Open 316 - Hard Boiled (Day Two)

Amrun · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:38 pm

Uh, I was against the idea of a basic massclaim. Once Hoopla explained it, that changed things drastically for a lot of people, including swank, so why dnt you mention it for him?

It's just a weird inconsistency.

I am glad zmuffin is a PR(pending counterclaims). It calms my gut worries over him. This is helpful in PoE. Oversoul was always town, though.

glowball · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:08 pm

DarkFlashlight wrote:Claim: Not PR

Let's get rolling, I can't honestly see how order would matter at all. In the end, if there's a CC, there's a CC. Scum will have to deal with the circumstance either way.

Glowball, I know you said you wanted to claim last, and I won't argue with that, but try to check back frequently so we don't have to wait for you to claim last when you could've right now.

At what point since my V/LA have you had to wait for me? I am here all the time and we've only got 6 claims...when I screw up bash me for it, until then calm down.

@evilpacman...just because Hoopla came up with the idea, doesnt make her obvtown--the plan can be manipulated and to call obvtown so soon after you've replaced in worries me....

Anyways...so that's 7 claims???

evilpacman18 · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:09 pm

glowball wrote:
DarkFlashlight wrote:Claim: Not PR

Let's get rolling, I can't honestly see how order would matter at all. In the end, if there's a CC, there's a CC. Scum will have to deal with the circumstance either way.

Glowball, I know you said you wanted to claim last, and I won't argue with that, but try to check back frequently so we don't have to wait for you to claim last when you could've right now.

At what point since my V/LA have you had to wait for me? I am here all the time and we've only got 6 claims...when I screw up bash me for it, until then calm down.

@evilpacman...just because Hoopla came up with the idea, doesnt make her obvtown--the plan can be manipulated and to call obvtown so soon after you've replaced in worries me....

Anyways...so that's 7 claims???

This would be one hell of a scum gambit.

glowball · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:10 pm

evilpacman18 wrote:
glowball wrote:
DarkFlashlight wrote:Claim: Not PR

Let's get rolling, I can't honestly see how order would matter at all. In the end, if there's a CC, there's a CC. Scum will have to deal with the circumstance either way.

Glowball, I know you said you wanted to claim last, and I won't argue with that, but try to check back frequently so we don't have to wait for you to claim last when you could've right now.

At what point since my V/LA have you had to wait for me? I am here all the time and we've only got 6 claims...when I screw up bash me for it, until then calm down.

@evilpacman...just because Hoopla came up with the idea, doesnt make her obvtown--the plan can be manipulated and to call obvtown so soon after you've replaced in worries me....

Anyways...so that's 7 claims???

This would be one hell of a scum gambit.

It's not a gambit if you never really risk anything-- if she's figured out how to manipulate the numbers then it's a done deal

evilpacman18 · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:22 pm

glowball wrote:
evilpacman18 wrote:
glowball wrote:
DarkFlashlight wrote:Claim: Not PR

Let's get rolling, I can't honestly see how order would matter at all. In the end, if there's a CC, there's a CC. Scum will have to deal with the circumstance either way.

Glowball, I know you said you wanted to claim last, and I won't argue with that, but try to check back frequently so we don't have to wait for you to claim last when you could've right now.

At what point since my V/LA have you had to wait for me? I am here all the time and we've only got 6 claims...when I screw up bash me for it, until then calm down.

@evilpacman...just because Hoopla came up with the idea, doesnt make her obvtown--the plan can be manipulated and to call obvtown so soon after you've replaced in worries me....

Anyways...so that's 7 claims???

This would be one hell of a scum gambit.

It's not a gambit if you never really risk anything-- if she's figured out how to manipulate the numbers then it's a done deal

Maybe, but if she can find holes in the plan, why can't we?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:25 pm

Oh, there are glaringly obvious holes in the original plan, that have been slightly accounted for with innovations from a few players.

glowball · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:27 pm

evilpacman18 wrote:
glowball wrote:
evilpacman18 wrote:
glowball wrote:
DarkFlashlight wrote:Claim: Not PR

Let's get rolling, I can't honestly see how order would matter at all. In the end, if there's a CC, there's a CC. Scum will have to deal with the circumstance either way.

