Lemming Mafia - Mini 1196

[animorpherv1]

Yes, since I pick near the bottom, unless a sparklingly good case comes up, I'll vote the people in front of me until they pick.

Scumtastic right there.

unvote, vote PeregrineV

[Tazaro]

It's not scumtastic; it's a manifestation of his impatience. It is not really hard to see that. Seriously -_-

[animorpherv1]

It's not scumtastic; it's a manifestation of his impatience. It is not really hard to see that. Seriously -_-

No, it implies that he would hammer someone because they haven't picked yet.

[Tazaro]

Chuji asked him whether that kind of vote that Peregrine was doing is random. Peregrine said "Yes"--it's not about hammering; it's not serious. These are random votes, which he's doing because it's his way to deal with not having anything to do in his mind.

[Tazaro]

I know this because I get bored, too.

[Jedo the Jedi]

Well, this thread has exploded since its start.

Mod: If town lightning lynches before everyone has picked, do the remaining people still get to pick or are they just SOL?

I really see Peregrine's stuff as impatience as well, and extensive talk about game mechanics is always dull to me. The mod designed the game to eliminate exploitation, so why would we find a loophole?

[animorpherv1]

To me, it reads as a bad thing, so I'm just going to keep my vote here.

[Tazaro]

To me, it reads as a bad thing, so I'm just going to keep my vote here.

Gut?

[PokerFace]

hello PF here again

What we could do is have the second leading wagon (aka scummy enough to be a viable lynch the next day) to pick the 'crap role' the next day if they are alive. That doesn't mean we have to lynch them that day, but they are more likely to be lynched than other players.

But this is all a waste of time right now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PeregrineV

We should be scumhunting right now and not just waiting until everyone picks a role. 48hrs x 11 players (12th doesn't get to pick) means this stage can last to a maximum of 3 weeks. This won't happen, but waiting until everyone picks is a bad idea, and a way for scum to actively lurk (moreso following days).

battosai made this vote so I will let him explain it further and or answer any recent chuji vs pere stuff next time he logs on I meanwhile have something else to say. actually the 48 hour time limit does NOT negate the plan.

Game Specific Rules

1: You will select a unique missions from the day in the order provided at the beginning of each day. When a player chooses a mission it will be crossed off of the list and rendered unavailable to everyone else in the game for that day.
2: You have

48 hours

to choose your mission. If you take more than 48 hours the next player(s) in line may leapfrog your choice.

the 48 does not force you to loose your choice it just means next person can jump you. you can still pick later. so the possible plan would be:

Step 1
Someone gets crap mission like miller and says it was crap next day.

Step 2
That mission shows up again

Step 3

no one picks a mission

as we vote to see who is scumiest. Time will pass by but no one should truly loose a choice. order may just get thrown off a bit should we all pick out of order during step 4

Step 4
Before hammer said scummiest person is talked into selecting crap role and everyone else selects whatever other role they want

Step 5
we lynch scummy players and remove crappy role from game

Step 6
If crappy role when revealed is not crappy like learned in step one, we lynch liar about role next day.

Descent plan yes?

And this is pokerface. You guys wnat us to say which of us is using the hydra account when?

This of course dependent on

Well, this thread has exploded since its start.

Mod: If town lightning lynches before everyone has picked, do the remaining people still get to pick or are they just SOL?

I really see Peregrine's stuff as impatience as well, and extensive talk about game mechanics is always dull to me. The mod designed the game to eliminate exploitation, so why would we find a loophole?

us not being sol because then we would have to pick who is scumiest pre L-1 or else scumiest player could in theory self hammer and shit can us out of all roles

and also jedo yay I admit farside likly made it impossible for any game breaking strategy to exist in this game. this strategy is not game breaking its just something helpful.

though the idea of getting no one to make picks and getting scummiest to make a certain pick can be difficult to enforce. we would need a firm honor system

[Chuji Kunisada]

hello PF here again

What we could do is have the second leading wagon (aka scummy enough to be a viable lynch the next day) to pick the 'crap role' the next day if they are alive. That doesn't mean we have to lynch them that day, but they are more likely to be lynched than other players.

But this is all a waste of time right now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PeregrineV

We should be scumhunting right now and not just waiting until everyone picks a role. 48hrs x 11 players (12th doesn't get to pick) means this stage can last to a maximum of 3 weeks. This won't happen, but waiting until everyone picks is a bad idea, and a way for scum to actively lurk (moreso following days).

battosai made this vote so I will let him explain it further and or answer any recent chuji vs pere stuff next time he logs on I meanwhile have something else to say. actually the 48 hour time limit does NOT negate the plan.

Game Specific Rules

1: You will select a unique missions from the day in the order provided at the beginning of each day. When a player chooses a mission it will be crossed off of the list and rendered unavailable to everyone else in the game for that day.
2: You have

48 hours

to choose your mission. If you take more than 48 hours the next player(s) in line may leapfrog your choice.

the 48 does not force you to loose your choice it just means next person can jump you. you can still pick later. so the possible plan would be:

Step 1
Someone gets crap mission like miller and says it was crap next day.

Step 2
That mission shows up again

Step 3

no one picks a mission

as we vote to see who is scumiest. Time will pass by but no one should truly loose a choice. order may just get thrown off a bit should we all pick out of order during step 4

Step 4
Before hammer said scummiest person is talked into selecting crap role and everyone else selects whatever other role they want

Step 5
we lynch scummy players and remove crappy role from game

Step 6
If crappy role when revealed is not crappy like learned in step one, we lynch liar about role next day.

Descent plan yes?

