NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[kanyeknowsbest]

i think a sapo lynch isn't bad, but i would still much rather a chair lynch. i think our accusations have solid ground and i think it would tell us a lot more than a sapo lynch would. also v/la is no reason to hold off on a wagon when we have this much back and forth established already.

[Chair]

i think it would tell us a lot more than a sapo lynch would.

Why?

[Yosarian2]

I'm still not feeling this Sapo lynch. She needs to post more, but she's more likely town at this point.

Sorry Ether, I just can't buy the "voting for scum is a scum tell" theory here. At worst, it's null.

[Yosarian2]

If we're really not going to lynch MrZepher for whatever reason, I could compromise on a chair lynch. I first want someone to explain first how Zepher could plausably be town, based on his behavior, though.

[Îdher]

...

Why on earth would you think she's actually

town

?

-Ether

[Chair]

Hey mastin, I just actually decided to look at the post where you voted us. For some reason I never actually really looked at it.

{SpyreX, Knight of Cydonia, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, saporovirus}
Sapo's one of the scum. Since all three of KoC, Kayne, and Yos2 are on the wagon, that means that SpyreX is more likely town, which makes Chair looking far more likely scum.

What wagon is this referring to? The Empking lynchwagon?

Empking (8):

SpyreX

, Knight of Cydonia, T-Bone, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, Oversoul, Hiraki, saporovirus

UT wagon?

Untrod Tripod (9): Chair, mastin2, T-Bone, Ethos, Hiraki, Knight of Cydonia, MrZepher, Yosarian2, kunkstar7

lack of kanye

Apart from this, you don't really seem to have any reason that you fos us over SpyreX, yet we're one of your bigger scumreads. In fact, you partially derived your scumread on us from a scumread on saporovirus, yet we're a bigger scumread than she is. Why?

[SpyreX]

Sapo's wagon zips up the charts and chair doesn't get lynched after literally voting the sapo wagon in the same post as saying I'm a bigger scum read than KKB (note: this isn't referencing Sapo).

Yea, I'm smelling stink all over this. ALL over it.

[Chair]

note: i explained why i moved our vote (kanye wagon stalling, no one voting you, idher's reasoning makes sense). To criticize me for not mentioning it in a specific line of my post, especially considering that that line began with "by the way" implying it was unrelated to my vote is reaching.

If you had, idk, said "Chair is sheeping Îdher" and criticized me for that, then sure, that'd be a justifiable attack. But attacking me for what you attacked me for is not. It's plain reaching.

-implosion

[SpyreX]

kanye wagon stalled.

Unvote, vote: saporovirus

Pretty much sheeping idher since no one is wagoning spyrex or kanye. She's convinced me

to a fair extent

of saporoscum.

By the way: SpyreX has gradually become a stronger scumread than kanye.

-implosion

Yes this is stellar right here and I'm attacking it for "all the wrong reasons" compared to "all the right reasons".

Well done.

[Magister Ludi]

I don't think i'll be following onto this wagon right now. My top scum read moves onto saporo, who was a lesser scum read and who hasn't really posted much since I replaced in, and the wagon swells to five (seemingly out of nowhere?). Hold on here.

[Îdher]

Mm hmmmmmmm.

-Ether

[Magister Ludi]

Something got lost in the translation dear.

[Îdher]

No, I got it just fine.

-Ether

[Magister Ludi]

nonono, from your end to mine.

[Îdher]

I am insinuating that you are her scumbuddy and your previously-stated suspicion of her was a bluff which you never had any intentions to act upon.

-Ether

[Magister Ludi]

So you think it would be a town move to hammer the player who has posted once since I replaced in and last posted on monday with one vote on her, despite the fact I have espressed much greater suspicion on MrZepher and the saporo wagon exploded to L-1 in a day or so?

These aggressive mind games you play are too much for me.

[Oversoul]

So you think it would be a town move to hammer the player who has posted once since I replaced in and last posted on monday with one vote on her, despite the fact I have espressed much greater suspicion on MrZepher and the saporo wagon exploded to L-1 in a day or so?

These aggressive mind games you play are too much for me.

Lurkiness is somewhat of a scumtell in that they avoid actually scumhunting and forging things.

[kanyeknowsbest]

note: i explained why i moved our vote (kanye wagon stalling, no one voting you, idher's reasoning makes sense). To criticize me for not mentioning it in a specific line of my post, especially considering that that line began with "by the way" implying it was unrelated to my vote is reaching.

If you had, idk, said "Chair is sheeping Îdher" and criticized me for that, then sure, that'd be a justifiable attack. But attacking me for what you attacked me for is not. It's plain reaching.

-implosion

i love it every single time chair dismisses and sidesteps valid points and claims "youre not allowed to do that or use that reasoning."

GUYS I REALLY WANT TO LYNCH CHAIR

[Magister Ludi]

Actually, we probably need a prod of saporo, shes posted in a grip of other threads since here.

[kanyeknowsbest]

Reck sent prods this afternoon.

[Îdher]

Pretty much. I mean, you'd probably want to give her a chance to claim first, but she has had ample time to defend herself and behave in a townish manner and shit.

Really, your supposed case on Zephyr was pretty scummy in the first place. It was the sort of nitpicky PBP that you could make on anybody, and it's obvious that you decided to attack him first and then started looking for reasons to justify it. Outside of the Swag bit, those reasons were all

terrible

. I say all of this with the caveat that I don't have any strong independent reasons to believe that Zephyr is town, although he probably is based on the dependent stuff.

-Ether

[Magister Ludi]

No, it wasn't. There was nothing about it that was more likely to come from scum than town. In fact, the reasons were pretty clear, I think you just disagree with them (why?)

I believe zepher is scum, for the reasons I present. You can't have it both way, if I hadn't given you clear reasons, you probably would think I was scum for voting based on 'gut'.

Seriously, go reread him, and tell me where you get any sort of town feeling or good posting.

[Îdher]

The reasons were perfectly clear, and also terrible bland shit that you could throw in some form or another at absolutely anyone in this game. If you were voting Zephyr on gut, then I would still find you scummy--I suspected your predecessor, too, and of course it would still be obvious that your Sapo suspicion was always a bluff--but I would not count it as a further nail on your coffin in and of itself. Your case certainly is. Let's review:

Doesn't start off too badly--Swag's vote really was quite terrible. It all goes downhill from here.
Telling Empking, who would never be able to vig anybody anyway, to vig one of two town players (from Ludi's perspective. Zephyr's explained that he meant Kanye and not Cydonia. I think Kanye is actually much more townish than Ludi, but that's not the point).
Yup. Suspecting townies again, how dare he. When was the last time a townsperson

did

that?
Laziness, on something that seriously doesn't matter all that much. Answering questions that the askers don't deem important enough to repeat is not that important in the scheme of things. In contrast, Sapo is so lazy she hasn't even

posted

--and you're using that as a point in her favor.
Asking the town not to finish the day before he got a long post in that he was making. Uh.
Changing his mind.

Seriously, go reread him, and tell me where you get any sort of town feeling or good posting.

I say all of this with the caveat that I don't have any strong independent reasons to believe that Zephyr is town, although he probably is based on the dependent stuff.

Please pay attention, Magister Ludi. I have at no point called Zephyr townish based on his own play. I am

chainsawing

.

[SpyreX]

This wagon is junk and oozes of bookied.

So if this is how the song sings today bullets you damn well know where to go.

[Îdher]

Oh my. You're dropping the bookie card on

this

? You must

really

need that woman alive.

-Ether