Double-Dip Mafia, Game Over

[Empking]

Unvote: Ran

Vote: LK

[Ranmaru]

I fully support your imagine unvote.

Please find another place for it

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Why are you trying to stifle her scumhunting? You ask her to unvote you but don't ask her why she is voting you. Seems like you don't care about the accusation but do care that she is voting you, which is selfish.

[Ellibereth]

I get what Low's saying.
I don't get why Ran doesn't get it but whatever.
Scummeta found courtesy of google: http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Foru ... 4&t=403755
Some not lazy read it and stuff...I might later.

[Ranmaru]

I want to hear it from LK's mouth.

I'm reading it, thanks.

[[Low Key]]

Read through a few pages. I always have a difficult time distinguishing between bad town play and bad scum play. Like how he FoS'es somebody because he says "he's breadcrumbing". How is that a pro-town thing to do? And yet he's scum here and so how is that then a pro-scum thing to do? I just get really confused and want to curl up into a ball and go to sleep; for like 20 hours.

[[Low Key]]

I think everyone should start holding Ran accountable for making silly accusations with his silly questions which is him trying to appear pro-town and trying to appear as if he is scum hunting. I'm tired and going to sleep now.

[Ranmaru]

Why am I the better choice? I know that I am going to die today or tonight, so it doesn't matter. Anyways, I don't see how I am "the better choice". You think my posts are "overly attacking" or something?

Anyways, for when I do get lynched today, here is what I want town to do:

1) Lynch smallpeoples343. He posts too much fluff, votecounts, and activity checks.

Anyways, if someone posts a "propper attack" on me, I will post a propper defense.

It's been great modding this game, and I hope you all had a fun time playing and learning mafia. I'm sorry for kind of disappearing in the end.

Here's my analysis of the game as a mod: The mafia hid decently for most of the game, but lylo was just hilarious.

* theoneforce claimed cop at lylo. This isn't bad, but claiming a guilty on someone V/LA in the middle of the day sounds kinda dodgy if you ask me

* smallpeoples and theoneforce didn't disguise their partnership very well

o Repetition
o Partner defense
o Slips "Do you think we"...
o More repetition (First, second, 1. 2. OMG HIDE TAG, etc.)
* the way they hunted theamatuer was pretty mean.
* theamatuer's reasons weren't bogus as they claimed. They were pretty legit imo.
* they totally avoided EggyLv. (who would have been an easy lynch, even though he's an IC) and instead went for a cop fakeclaim.


I'm kind of disappointed in town too, mainly EggyLv. for letting the mafia lead the game. If he posted a bit more content, maybe theamatuer wouldn't have been (theone)forced into voting for marble-101. And also, I don't see what's wrong with a massclaim in lylo... sure it would be better if there was an order to it (more suspicious people claim first), but starting massclaims generally does not warrant a vote, especially in lylo.

I'm pretty happy with the replacements I got: -$45! played well and was pro-town for the short time he was alive. theamatuer made some mistakes (if someone's claiming a guilty on you, it's pretty obvious they're lying scum. don't rush to make a vote; plenty of time for other players to give opinions) but he played decently for a late-game replacement.

Roles/Actions in next post.

From these posts it seems Small's fluffs, polices activity, and doesn't hide connections well. This was from a week ago.

What do you guys think?

[Ranmaru]

@LK: I am not making silly accusations nor am I asking silly questions. All serious.

[Hiraki]

Ranmaru.

Smalls isn't fucking scum.

Get that out of your head.

However.

Why am I so offensive? You were one of the people who put me at L-1.

ISO TIEM. CONTROL + F. VOTE:

NO SMALLS. YOU BE LYING SON, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

[Amrun]

Guys, you are dumb.

Unvote: small ; Vote: Hiraki

Hiraki smells a little bit like scum defending a mislynch for towncred.

Also cog-dis is legit.

Small is town and Low Key's push for policy is more worthy of a PL than anything small has done.

Scumhunt and there won't be LyLo.

I'd vote Pom but then I'd have to unvote WLC, and he is scum.

[Hiraki]

Amrun.

Why can you never get a decent scumtell on me?

[Amrun]

BECAUSE. I think I have only read you icorrectly once, actually. We haven't played that much.

Not actually that confident on you here but I'd like a nice Hiraki wagon.

[Crazy]

Apologies for my laziness. Reading up on the thread right now.

[Pomegranate]

Ran and LK are distancing from one another. That means they're scum.

What makes it distancing rather than regular disagreeing and such?

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Also, UNVOTE: LK; VOTE: WLC. Scum.

[Empking]

Ran and LK are distancing from one another. That means they're scum.

What makes it distancing rather than regular disagreeing and such?

From Low Key side there is confirming his vote when in reality pushing for a Small lynch.

[Amrun]

Pom, explain your WLC vote.

[Pomegranate]

In reality there isn't much but a fuzzy scum signal that my brain seems to pick up whenever I read one of his posts, and I don't have someone better to vote atm. (I think I've been convinced that small is a noob.). But I hope to soon have a chance to glance through everyone's posts to possibly come up with a better vote.

[Hiraki]

BECAUSE. I think I have only read you icorrectly once, actually. We haven't played that much.

Not actually that confident on you here but I'd like a nice Hiraki wagon.

That's a lie.

