Open 314: CSL Express [SCUM WINS]

[glowball]

You also haven't looked, obviously.

k

[Tragedy]

Yay! Crypto's replacing TheLonging!

[crypto]

Time to light a fire under the ass of this game.

[Tragedy]

Also, Happy B-Day, Crypto.

[crypto]

Thanks. I am an old man now.

[Vifam]

Why did you let him join?


Jesus Christ.

[Vifam]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I'M LEGITIMATELY MAD ABOUT THIS.


New content later.

;0; Be happy, it's an Open Game with a replacement

[crypto]

Are you town, Vifam?

[Vifam]

Are you town, Vifam?

Yes.

[crypto]

Great, let's rape face.

[Vifam]

Great, let's rape face.

Who do you think is scum Crypto?

[crypto]

Read the first two pages. Oversoul is scum. I'll read (most of) the rest and post more after dinner.

Vote: Oversoul.

[Tragedy]

Votecount 2.3

crypto[0] -
Glowball [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [1] - Coventry
Oversoul [1] - crypto

Hiraki [2] - Glowball, andrew94 (L-3)

don_johnson [1] - Vifam
andrew94 [0] -

Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik, Hiraki (L-3)

Coventry [1] - don_johnson

Not Voting

: Oversoul

Required 5 to Lynch, 4 to No Lynch.

[don_johnson]

Hi crypto, any reasons on oversoul?

[drmyshottyizsik]

So they don't out them selves, and who says scum is on the wagon?

?

@Glowball

[Hiraki]

Oh.

[andrew94]

i councur don_johnsons question. however i also find that hes question is scum sliding in and sliding out. even though i asked the same question.

a bigger post later after my tests

[Coventry]

Tragedy,

don_johnson's vote, I believe, is actually on Vifam. I mention this because I would hate to be surprised with a sudden Vifam lynch.

Shotty,

I certainly believe there are bad guys on the Vifam wagon. Would you care to make your case against Vifam again? I mean again for the first time. Since to this point the totality of your case against Vifam is contained in the following two quotes:

Wow!

Vote Vifam

Should have went with this in the first place.

Because Neil nor Hiraki are scum.

Actually, would anyone who is currently pursuing Vifam care to...ummm...make a case? One that doesn't require the rewriting of history and includes actions taken or not taken by Vifam himself? Or, if you are determined to vote Vifam to see if don_johnson or someone else on the train is scum or not, an explanatin of why it wouldn't make more sense to vote for the person you do have evidence against first?

After having asked for this five or six times now without getting an answer I don't really expect one this time, but it makes me feel better if I keep asking and maybe it reminds some folks that to this point no case has really been made.

[Hiraki]

Actually, would anyone who is currently pursuing Vifam care to...ummm...make a case?

FFS.

Have you even peeked into my ISO? You think everyone on the Vifam wagon is blindlessly sheeping?

[Vifam]

Actually, would anyone who is currently pursuing Vifam care to...ummm...make a case?

FFS.

Have you even peeked into my ISO? You think everyone on the Vifam wagon is blindlessly sheeping?

What exactly in your ISO proves I'm scum? I'm not seeing a thing.


I'll make a wall in a second.

[crypto]

Okay, I've read/skimmed the thread.

Unvote.

I'll post more later after I mull over my reads.

I will say that Hiraki needs to be taken down several notches. I'm thinking strapping him to a table and chopping his legs off.

[Tragedy]

Oops. Fixed.

Votecount 2.4

crypto[0] -
Glowball [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [1] - Coventry
Oversoul [0] -
Hiraki [2] - Glowball, andrew94 (L-3)
don_johnson [1] - Vifam
andrew94 [0] -

Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik, don_johnson, Hiraki (L-2)

Coventry [0] -

Not Voting

: Oversoul

Required 5 to Lynch, 4 to No Lynch.

[Hiraki]

nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.

What would you like to discuss?


Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.

Right off the bat. This already looks a bit slippy, but in a

very

minor way. The best point here though is that Neil getting an avatar would not increase the chances of town winning a game at all. It just made things convenient when Neil was alive.

Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.

How so?

It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.

Remembering reads doesn't lead toward a town win, getting scum leads to a town win. These are all minor so far, but the big points will be up ahead.

I'm just done with this shit.

It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.

... I don't see it. An attempt to look pro-town maybe? Or perhaps an attempt to prolong this phase of not really doing anything. Either way, seems pretty scummy. For now:

Unvote
Vote: Vifam

That's terrible reason to vote someone


I've always found that avis help me remember reads a lot easier, not an effort to look town, just my personal experience.

