NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[mastin2]

*yawns*

This game's boring once you figure out the scumteam. It kinda robs all of the fun out of the game when you know you're right. I skipped pretty much all of Ludi's BS wall, since Ludi's scum and there's no point in really reading it.

[Magister Ludi]

(shrug) Everyone skips your

nonsense

posts anyways.

[mastin2]

Why do you think I tend not to bother making them, anymore?

(I really do hate building walls.)

[Chair]

kanye wagon stalled.

Unvote, vote: saporovirus

Pretty much sheeping idher since no one is wagoning spyrex or kanye. She's convinced me to a fair extent of saporoscum.

By the way: SpyreX has gradually become a stronger scumread than kanye.

-implosion

[Chair]

(I really do hate building walls.)

You have no idea how much this makes me want to punch you in the face.

-implosion

[MrZepher]

Why do you think I tend not to bother making them, anymore?

(I really do hate building walls.)

You just trolled anyone you've ever played in a game with ever.
I lol'd

//obvious fluff

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Saporvirus

I don't have a wall or anything really, but I just feel like Sapo is scum.

My reads so far have been...

Town:
Idher
Mastin2
Yosarian2

Null-leaning town:
Kanyeknowsbest

Null:
Kunkstar7

Null-leaning scum:
Chair
MrZepher
Magister Ludi

Scum:
Sapovirus

Reasoning, gut mostly. I didn't like her post where she called Ethos's arguments strecthed and then the Empking buddying doesn't sit well with me after Empking's flip.

Also, she said Ythan was obvtown and then makes a standalone post saying she will look at Ythan again. Clearly one is ungenuine, but I can't tell which one.

Plus, she hasn't really tried to scumhunt this game. She made a few posts, but they were far and few between the one liners.

[Oversoul]

Seems I forgot Spyrex in that list. Initially I had him and Ythan as a possible scum buddy team due to their friendliness and tag teaming on the Ethos wagon, but Ythan's reaction towards me and a couple of other people made him more town. I put Spyrex as Null-leaning town.

[MrZepher]

1. Spyrex isn't on your list... >.>

2. I don't find Sapo's being willing to relook at Ythan scummy in and of itself. People have a right to change opinions, or be willing to double check if something seems off.

PREDIT'd.

[Oversoul]

1. Spyrex isn't on your list... >.>

2. I don't find Sapo's being willing to relook at Ythan scummy in and of itself. People have a right to change opinions, or be willing to double check if something seems off.

PREDIT'd.

Then she was throwing towniness around as if it was water with the obv town remark. I wouldn't care if she had said I think Ythan is town and then reevaluated, but she clearly did not put thought into Ythan or his slot when she put the obvtown and then said she needed to rethink it. That is my main gripe with that set of posts.

[mastin2]

Spoiler: rambling

As I explained elsewhere, it's not necessarily that I hate building walls. It's that I really hate the consequences building walls have. "Wallcaholic" is an accurate description.

Building walls consumes a lot of time and tires me out, so it sucks--but it also gives an incredible high, a feeling of intense pleasure to pour so much into something and watch the energy flow from it.

Then, the consequences of the walling hit me, and I realize that I unintentionally killed the game with constant walling.

Not a fun feeling, that.

So, the most accurate way to describe it?

Love walling (the feeling of enjoyment far outweighs the feeling of "this sucks"), hate the consequences.

[Îdher]

She's at -1. (Kunkstar, me, Zephyr, Chair, Oversoul.) I am cool with this.

-Ether

[mastin2]

Me, less so.

[mastin2]

(Lynching your third scumread, your tertiary suspect, is far inferior to lynching your primary or secondary suspect. I think Sapo's scum, sure--but I'm less sure of it than my other two scumreads, especially with one of them supporting the lynch. If any of my reads are to be wrong, Sapo's the one most likely to be it.

That's not a good lynch to me. Not yet, anyway.)

[xRECKONERx]

Chair (3): SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, mastin2
kanyeknowsbest (1): saporovirus
MrZepher (2): Yosarian2, Magister Ludi
saporovirus (5): kunkstar7, Îdher, MrZepher, Chair, Oversoul

Not voting:

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.
MrZepher is V/LA until July 17th.
Chair is V/LA for two weeks (I will replace the slot at my discretion).
Prodding kunkstar7, Yosarian2, saporovirus, and kanyeknowsbest.
Deadline is in (expired on 2011-07-19 23:00:00).

[mastin2]

(Oh, and Ludi weakly supports the wagon, too.)

[Îdher]

Keeping my view of Chair in mind, I think you've got this one backwards. I hope Sapo's flip--and the thing all five of her current voters have in common--will give us a proper view of the Empwagon.

-Ether

[kunkstar7]

(Lynching your third scumread, your tertiary suspect, is far inferior to lynching your primary or secondary suspect. I think Sapo's scum, sure--but I'm less sure of it than my other two scumreads, especially with one of them supporting the lynch. If any of my reads are to be wrong, Sapo's the one most likely to be it.

That's not a good lynch to me. Not yet, anyway.)

While it is inferior for yourself, it doesn't help if there isn't a wagon on the alternatives (mostly directed at the Ludi suspicion from you, Chair could happen). With Chair V/LA, I see that wagon stalling due to responses, so hammering sapo is optimal in this case. Plus if you agree sapo is scum why stall on the lynch just because you have other scum suspects?

[mastin2]

What's your pick for the scumteam again, Ether? I remember only a Sapo suspicion off the top of my head.

What are your thoughts on--for example--Ludi?

[mastin2]

With Chair V/LA, I see that wagon stalling due to responses

If people aren't voting Chair due to V/LA.

I.

Will.

Hunt.

Them.

Down.

In.

Real.

Life.

And.

STRANGLE THEM!

(You realize how much I hate seeing a wagon fall apart because the player's V/LA, right? What would you think if Sapo were to go V/LA for two weeks? "Oh, we'll wagon Sapo when Sapo gets back."? HECK NO.)

[mastin2]

Also,

If any of my reads are to be wrong, Sapo's the one most likely to be it.

^That is why I'm not hammering. Both my other scumspects have Sapo suspicion, for instance. It could be weak bussing, but the wagon is unnerving me.

Like I said. I definitely want Sapo dead due to the significant chance of being scum, preferably well before lylo--it's just, I don't want Sapo dead now; I want to lynch Chair and Ludi first and work out from there whether Sapo's scum or not.

[Îdher]

SpyreX still idiotic and/or scum,

[...]

, Ludi still putting off bussing Sapo.

Sapo/SpyreX/Ludi are my top three, although I think it's possible there

are

only two full scum (and a traitor) left at this point. I am aware of Ludi's statements on the other two.

For what it's worth, the Sapowagon hasn't suffered from her lurking--she hasn't even

posted

since I voted her and started pressuring the rest of the town into a wagon. I don't think Chair's V/LA is a valid reason to unvote him, but I don't think it's a very good wagon in the first place, so yeah.

[mastin2]

Should announce it here, as well. It won't be a problem (since I have internet access--just really slow, at a really unfortunate time, with access to my game-notes being extremely inconvenient), but

V/LA from 7/16 'til 7/22

.

[Chair]

It's likely that either I'm going to have time to post about as much as I already am, or that I'm completely wrong and won't have access/time at all, which is why I said to replace us if we inexplicably stop posting.

I hope Sapo's flip--and the thing all five of her current voters have in common--will give us a proper view of the Empwagon.

Oversoul was actually on Empking's lynch wagon, but he's town anyway.

[Îdher]

Shit. Thank you.

-Ether