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The Brave and Beautiful Vote Count1.11
Kdub [6] – kunkstar7, Amrun, ooba, Fate, Kast, Albert B. Rampage
Iecerint [2]– Lady Lambdadelta, havingfitz
havingfitz [1]– Kdub
kunkstar7 [1]– bv310
Not Voting– Iecerint, Robocopter87
With 12 players alive, it is 7 votes to lynch.
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Given the other content in his post where he voted for me, I think he definitely intended to vote for someone else; it all referred specifically to things another player had done and not to things I had done. Suppose this doesn't affect your "counter-to-LLD" point, though.
I agree that kunk is not particularly protown, though I've only played with kunkscum (SA2) and am mentally/perhaps inappropriately filing his behavior under "similar to always" so far.
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Okay. I have a few things to address. My unvote on LLD, then a flavor thing I saw, and then what my thoughts are on the current lynch candidates.
Reason I unvoted.
In the beginning of the game I found LLD scummy, blah blah blah, stuff went down, and I kept my vote. Then LLD claimed. With the claim the wagon basically disintegrated at the thought of possibly killing a town role. The thing is, from what I can tell, SpyreX was a powerrole.
The reason for my belief in him being a powerrole was the flavor of his death.
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She'd been minding her own business, caring for the Lost Boys with all the tenderness of a Real Mother, when a surreptitious figure had sneaked up and fired upon her with a cold ruthlessness, then disappeared without a trace.
Dearly they fought for their hard-won Mother's survival, but all they knew of medical procedure they had learned from her, and their poor little hands faltered at the task of staunching the flow of blood. With her last breaths, she thanked them gently for their efforts, calmly made known her deep love for each of them, and spoke with wistful tears of how she would miss them so. They begged her not to leave them, Lost and without a Mother. But in the end, her head lolled to her chest and with a last, longing look, her eyelids fluttered gracefully closed for the final time.
This.
The first thing I noticed was the description of the killer of Wendy, a surreptitious figure. Cold Ruthlessness. This leads me to believe that this is Flavor Confirmed Scum. No Town aligned role I can think of would be described like that.
Then, I saw the part saying,"but all they knew of medical procedure they had learned from her". Medical Procedure. Town flip. This has to be a powerrole.
So, Spyre's death kinda solidified my thoughts on a total PR based game along with LLD's claim.
So if everybody is a powerrole, I think that claiming a powerrole isn't exactly a free pass.
But then other wagons came up, and I finally got real with myself and just decided, the LLD lynch just ain't happening, yet.
Game mechanic fishing stuff aside. People are voting Iece, and they are voting Kdub.
@The Kdub lynch.
I personally don't see Kdub's as extremely scummy. I don't see them as Lynch worthy. But apparently everybody else does.it comes down to a deadline, I would be willing to hammer Kdub. But for now I am not going to.If
@ The Iece lynch
This is a wagon i could jump on. Iece's response to Fitz have been calling scum to me. Fitz's case on Iece is good. And I agree with it in its entirety. I approve a Iece lynch. But I am not going to place a vote yet due to the fact that I have my own suspicion.
I am suspicious of Amrun.
I decided to ISO Amrun just now and I am not suspicous anymore.
I felt there was a lack of content recently but I think its par for the course and that certain players (Cough cough bv310 cough) have done a lot less.
So there is my opinion of the happenings so far.
Any questions I will answer.Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.
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Robo - This is a BatB game. Everyone's a PR in some way.
Second, I got a decent readthrough of the game today, but the site ate my post and I don't have time/energy to rewrite the whole thing. I agree with the Kdub wagon, and a also highly suspicious of HavingFitz. I don't like his exchange with Kunkstar earlier in the day.
As for my non-existence, my work has apparently decided that I have to work midnight shifts 4 days a week, and I have an online course in Roman History that's been eating a lot of my time as well. I've had some rather unpleasant words with my boss this week, so the shifts should clear up and I can get back in to this game. Sorry if I annoyed anyone excessively.-
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Robocopter87 Jack of All Trades
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bv310 wrote:Robo - This is a BatB game. Everyone's a PR in some way.
Thats not confirmed, its implied.Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.
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So you like left your post in your browser to ISO me? Why didn't you just make a properly organized post? That came off as very awkward.
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Amrun:
You acknowledged a different mistake than the one I pointed out, but if you're conceding the point, whatever. I think your reasons for voting me are wrong and/or misguided for the reasons I pointed out earlier, but really, your vote is probably one of the better-motivated ones of the people on my wagon, which says a lot more more about the other voters than it does about you.
