TheLonging [0] -
yourfriendlynoggin [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [0] -
Oversoul [0] -
Hiraki [0] -
don_johnson [0] -
andrew94 [0] -
Coventry [0] -
Deadline is at July 3rd, 3 PM.
drmyshottyizsik wrote:Sigh... Ok Hiraki I will accept that but I was more wanting you to explain where you came up with that... bussing is a lot different that what people were saying you maybe doing. Sorry I got so caught up on that. Now let's do some scum hunting!
drmyshottyizsik wrote:GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Fine I'll be productive
unvote
vote Neil
Hiraki wrote:Unvote, Vote: Vifam
Don_John and Vifam are scumbuds.Hiraki wrote:Oversoul wrote:Vifam wrote:don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.
What would you like to discuss?
Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.
Wasting time discussing anything not pertinent to the game at hand is advantagous to the scum. It decreases the amount of scumhunting significantly.
FoS: Vifam
The avatar crap between Neil and Jakesh seems like scumbuddy talk trying to pass time without actually going anywhere.
There.don_johnson wrote:let's lynch vifam.
unvote, vote: vifam
Because he was inconsistent and he was being blatantly anti-town.Neil wrote:But if it’s no bother I would like you to explain a little more how you went from reading Neil as “bad town” to “pretty obv. he’s scum now.”
Coventry wrote:
Oversoul.
Oversoul, Oversoul, Oversoul. Jeepers, your post #186 in thread is bad. If I was judging just based on that post I would vote for you right now.
Your post #220 in thread is very nearly as bad. I mean these posts require no one to defend themselves and bring to light no new information. They take up space and serve to give the illusion that you’re contributing. You did take a little whack at Hiraki in your post #163 when he was voting for you but that was sort of a reflexive gesture.
In #186 while giving your “town” read for Don_johnson, Shotty, Hiraki and Neil (maybe only Hiraki and Neil in tandem) you do vaguely suggest that TheLonging has done two things you didn’t like, but you never go so far as to accuse him.
I like you so far today much better. Good on calling out the two quick Vifam votes. And you know, having looked at the totality of your posts I just don’t see scum because (and I don’t mean to be impolite here) there is no pattern I can discern in your posts. Usually when scum do what you did in #186 and #220 you can get a sense of what direction they would like town to go even as they avoid ever saying it.
So just one thing: You did call out TheLonging a little in #186, but you never actually accused him. What are your feelings on him now?
I didn't care about the others.Coventry wrote:I mean the argument could be made pretty convincingly that almost no one on the train did much in the way of scumhunting on day one. I suppose that isn't so unusual for day one, depending on the personalities. So was it just the volume of Neil's uselessness or did you just become so tired of his "butthurt" that you were anxious for him to leave the train regardless of his affiliation?
Because I assumed that he was going for everyone assuming or trying to think that he was bad town, rather than scum.Coventry wrote:I'm sorry to come back to this but you moved very quickly from seeming very certain Neil was bad town to very certain he was scum. And once you'd decided he was scum you seemed quite terminally focused on him throughout the rest of the day.
That is true.Coventry wrote:As certain as you now seem about Vifam and Don_Johnson, based on Don_Johnson jumping in to make the appearance of starting a last minute wagon on Vifam being evidence that they are in evil league together.
bwahahahahahahahaha.Don_Johnson wrote:I think hiraki should go Next.
That's your case?Don_Johnson wrote:This game needs scum to play fast and hard and thats exactly what hiraki has done.
Hiraki wrote:Once Vifam flips scum, Don_Johnson will flip scum too.
You make some good points that bad play doesn't equate to scum all the time, but that's the point of the game. Scum usually make bad play, and we're out to get them. If we aren't looking for bad play=scum, then what are we looking for?
When you went on about bussing had you just missed that Hiraki had declared Neil scum, voted him and was increasingly tunneling on him, or was there some other thought process at play?
Yes I missed that
What was it about Sigma's repeating Hiraki's answer that finally ended your quest so thoroughly that by the end of the post you wanted to "let's go scumhunting!"?
I realized I had missed it
Why the suddenly very high level of antagonism toward Neil immediately after this, in defense of Hiraki, even though you'd been picking at Hiraki the whole thread?
It's called pressure
Why, when you'd just told Hiraki that he was being over-dominating, condescending and intimidating did you vote the bandwagon he'd been pursuing so strongly immediately after Hiraki tells you he doesn't want to argue with you because he's sure Neil will flip scum. Were you so thoroughly dominated and intimidated that you felt the need to follow Hiraki's lead, even though you'd been barking at him throughout the day, even though you were putting Neil at L-1, even though you offered no additional reasoning of your own?
Because Hiraki, since he was being so dominate, seemed like that kind of guy who would bus his scum buddy, and bus him hard. So by voting for Neil, I was able to wait for a lynch and then see what happened. Right now Hiraki is confirmed town in my book.
Why are you voting Vifam along with Hiraki as soon as the sun rises on day two? And why was Vifam who you should have been voting for all along?
Because Neil nor Hiraki are scum.
Once again, if I have misjudged you I am sorry, and I will certainly consider your future behavior and your answers to the above questions, if you care to answer them, as we continue to move forward. But for now I am sorry, I really must...