The Brave and the Beautiful 2: Fairy Tales ÔÇô Game Over

[Amrun]

Yeah, well, fuck you guys, too. Massclaim my ass.

Fate, are you scum?

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and Beautiful Vote Count

2.5

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Lady Lambdadelta [4] – Kast, Amrun, ooba, Iecerint

Iecerint [2]

– Lady Lambdadelta, havingfitz

Amrun [1]

– Albert B. Rampage

bv310 [1]

– Fate

Not Voting

– bv310, Kdub

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With 10 players alive, it is 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is July 14 at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

[Fate]

Unvote:
Vote: Amrun

This hurts me more than it hurts you.

[Iecerint]

Why are you voting Amrun?

I Salthusis saying he doesn't want to put her at L-1 until D3 or until real-life tomorrow?

[Kdub]

Her claimed role never really make any sense. It's too simple for RC's standards; compare it to the Tracker hybrid role from the original B&B game (mine!) where Zelda could transform into Sheik to perform doctor or tracker roles....

This is a decent point that I hadn't considered. Maybe massclaim would clear things up. Hmm...what's everyone else thinking here? People have been flipping back and forth on massclaiming.

You think town has more than two roleblockers?

Who said anything about two town roleblockers? You said that me and LLD were not roleblocked by scum. How does Robo's flip plus your claim prove that?

So in summary...you think I'm suspect because you think I killed Spyrex to push a case on Iece despite the fact I haven't done this.

You didn't say it directly, but you did clearly disagree with Iec being suspicious of me and SpyreX (this was just before SpyreX was killed), then you say afterwards that you were going to look into SpyreX's opinions to get reads. Guess who he suspected and who you threw a vote down on in the same post?

Why is Kdub confirmed town again? Or is he?

I am not. Since you didn't comment on it, what is your opinion of my claimed action and LLD saying she never got anything?

LLD not getting any result is just too convenient. Even after oomba's ability made sure the double PR gift reached her. Also not getting a notification of a double PR seems very odd. Likely scum can't benefit from the double PR gift.

This actually reminded me of something. I already mentioned that my role PM says nothing about affecting town or scum differently, so I had been assuming that it affected both. However, I remembered that RC made a comment in the aftermath of Blackest Night about how he would have done things differently, here. The relevant quote:

Roles like Enhancer, Enabler, Doctor, etc., would not only work on town, but would work on scum as well. This would help out the non-Black scum quite a bit more. (But I'd probably make them only work on the PR abilities like Block/Frame/etc., i.e., no doubling of NKs.)

If he took his own advice, my power should work on scum PRs, but not the factional kill.

That still doesn't explain why she got no notification though.

[Fate]

I'm still fine with a MC

Ooba apparently isn't for LOLSECRETS

[ooba]

I'm still fine with a MC

Ooba apparently isn't for LOLSECRETS

Trust me on this - I definitely prefer a MC tomorrow .. Unless someone has something relevant to claim to the LLD situation, I think we should not claim anything further today ..

[ooba]

I Salthusis saying he doesn't want to put her at L-1 until D3 or until real-life tomorrow?

RL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote; Vote:Amrun

[ReaperCharlie]

Gonna be V/LA until Tuesday. I'd prefer no lynching until after I get back.

Noted.

[Amrun]

When did I say kdub and lld weren't roleblocked by scum? I said they weren't roleblocked EXCEPT if by scum - hence asking ooba the likelihood of that being in the set up.

I don't have the time or energy to fight this and I don't understand why I am even being attacked. I have a feelinng it is scum motivated; Fate is now giving me gut worries. I'll do more analysis when I have time and/or attention span, both of which are in short supply.

Can someone summarize the case against me in bullet points?

[Iecerint]

I dunno it either. I asked them for it yesterday, but they wouldn't tell me.

[Kdub]

When did I say kdub and lld weren't roleblocked by scum? I said they weren't roleblocked EXCEPT if by scum - hence asking ooba the likelihood of that being in the set up.

My bad, I misread your post.

[Amrun]

So why is your vote still on me, kdub?

[Kdub]

I'm not voting for you.

[Sathoris]

Can someone summarize the case against me in bullet points?

I echo this sentiment.

[ooba]

I focused mainly on LLD and will look into the rest more tomorrow when I've had some rest.

I was actually waiting for you to come back on this. Otherwise, I think we should move ahead with the LLD lynch ..

[Sathoris]

Yes right, got distracted.

Amrun:

A little heavy on the meta analysis of LLD's play. But I actually like that here, it's not used ambiguously but games have been posted to determine a meta from. The emphasis is on LLD's reaction and how she'd react as town or scum. I like her conclusion and her early town play.

She mentiones Kdub as her only other suspect and after it was made clear LLD should have a chance to prove herself overnight she switches to Kdub with reasons instead of just vote switching. Does the same when Kdub has an ability that could potentially be proven and switches to her next suspect. Scum could easily just fade away.

My first real niggle comes after that. Here she finds LLD town or that the PR was faked. I doubt scum would have a 2shot tracker/watcher, but ok I can see that. Proclaiming the kunk wagon is a go and then switching back to LLD after Fate made one post which seems contrived or fake. Town Fate with this info would've said this after LLD first claimed. Although this makes up for a lot imo.

I can't find anything else that really sticks out as scummy. She was against massclaiming first. After claiming goldilocks I can see why. Not many roles other than thief would fit that character. Plus she mentiones LLD and Kdub not being roleblocked by town prior to her claim.

Amrun is perhaps my biggest town read so far. Don't understand the votes on her at all. Also LLD is voting for her..

VOTE: LLD

More to come later.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If it takes my death for town to stop playing Pants on Head, that's fine.

[havingfitz]

Iece...was the wing question going anywhere?

[Amrun]

Iece...was the wing question going anywhere?

This.

[Iecerint]

All I needed was a yes/no to that question. I may have a similar question for someone else tomorrow if I receive more flavor.

Am surprised that no one else got anything, but maybe being tight-lipped is a good idea.

[ooba]

Kdub, hammer please ...

[Fate]

If ANYONE is going to hammer LLD its going to be me damnt!

Unvote…
Vote: LLD

INB4TOWNFLIP

[Kdub]

I still don't see the scum motivation behind LLD's behavior today. Guess we'll find out for sure whenever RC gets back.