Glowball, I know you said you wanted to claim last, and I won't argue with that, but try to check back frequently so we don't have to wait for you to claim last when you could've right now.

At what point since my V/LA have you had to wait for me? I am here all the time and we've only got 6 claims...when I screw up bash me for it, until then calm down.

@evilpacman...just because Hoopla came up with the idea, doesnt make her obvtown--the plan can be manipulated and to call obvtown so soon after you've replaced in worries me....

Anyways...so that's 7 claims???

This would be one hell of a scum gambit.

It's not a gambit if you never really risk anything-- if she's figured out how to manipulate the numbers then it's a done deal

Maybe, but if she can find holes in the plan, why can't we?

I have...I just refuse to help scum win the game, but if you take the time to play out all possible scenarios then you might find some too.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:30 pm

I guess it's remotely possible that scum Hoopla's plan backfired on her. But I won't be voting her any time soon.

glow, I'm not saying the plan is perfect and maybe I would have been more against it had I been given a real choice, but it makes it VERY difficult for scum to win. The odds are better than a traditional game, which is the whole point of the plan.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:32 pm

If you decide not to go along with it, I won't participate in a vote to lynch you. You totally seem genuine.

glowball · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:39 pm

evilpacman18 wrote:
I guess it's remotely possible that scum Hoopla's plan backfired on her
. But I won't be voting her any time soon.

glow, I'm not saying the plan is perfect and maybe I would have been more against it had I been given a real choice, but it makes it VERY difficult for scum to win. The odds are better than a traditional game, which is the whole point of the plan.

I don't think anything's backfired on her- we haven't done anything yet except go along with her plan and she may be town but I have some serious doubts. All I am saying is that the plan isn't 100% and nothing is, but I say that this plan doesn't increase our odds in fact it puts all of our eggs in one basket that basically depends on the Vig. It is a systematic plan to weed out scum, so people flock to it because it seems easier to have a plan each day- but being predictable means scum can be 2 steps ahead. Systematic =/= Better Odds.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:42 pm

I like your resolve.

Amrun · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:16 pm

But in this case, it actually does drastically increase odds.

Quilford · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:58 pm

Not PR.

Here's the claims so far, latest to earliest in each list:

Not PR

Quilford
evilpacman18
neil1113
Hoopla
DarkFlashlight
Amrun

PR

zMuffinMan
Oversoul

Amrun · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:01 pm

Waiting on: glowball, andrew, littlegrey, swankidelic

Quilford · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:04 pm

Andrew was on like 45 minutes ago but didn't post here; is LittleGrey within prod range?

glowball · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:45 pm

Andrew was online like over an hour ago
Swank was on about 5 hours ago
Little Grey was on about 8 hours ago

Andrew and Swank have been online since we agreed to start claiming and Little Grey hasn't posted in like 4 days....

I don't have a good feeling about Andrew...

@MOD-- Did you/Could you make a count down for the deadline? I have no idea what GMT is...

andrew94 · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 pm

i did my modding thing then had to go.
nice try though.

NOT PR.

Quilford · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:17 pm

Here's the claims so far, latest to earliest in each list:

Not PR

andrew94
Quilford
evilpacman18
neil1113
Hoopla
DarkFlashlight
Amrun

PR

zMuffinMan
Oversoul

No Claim

glowball
LittleGrey
swankidelic

neil1113 · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:55 am

The waiting game... again... :/

zMuffinMan · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:55 am

It's pretty obvious glowball is the last pr, but whatever.

Secret Project · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:48 am

I just wanted to post in this thread on this account cuz it's weird being a hydra with someone then playing under them.

neil1113 · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:11 am

Secret Project wrote:I just wanted to post in this thread on this account cuz it's weird being a hydra with someone then playing under them.

Who are you, exactly?

glowball · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:20 am

zMuffinMan wrote:It's pretty obvious glowball is the last pr, but whatever.

What makes you say that?

evilpacman18 · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:24 am

neil1113 wrote:
Secret Project wrote:I just wanted to post in this thread on this account cuz it's weird being a hydra with someone then playing under them.

Who are you, exactly?

Are you blind or stupid?