So let's recap. Why is this vote terrible? Because avis help people remember reads.

Again, we lead to the same conclusive point that Vifam brings up. Avatars don't help the town win. They help reads stay organized via memory due to avatars.

So, was this vote really that bad?

No.

how about this ridiculous math?

vote: vifam

go go vifam bandwagon.

Why would you put me at L-2 so early? We're only four pages in.


VOTE: don_johnson

L-2 isn't really a horrible spot to be in.

L-1? I can agree. L-2? Not really. Vifam gets paranoid from here on out before people start defending him(stupidly).

Because Don-john was the one who wanted discussion to happen, a lot faster, and that totally contradicts that with him putting me at L-2. He could be trying to apply pressure but I feel like a player who really seemed like he wanted to discuss things wouldn't act so rashly, unless he was scum.

Did he bring discussion due to the forward of his vote on you to L-2? Did he get pressure on you by voting L-2?

Yes. So, I would believe that Don_John is still being townie.

There is no real reason to put someone at L-2 in the first place unless it's to pressure them into claiming or searching for reactions. And Don didn't seem to have any interest in that before the BW on me started.

Assuming.

makes an ass out of u and me.

#104 is the only post that shows that Vifam does actually have a valid point. However, again, Vifam is still assuming.

So now you may ask, what's so bad about Vifam's play thusfar?

Well. Assuming isn't a scumtell per se, but the reason that he/she is actively participating in the game, but decides to care about an L-2 vote, while ignoring the rest of the votes is already a bit odd. I mean, Vifam doesn't even call out any votes against her excluding Sigma's vote.

That's a bad reaction.

He didn't seem like he was really going for that, IMO. It seems like she thought I was legitimate scum.

Back with assuming after you've already stated multiple times that Don_John was going for serious discussion. Do you believe that Don_John just decided to be an idiot?

#146 is fine because Neil was scummy.

However, n.b.

Yeah, Hiraki hasn't done anything scummy, back up shotty.

Don_John can you get anymore scummier?

Lawlful. You haven't stated one real scumtell on Don_John, just some assumptions you've made on his actions.

But his "Hey let's lynch Vifam to prove Don-John is scum" is painfully flawed. Especially when you think about how close I was to being lynched D1, how he managed to edge out ALL of the BW that were on me to don_john, is very shady.

Here, Vifam basically says that his/her lynch is bad because it had a large BW.

lol

Also Coventry didn't slip that's ridiculous. She's town, even if she has the same style of play of politeness and well spaced out paragraphs, she's still way too straight forward to be mafia. Her effort to extract answers are completely genuine.

There is absolutely 0% of content here that would lead to Coventry town rather than Coventry scum. Coventry scum can be polite and write well spaced out paragraphs.

I really doubt you two actually think that was a slip.

What is it with these assumptions?

Look, this is post 329 in the game. The only scum tell that Vifam has been able to provide on anyone in the game is on Neil, and that's because he was blatantly scummy. Other than that, Vifam finds small scumtells that don't really mean anything in the end and null tells. That's it. Top it off that his/her play is scummy, and you got yourself a nice package.

#375 is where Vifam starts to get logical.

However, Vifam gets logical in a sense that it would be logical if she didn't assume. Again, we come back to the original Vifam who complains that there's no real reasoning against her own lynch, but can't provide a decent scumtell on me either.

Therefore, D_J, her other scumread, apparently is scum with me because we distance all the time.

It can't be anyone else that she's mentioned and forgot about.

Like Shotty.

Then, from theory land, we travel to hypocrisy to the max.

Also, Hiraki's became so passive aggressive against me it hurts. :X

While in the next post,

You realize you've been kicking him the balls since D2, right?

Instigation.

Says the guy who has been pairing me and DJ this whole time.

Instigation.

Again with the ignoring of my posts.

How the fuck is anyone supposed to respond to those posts? They're obviously posts that you don't respond to and you just look at them.

But then it gets juicier.

A SWITCH!!!!!

How about we all lynch Don_John

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Don_Johnson

And what may cause this turn of events?

Hiraki [3] -

Vifam

, Glowball, andrew94 (L-2)
don_johnson [1] - Hiraki
Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik,

don_johnson

(L-3)

Over-reacting scum is over-reacting.

Seriously guys, explain to me how Hiraki is NOT obviously bussing?

lol

Your turn.

[crypto]

Okay, Hiraki. We get it. You're town. You don't have to post anymore if you don't want to.

[Hiraki]

NO.

I'M REQUIRING THIS LYNCH.