Princess Bride Mafia - Game Over

[mlaker]

I mean Westley could be a cop but he's also searching for 1 group.Not random villiany.And he's also the dread pirate roberts.He could also steal items or something or be a role blocker,it just seems like there couldn't be that many cops or none.

mlaker

[Werebear]

mlaker - if you're creating a mafia game, you can twist any role into what you want. If you're doing a Princess Bride mafia and want a cop, you find someone close, like Inigo, and tell them they're looking for Rugen and his cronies, etc. or you tell Westley that Humperdinck (a good name, almost as good as the evil Fouckaire from "The Corsican Brothers") and his crew are looking for Buttercup to make her wed Humperdinck, etc.

[massive]

Roles Left:

Westley
Inigo Montoya
Fezzik
Vizzini
Prince Humperdinck
Count Tyrone Rugen
The Albino
Yellin
King Lotharon
Queen Bella
The Impressive Clergyman (or Archdean)
The Ancient Booer
ROUS ('s)

There HAS to be at least one ROUS ("died of a festering leg wound" couldn't be anything else), but could there be two, as a secondary mini-mafia group?

Plus we have three confirmed generic townies in our troupe. That's 16, which is what we have left. I see my role on that list. If that list is right, how many Mafia are we dealing with? I know Humperdinck, Rugen, and the ROUS (I'm assuming one, seems ideal for a SK role) are all evil, but I'm not familiar with the lesser roles. How realistic is it, too, to have the King and Queen and the other minor roles? We have generic townies, so that would say to me that there might also be generic Mafia (Werebear alluded to Rugen and 'his cronies') ... I think I'm talking in circles.

[Sugar]

Unvote: mole

I'm now completely convinced of both his and Someone's innocence. And Someone, please stop using up all the clues now, in case we need them
Werebear, you're right. Westley and Inigo would make sense as cops, although I'd initially pegged Inigo's role as a vigilante.

Vote: Leonidas

, where'd he go?

[Dragon Phoenix]

Alright, I'll mention my role name. Maybe someone else can make more sense of it, and that should outweigh any possible advantage of scum claiming my role name at a later stage (which is not that likely anyway).

I am Grandpa

. Because I know the book by heart, I know every single character through and through. I get to check on one every night and will learn whether they are for or against the town.

On face value, I should be a regular cop. The only twist I can think of is that MeMe has decided that I am getting senile, which could make me a paranoid, insane or even random cop.

I also think it is better to disclose the second player whom I found to be against the town. Worse case I reveal an innocent, best case I reveal scum before I die. I will decide on that later in this 'day'.

[JereIC]

IIRC, Inigo winds up in the townperson camp, hammered out of goard. He meets up with the giant, swears off alcohol, and becomes useful again. I bet you that Inigso is useless right now (insane? paranoid? ineffective?) but something needs to happen in the game for him to gain real powers.

As for DP, I'm thinking you should reveal who you targetted. We're still not sure what kind of cop you are, and we may be able to get some info from your target. Granpa seems like a really interesting role in this game, and opens the possibility of the grandson and mom too (for what it's worth).

[Leonidas]

Where did I go ? Right here - the discussion is extremely interesting.

I see four possibilities.

1 - DP is an investigator, but insane.
Case a - DP is GranPa, but is indeed senile.
Case b - DP has a cop-type role, but is really a mafia spy - Vezzini, for instance. Vezzini would be insane. He thought he had found himself a member of the other family, and could gain glory and credibility by exposing him. But he was insane... so he comes up with this grandpa claim, a claim for a role outside of the story which allows him to also plead senility.

2 - DP is an investigator, but paranoid.
Case a - DP is GranPa, but is paranoid. Well, - this seems highly unlikely. I don't believe Grandpa would be a useless character.
Case b - See hypothesis 1 above. DP is Vezzini; in the movie, Vezzini thinks himself clever only to find out that he's wrong - but too late. He could be paranoid. Again, Vezzini could be a mafia spy, trying to gain credibility -etc (see 1 b ).

3 - DP is a sane cop.
I've tried to convince you yesterday.
If you still have a doubt: The Clergyman CAN'T be mafia.
-> just watch the movie.
-> There are more than enough roles to create a full family with the prince, the count, the albino, guards, etc. When you take into account the size of the game, it just becomes unfeasible.

4 - It's a Lepton.
DP is scum, misleading the Town and trying to get innocents lynched.
He could even have GodFatherhood. Either he had planned a Lepton day 1.
Or something triggered his claim.