And this is pokerface. You guys wnat us to say which of us is using the hydra account when?

This of course dependent on

Well, this thread has exploded since its start.

Mod: If town lightning lynches before everyone has picked, do the remaining people still get to pick or are they just SOL?

I really see Peregrine's stuff as impatience as well, and extensive talk about game mechanics is always dull to me. The mod designed the game to eliminate exploitation, so why would we find a loophole?

us not being sol because then we would have to pick who is scumiest pre L-1 or else scumiest player could in theory self hammer and shit can us out of all roles

and also jedo yay I admit farside likly made it impossible for any game breaking strategy to exist in this game. this strategy is not game breaking its just something helpful.

though the idea of getting no one to make picks and getting scummiest to make a certain pick can be difficult to enforce. we would need a firm honor system

I really need to remember to log in as hydra more

[farside22]

Mission Cards:

Fedora
Payoff
Lemming Pledge
Concrete Mixer
Cliff Diving
Jack hammer
Limo
Pier
Cement
Shooter

Order of picking:

mikemike778
forest_air
Tazaro
sAbLLimINal
animorpherv1
CryMeARiver
Jedo the Jedi
Twistedspoon
PeregrineV
me=weird
TOGTFO (picked Creatures)
Chuji Kunisada (picked Bookie)

Mikemike

is next to pick. They have 48 hours to make their choice.

Vote Count:

forest_air (2) CryMeARiver, Twistedspoon
Chuji Kunisada (1) Tazaro
CryMeARiver (1) sAbLLimINal
Tazaro (2) me=weird, forest_air
SabLLimINal (1) TOGTFO
mikemike (1) PeregrineV
Peregrine (2) Chuji Kunisada, animorpherv1

Note voting:

Jedo the Jedi
mikemike778


With 12 players it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is June 14th, 1:15pm PST

@Farside, let's say we have a mission called Batman as a day 2 choice and said mission appears again on day 4. The power batman gives on night 4, will it be the same power it is on night 2? Bassically I assume mission names are always for the same mission, yes?

Yes the word I use has the same PR every day the word is used as a choice. Just remember I do remove one to 4 words and replace them with new ones. The old words may or may not come back in the game.

Mod: If town lightning lynches before everyone has picked, do the remaining people still get to pick or are they just SOL?

If a lynch occurs before all missions are picked I will randomly send each person a mission and put in thread the word the player was sent.

@Poker:

Please try not to post under your normal account. It is confusing for other players and me.

[Chuji Kunisada]

@Poker: Please try not to post under your normal account. It is confusing for other players and me.

Yes I realize how that can be confusing I will try harder

[Tazaro]

What does this strategy give me the feeling that it would seem to make things less fun

[animorpherv1]

To me, it reads as a bad thing, so I'm just going to keep my vote here.

Gut?

Yup.

[Tazaro]

To me, it reads as a bad thing, so I'm just going to keep my vote here.

Gut?

Yup.

Which is inherently unexplainable. I do not digest this well.

[Tazaro]

Does animorpherv1 regularly make gut votes?

[Tazaro]

I mean, I played with animorpherv1 before, but I don't remember a thing he did.

[mikemike778]

Pick Limo

[Tazaro]

UNVOTE

My prior disagreement is not valid because I somehow overlooked that the behavior was pledged to extend to a period that will be past the R.V.S, but I myself do not think that Peregrine is scummy for not voting for a scum suspect unless a conspicuous good case comes about.

[Tazaro]

mike picked! forest next!

[Jedo the Jedi]

Yeah, ani is strange, but this feels normal from what I remember. I'm not sure I'll be following right now.

The answer to my question has piqued my curiosity about just how the mod has balanced this game. With such random elements, how can he control the balance? Anyway, I recognize this is not an attempt to break the game or some such, Chuji, but rather a strategy to guide our play. I just am not overly concerned with it right now. I've been in too many games where the town gets bogged down with that sort of thing, and either the day drags or they get in a rut which benefits the scum. I guess you could say my philosophy is to shoot first and ask questions later. I'd rather get through the first day and have a lynch (not too quickly, though, since we will need discussion for analysis) so we can have some concrete information. In this case, such information will be two-fold since we will know some of the missions.

That said,

vote forest

[mikemike778]

What we could do is have the second leading wagon (aka scummy enough to be a viable lynch the next day) to pick the 'crap role' the next day if they are alive. That doesn't mean we have to lynch them that day, but they are more likely to be lynched than other players.

Yep, sounds like the best way of making this work, have to see how it all works out in practice - if there is any really crappy missons probably worth declaring them and then we can figure out what if anything to do with them.

VOTE: PeregrineV

No objections to people voting to push the picking process forward now but to say you are going to do it indefinitely is getting your excuses in for not making a proper vote later on.

[TOGTFO]

Lol at Tazaro's jumpy play. I am still trying to decide if I find your double posting mixed with constant mind changing scummy. It kind of looks like you just don't think/edit before you post.

I am fine with the CK's plan so long as everyone agrees not to pick a mission. BTW- just so no one is worried about not getting missions yet, I still have yet to receive mine. I dont think we get shown our missions until everyone has picked.

[Tazaro]

It's my playing style, TOGTFO.

[Tazaro]

I don't like mike's vote because I don't see anyone else (besides animephorv who's an outlier for every purpose) sheeping Chuji's point against Peregrine. Seriously, mike, it does not look like a serious thing to me, and as for your "to say you are going to do it indefinitely

is getting your excuses in

for not making a proper vote later on," the bold sounds so unnatural that I think you had to think that line up without it coming for your natural feelings.

VOTE: mikemike778