Like I've said before, I don't have a town or scum meta. Stop trying to affiliate one with me.

[Amrun]

Pom, no, it's coo. I thought you might have been sheeping me. Wanted to see what you'd say. You can stay on WLC.

Hiraki, you can say you don't have a scum or town meta, but that isn't true. Everyone does. Also I wasn't bringing up any meta at all in this game.

We have two completed games together; one was our first (Naruto mafia) and we were convinced each other was scum and we were both wrong. The latter was a newbie that I replaced into where you were dead town.

We have two [redacted]s in which neither of us have flipped. So I am not sure what you are talking about but you should probably stop.

[[Low Key]]

Scumhunt and there won't be LyLo.

I do support this product and service.

[petroleumjelly]

Day One: Vote Count #11

5 Hiraki (Pomegranate, iamausername, smallpeoples343, [Low Key], Amrun)
3 smallpeoples343 (Crazy, Ellibereth, RedCoyote)
3 WeyounsLastClone (Amrun, Empking, Pomegranate)
2 Crazy (imaginality, Ellibereth)
2 kunkstar7 (WeyounsLastClone, Ranmaru)
1 [Low Key] (Empking)
1 Ameliaslay (Ranmaru)
1 Amrun (WeyounsLastClone)
1 Ellibereth (Ameliaslay)
1 Empking (iamausername)
1 iamausername (Hiraki)
1 imaginality (Hiraki)
1 Pomegranate (imaginality)
1 Ranmaru ([Low Key])
1 RedCoyote (smallpeoples343)

With

15

alive, it takes

8

to lynch. Deadline is July 15 at 4:00 PM PDT.

Not Voting – 1 – kunkstar7

[RedCoyote]

Is there any chance Smalls could be good enough to be faking this?? I would be willing to policy lynch but I already know THAT isn't happening with today's meta and everything so:

Faking what? His post? No, I doubt it. I mean, by no means does it necessarily mean he's scum or anything, but I think it's worth testing him over. I wouldn't necessarily call it a policy lynch though. I think if someone else had put that, I wouldn't have necessarily came down on them like I am with smalls.

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So? Its pretty obvious distancing from where I'm sitting.

Maybe. Don't let me forget about this idea, but I don't want to push it today.

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@Ran:

1) He claimed VT
2) He is a guaranteed LYLO risk whether scum or not
3) Even though I don't believe this, he MIGHT actually be scum

Nobody believes like this any more so its useless for me to try.

All good reasons to vote him, but are you still going to work on an alternative wagon?

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More people need to vote for Amrun.

No.

Why was this post necessary?

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Sheepin RC. Yup.

Oh, I don't believe that anymore. :3

Happy scumday.

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I think everyone should start holding Ran accountable for making silly accusations with his silly questions which is him trying to appear pro-town and trying to appear as if he is scum hunting. I'm tired and going to sleep now.

Stop this. One (or both) of you needs to step up and quit posting so much.

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Vote: kunkstar7

Some quick comments: Ranmaru and LK is probably town on town (although Empking's ideas have me scratching my chin). I have no problem with Hiraki earning some votes. WLC is a bad wagon. My first vote will most likely not be leaving smalls due in large part to his premature claim.

[[Low Key]]

Is there any chance Smalls could be good enough to be faking this?? I would be willing to policy lynch but I already know THAT isn't happening with today's meta and everything so:

Faking what? His post? No, I doubt it. I mean, by no means does it necessarily mean he's scum or anything, but I think it's worth testing him over. I wouldn't necessarily call it a policy lynch though. I think if someone else had put that, I wouldn't have necessarily came down on them like I am with smalls.

He pretty much straight-up admitted itt that he is too inexperienced to even know how to perform the scum tells I was accusing him of. He specifically stated that he didn't even know there was a separate game thread.

I find him impossible to read at this point.

I want to cry actually.

[RedCoyote]

LK, you need to just take a break from the thread for at least a solid 24 hours. Just don't even log in. If you must, log in to read it only. You're getting stressed out because of Ranmaru. No one will lynch you if you take a break from the game.

[smallpeoples343]

Is there any chance Smalls could be good enough to be faking this?? I would be willing to policy lynch but I already know THAT isn't happening with today's meta and everything so:

Faking what? His post? No, I doubt it. I mean, by no means does it necessarily mean he's scum or anything, but I think it's worth testing him over. I wouldn't necessarily call it a policy lynch though. I think if someone else had put that, I wouldn't have necessarily came down on them like I am with smalls.

He pretty much straight-up admitted itt that he is too inexperienced to even know how to perform the scum tells I was accusing him of. He specifically stated that he didn't even know there was a separate game thread.

I find him impossible to read at this point.

I want to cry actually.

I'm sorry for whatever I did to make you want to cry... I don't really understand what apparently just happened...

I didn't know there was a separate in-game thread, as this is my first MafiaScum game. In AoPS, we don't have queue's organized like that. We have a list, but not a whole topic where you separately sign-up for that game. You can see it (as you guys already found my first game)

I don't really know what to say at this point, but I think I agree with RC.

Thinking about it, I just realized what [Low Key] meant before. I'm a little confused now, as to my plan of action. For now,

Unvote: RC

Let me re-read the last page and see my accusations. Please feel free to re-ask any questions I may have missed.