[Leonidas]

As to the grandpa claim more specifically:
I wonder if we should expect other roles from outside the Tale ?
Could we have, say, Miracle Max protecting the mother at night ?
Or the child being tortured by Rugen ?

[massive]

On face value, I should be a regular cop.

DP's last revelation has put me over the top. Having been the victim of DP's LAST Lepton gambit (in "Still Alive?" mini), I'm now getting exactly the same feeling I had there. And I don't believe the people outside the story are in the game.

vote DP

[MeMe]

Vote Count:

mlaker

(1):

mole

Leonidas

(1):

Sugar

Dragon Phoenix

(1):

massive

Not voting (13):

All the rest

Nine votes will end the day.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Massive, in that mini I was being bandwagoned. Here I was not. No need to go out on a limb and claim to be cop if I were not.

[mlaker]

Really that would be strange if the Grandpa was killed by a person in the game.

Vote:Dragon Phoenix

mlaker

[Dragon Phoenix]

Hehe - I agree, that argument actually makes sense. Well, if you all follow this lead, we can collectively blaim our mod.

[mathcam]

I don't think its that far-fetched to believe that Grandpa could be in the game. He's a character in the movie, even if not one in the game. So what if it would be weird if Rugen killed grandpa? This is mafia. I think Dragon Phoenix is very possibly a non-regular cop, though, if he is one. Though if I would have guessed from the onset, he would have been naive. He doesn't seem like the paranoid type. My second guess would be insane, which makes me think that both Leonidas and whomever Dragon Phoenix investigated last night are both innocent. Thus, I don't think Dragon Phoenix should reveal.

I agree with Werebear that Inigo and Westley are both candidates for cop-like roles, and with mlaker that he's probably searching for a particular person. I'm conjecturing that Inigo and Fezzik are pro-town, Vizzin is an SK, and the prince's group is the predominant evil in this game.

Cam

[Sugar]

I think Grandpa makes more sense for a cop role than anybody. He was anything but senile in the movie, and nothing would make me think he'd be either paranoid or naive. DP's either come up with a very impressive role-claim, or he's an amazing mafia catcher. I'm going with the latter.

One of my abilities is to obtain a divine intervention once in the game.

That's used up, now...

I would prefer not to reveal the other one(s), if any.

I'm a little worried about the other one.

[jadesmar]

And, wasn't he played by Columbo himself?

[mlaker]

I think if there were any roles in the game that could be cops and like Werebear said MeMe could have twisted the roles a little bit I don't think it would be Grandpa,also I think the boy and I forget thge mom but at least the kid thought him a litlle senile.I just don't see a way that Granpa could be a cop.For another reason the Grandpa was reading the story,what did they do jump out of the pages and stab him?Just seems strange those are the reasons fo my vote.

mlaker

[rite]

Going to Norfolk from now until Sunday Night/Monday.

Don't lynch me!

[Werebear]

I hate to throw another monkey wrench into this, but the Grandpa *WAS* in the movie (and book, right?) This is not "the story of Westley and Buttercup's True Love", this is that story, of course, but the MAIN story in the movie was about a boy and his grandfather. Their relationship change from beginning to end was what the movie was all about.

*shrug* my 2 cents. I think DP's claim could be real, but I also know if HE'S in here, the BOY'S in here.

[mlaker]

I always considered Grandpa the narrator.

mlaker

[Dourgrim]

I'm back.

There is no reason whatsoever to believe Grandpa couldn't be in this game... after all, the game is themed on the

movie

"The Princess Bride", in which Grandpa is certainly a main character (you hear him throughout the movie). And having Grandpa be something of a cop-type role makes sense to me... but I'm not entirely sure. No vote right now.

[jadesmar]

Well, I definitely see the grandfather in a cop type roll. In fact, I can see him now, in a long trenchcoat, asking.. "just one more question".

Perhaps I should turn off A&E.

[mikehart]

I agree with Werebear on this. The game is based on the movie and Grandpa was a critical character. So i believe DP.

[mlaker]

I've heard enough to take my vote off of DP

unvote Dragon Phoenix

But will

FOS DP

mlaker

[CRiX]

/me is here! O.o


Ok.. Grandpa, as many people said, is believable to me. Move != book.

Anyway, he seems pretty sane in the movie, though old people can be tricky. However, I would think that he could at least keep this one book straight in his mind, since he seemed to like it so much.

Anyway, I believe DP.. yay for believing..

(I don't think I have a vote on anyone..

unvote whoever

if I do.)