TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[hiplop]

why do you need to know the heads? meta sucks anyhow.

[Nero Cain]

Sorry Nero but your /confirm - JUMP ON WAGGON doesn't sit well.

Its was more like confirm-read thread for an hour-vote for who I thought was scummy.

Not wanting to headclaim is about as anti-town as it gets.

I disagree with this. Yes I think it fairly obstinate to refuse a head claim but I've been in 2 games where the hydra was asked to claim and both refused. In one game the hydra flipped scum; in the other they flipped town. So I see ZeL's refusal null.

I would say Jily's replacing out is to get heat off her slot but the fact that she's replacing ou in other games tells me its sincere.

unvote

vote: Vifam

He's being extremely hypocritical here and I'm not exactly happy that he chooses to play marathon games instead of post here.

[ThreeIsFrench]

oh the irony.

nero why would you assume that? not a good thing to assume.

VOTE: vifan

[Nero Cain]

assume what?

[Nero Cain]

Chevre is doing it to.

[ThreeIsFrench]

I would say Jily's replacing out is to get heat off her slot

[Nero Cain]

I've seen it done in the past just like I've seen people (who later flipped scum) posting in other games/threads while ignoring another game.

[Pvt Slate]

@ Vifam Wagon people

I've read through VF's posts and am getting a town vibe. Mind you all Vifam is a newb too, let's hold off on this wagon. I'm going to start looking at weak reasons people have for voting vifam and see and scum vibes out of them. I'll post again later on tonight when i have more time.

[ThreeIsFrench]

nah lets not hold off on this wagon, shes scum.

[PeregrineV]

Unvote.
Vote:chkballin

I'm suspicious of DavidX also, so you can buy my vote with your promised wall about his scumminess.

[Pinky and the Brain]

oh the irony.

nero why would you assume that? not a good thing to assume.

VOTE: vifan

TIF:

a) You were already voting Vifam. Who did you think you were voting?
b) (Ignoring the fact that you were already voting Vifam,) what prompted you to vote Vifam here?

The sudden (relatively speaking) wagon on Vifam has me doubting my vote for him.

This suggests you feel scum is on the Vifam wagon.

Any idea who?

I've read through VF's posts and am getting a town vibe.

Did you read through anybody else's posts detailing why Vifam is scum? Would you kindly explain why we're all apparently wrong?

Unvote.
Vote:chkballin

I'm suspicious of DavidX also, so you can buy my vote with your promised wall about his scumminess.

You're voting chkballin because... they voted for somebody who you are suspicious of? Because they promised a wall?

Try reading Magna's response to your last post again: it's equally aplicable here.

Ok, so no comment on ANYTHING else going on in the game?

~ Hoppster

[Leonshade]

I don't like Vifam trying to deflect the suspicion on him onto someone else, but I'm going to keep my vote on the Jilynne slot for now. Vifam has enough votes on him at the moment, and I want to keep a close eye on whoever will replace Jil.

[MagnaofIllusion]

UNVOTE: Vifam

The wagon has grown sufficiently large that pressure on Vifam is fairly strong. I’ll be returning my vote to him if his response to my latest round of questions isn’t satisfactory

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Actually, you're doing a slamdunk job ATM. Vifam might be scum, but the response sounds like it would be from town also. But, that's probably because I'm soft-hearted.

1. Just because I am active and doing a ‘slamdunk’ job doesn’t mean you should be happy to just let me do all the work.
2. Fence-sitting on Vifam noted.

@Peregrine

– Please clarify … were you intending to counter-claim Zinger’s Earl name-claim? I didn’t think so when I read it but Zinger indicated he thinks you might be.

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Please provide links to both. I have only ever seen this happen once, from lynched scum, but it's an ongoing game so I cant fully disclose it until the game is over.

I’ll go digging when I have time to go through the many threads that I read and get back to you on this eventually. I’m not going to lie, it isn’t going to be a high priority for me. The one example that I concretely know about is also an on-going game …

@Pappums

– Aside from me and Chevre can you give us a few more reads to work with?

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ZeL1nk is clearly holding grudges across from a previous game. He really shouldn't do that, and it is definitely not helpful to the town if he carries on with that behavior.