Kast:
You did mention some things early on that you didn't like about kunk, but there is nothing in your iso resembling a case or an attempt to question him, nor are you actively trying to convince anybody to vote him. It looks like you just skipped over your top suspect for the sake of jumping on the biggest wagon. This behavior might be reasonable if you had pushed a case strongly on him and it was clear nobody was agreeing, or if we were close to the deadline and there was time pressure to get a lynch together, but neither of those things is true.
bv:
So you think me and fitz could be scum together, or do you suspect us independently? What is your opinion of SpyreX's death and people's reactions to it?
So I have two people (Fate and ABR) voting me for unstated reasons, another (bv) saying he agrees with my wagon for unstated reasons, and two people (Kast and Amrun) voting me apparently by default because they don't see anything better. Yeah, OK.Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Mafia - 17-player large theme, currently needs (0) replacements-
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ABR actually made some good points about you, iirc.
You make a fair point about kast, though, Kdub.
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bv310 wrote:and a also highly suspicious of HavingFitz. I don't like his exchange with Kunkstar earlier in the day.
I think my only interaction with kunkstar is in my ISO 12 and 13; what about the exchange do you not like/find suspicious?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Kdub wrote:Laying low =/= not posting anything whatsoever. …. If I were scum, why would I lie about wanting to observe reactions?
I wasn't implying you shouldn't have posted anything. My point is that if you really want to observe reactions, you wouldn't hint at it in thread or tip people off because then their reactions won't be genuine.
Confirmation-bias might be working overtime here but the more chunk posts, the more sure I am of the Kdub-kunk pairing. I mean he seems to ignore all your posts even though you're his top suspect.
Kdub, time to claim ...bv wrote:I agree with the Kdub wagon, and a also highly suspicious of HavingFitz.-
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ooba wrote:Kdub, time to claim ...
bv hasn't expressly stated intent to hammer yet, but since nobody seems to be moving and Fate is calling for a quickhammer, I will claim.
I am Belle from Beauty and the Beast. I am a Loving Enhancer. At night, I can target someone and they will be able to perform any action they have twice. However, if they are killed that same night, I die as well. I can target someone with an active ability tonight so they can confirm my power, but obviously I would not reveal in advance who that is unless that person gets protected. Obviously it's a swingy ability, but it's provable, and hopefully everyone can see how such an ability can't possibly be a scum power for balance reasons.
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Fate, what is that?
Why did you suspect Kdub? Where have you posted any reason for suspecting him?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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When was RC's other "resolves same night" PR?-
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Unvote; Vote: kunkstar
Thoughts on having Kdub test his shit on LLD's? Wish I didn't suspect them both. Can't see any other plan that does not involve having at least one person claiming an active ability.-
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Went through the previous game to get an idea of RC's idea of balance (Amazing flavor btw)
Town:
- Bodyguard who kills attacker and also dies
- One-shot Sensor + Two-shot vote redirector
- Can change forms - each with different ability: Pardon+Protect (or) Voyeur+Track
- Beloved Princess
- one-shot Unstoppable Vig + one-shot Vig with 66% chance of hitting target (Plus an independent 33% chance of hitting somebody else)
- Two shot Grapple (Makes target untargetable and opens up QT. Also makes target a clone to all night actions) + Two-shot Hider with no restrictions
- Two-shot make someone lose their vote next day + Passive: Require +1 to lynch + Can teach passive to someone
- Investigate + One-shot Grave rob (gives you one-shot of dead person)
- Steal ability as one-shot from player and use it same night + Two-shot Neighbourizer
Scum
Common abilities:
- Mafia kill
- Could choose to be untargetable one night night (cannot use any other abilities that night)
Individual:
- Two-shot Rolecop + Janitor
- Day: Reduces lynch threshold of everyone to L-1 + Two shot: Make someone lose their vote next day
- Roleblocker plus Framer in same action [except that this person can choose to be untargetable only when making the kill]
Town has a lot of roles which can screw it over if used incorrectly
Scum has a roles which help scum (not good-to-claim\confirmable type town roles)
Kdub is town for that claim. Given the previous game, I'd say LL is also prob-town for that claim ..
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Amrun wrote:Unvote; Vote: kunkstar
Thoughts on having Kdub test his shit on LLD's? Wish I didn't suspect them both. Can't see any other plan that does not involve having at least one person claiming an active ability.
And the chance that two town roles may die with one shot? No I think the best plan is Kdub choosing his target on his own.
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Fate, what is that?
Why did you suspect Kdub? Where have you posted any reason for suspecting him?
I haven't.
But this will be cute if you go from calling me "DERP FATE PERMA TUNNEL" to thinking you can get me mislynched.
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Guys. I think LLD is town, or watcher/tracker is a faked role. I've decided.
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I suppose that does naturally follow from your analysis of the old game...
I can think of exactly 2 good reasons to massclaim. The reasons not to are "just" the normal ones.
It's worth noting that some of the scrutiny RC's modding received recently may mean that this game has a different kind of set-up.
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