzled. That coupled with his competence makes him an ideal night 4 recruit especially now we know AGM was a recruit.

Edit: Just saw the VC. Magua probably isn't cult then.

[Benmage]

unvote Empking Vote Bogre

[Benmage]

Bah

Mod

Bogre hasn't posted in 8 days

unvote vote Hindu

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

^not even trying

Spyre, Emp is my main suspect for CR and the lack of confirmability of his claim is perfectly compatible with that scenario.

CES: I can't talk with such a general thing. By Day 4, Magua was in a position where all the energy put on him was dead and had been fizzled. That coupled with his competence makes him an ideal night 4 recruit especially now we know AGM was a recruit.

So what you're saying is "I had him as cult before, so I just plunked him there on the list without thinking." There's a lot of support for the notion that cult started off with a non-CR. Wouldn't Magua make most sense as that role in your worldview?

[Nexus]

v/la from tomorrow until Sunday

Sorry, unavoidable. I might be able to check on my phone, but otherwise I'm completely

sans

internet.

[Thor665]

@CES - so you're saying Emp isn't a Watcher?

What was his CR strategy regarding Benmage's fake guilty the other day then?

[Empking]

^not even trying

Spyre, Emp is my main suspect for CR and the lack of confirmability of his claim is perfectly compatible with that scenario.

CES: I can't talk with such a general thing. By Day 4, Magua was in a position where all the energy put on him was dead and had been fizzled. That coupled with his competence makes him an ideal night 4 recruit especially now we know AGM was a recruit.

So what you're saying is "I had him as cult before, so I just plunked him there on the list without thinking."

TBH, yeah.

There's a lot of support for the notion that cult started off with a non-CR. Wouldn't Magua make most sense as that role in your worldview?

Magua is not cult with the CR Benmage. So...no.

CES: How do you explain my quick change of thought wrt BM's claim other than my remembering (and checking) my N1 target?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That was why? That does make me reconsider.

Unvote

God, I'm starting to buy the benmage-as-really-reckless-CR as this point.

[ooba]

Bogre has been prodded.

[SpyreX]

It might be ego BUT I still dont think I had the wool thrown over my eyes that hard on Ben. However, I also suck at finding cult.

There's no world where ben doesn't flip cult one way or another though.

[Lost Butterfly]

There's something not adding up here, as I'm running out of possible cult recruiters fairly rapidly.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I know.