That’s a pretty ridiculous premise … if anyone has reason to hold a grudge from Superhero Mafia it is me not Zel1nk who directly benefitted from your play.

[PeregrineV]

@Pinky & the Brain- Yes.

Actually, you're doing a slamdunk job ATM. Vifam might be scum, but the response sounds like it would be from town also. But, that's probably because I'm soft-hearted.

1. Just because I am active and doing a ‘slamdunk’ job doesn’t mean you should be happy to just let me do all the work.
2. Fence-sitting on Vifam noted.

1. You're not, we're all here. But still doing a great job.
2. Sure, if you mean the "is-he-scum?" or "isn't-he-scum?" fence.

@Peregrine

– Please clarify … were you intending to counter-claim Zinger’s Earl name-claim? I didn’t think so when I read it but Zinger indicated he thinks you might be.

No, not in any way. I just like how the name of the show is in itself a statement/nameclaim.

Thoughts on DavidX? And on Leonshade's last post?

[killerjester]

You can stay in character, but I'd likes your thoughts on..well anything that's happened so far.

Fair enough.

ZeL1nk is clearly holding grudges across from a previous game. He really shouldn't do that, and it is definitely not helpful to the town if he carries on with that behavior.

I think Vifam has some explaining to do. He looks like he is trying to find excuses to point fingers, which is what scum do. He said he didn't like my reaction to 'being shot', well I want to know why he didn't like it, and what would be a more acceptable reaction. Should I have approved of ZeL1nk's decision to try to shoot me tonight?

Peregrine might have been counter-claiming me (I am not 100% sure, his post is vague), but if he was indeed attempting to counter-claim me, it is a lie and he is scum.

Everything else is a null-tell, but I will be targeting ZeLink tonight.

That is enough from me for now.

Thanks I don't think Peregrine was trying to CC you.
UNVOTE:

I don't like Vifam trying to deflect the suspicion on him onto someone else, but I'm going to keep my vote on the Jilynne slot for now. Vifam has enough votes on him at the moment, and I want to keep a close eye on whoever will replace Jil.

Attempt to distance yourself from the bandwagon, noted.

VOTE: Leonshade

[killerjester]

EBWOP: Peregrine just ninja'd me... twice I think? D:

[Leonshade]

I don't like Vifam trying to deflect the suspicion on him onto someone else, but I'm going to keep my vote on the Jilynne slot for now. Vifam has enough votes on him at the moment, and I want to keep a close eye on whoever will replace Jil.

Attempt to distance yourself from the bandwagon, noted.

VOTE: Leonshade

I'm not trying to distance myself from the bandwagon, I just want to stay on another one for now.

[killerjester]

Is that your only comment? Vifam joined the Jil wagon early on, what are your feelings on this? And why do you think Jil is scummier than Vifam?

[izakthegoomba]

Ok, I'm up to date.

I think massclaiming this early is a TERRIBLE idea. What possible advantage could it give us?

And jilynne/future replacement is scummy, for reasons which include meta I can't mention. Ongoing games.

But Vifam really sticks out like a sore thumb here, and is still a few votes off of lynching, so

VOTE: Vifam

[jasonT1981]

Day 1 Vote count 2

Vifam 9 - Marco, 3isFrench,Vezo, Pinky,ZeL1nk, DavidX, THAdmiral, Nero, Izak (Lynch - 5)
Jilynne 2- Vifam, Leonshade
Leonshade 1 - KillerJester
Andrew 1 - Silver
DavidX 1 - CHKBallin
ThAdmiral 1 - Chevre
Silver 1 - Andrew
Pine 1 - Oversoul
Chevre 1 - Pappum
Silverdrummer 1 - Slate
PeregrineV 1 - Zinger
CHKBallin 1 - PeregrineV

With 27 alive it takes 14 to lynch with a deadline of 12th August 12pm EST

[ThAdmiral]

...and so we wait to hear from vifam...

[David Xanatos]

Just a heads up, as of a couple hours from now, until Monday, I'll be V/LA.

Mod note:confirmed.

[Rodion]

Vote: Vifam

L-4

[Rodion]

Vote: Vifam

L-4

Vote: Vifam

[izakthegoomba]

S/he last posted 27 hours ago. We probably won't be waiting too long.

I do wish people would use the VOTE: tags.