Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[ToastyToast]

Cobble still doesn't look recruited. No cult is going to come out and say 'tehehe, I was lying to you guys on day one, let me spell my contradiction out for you to lynch me over'. It's town.

I'm pretty much in agreement here. Cult is much more likely to just let it slide by. Mistakes happen. This situation actually reminds me of Buffy Mafia a bit, where I was basically a miller, but my role did not specifically say so. In other words, its easy to make assumptions. He wouldn't have been recruited during N1 because he claimed un-recruitable.

[springlullaby]

Would like to hear more about from ML/Herodotus.

@Herodotus

, is there a reason you think Yos was not a recruit last night? Because I think he doesn't look good.

@ABR

Why wouldn't you try to recruit DGB? She is feeding you and all!

I think the Cobblerwagon is derp too.

VOTE THADMIRAL

Yesterday reasons, plus nothing of consistence today.

[Herodotus]

@Spring: Recruit

ed

last night. Reason: he had the second biggest wagon. Over one third of the town might have considered targeting him with a night action.

What are you looking for when you say you want more?

[populartajo]

why yosa doenst make sense as a night 0 recruitment?

i already said i agree with cobbler being a derp case .

i dont get how dgb is still alive.

[populartajo]

Also, DGb is correct that Ludi's reasoning is bad.

how the hell is bad when this antitown play doesnt make sense coming frm town while it does make sense from a scum agenda?

[Herodotus]

I'll answer your question, but not before you answer the one I already asked you.

[populartajo]

wat was your question?

[Herodotus]

The following six people should each state which of them are most likely to have been recruited:
Bvoight, Fritzler, Flameaxe, Ooba, Porochaz, Populartajo

[populartajo]

and the point of that question is....

[Yosarian2]

i already said i agree with cobbler being a derp case

Yesterday, the case on Cobbler was "He claimed unrecrutable in a situation where no town unrecrutable would have done so. It's likely he's lying scum."

Today, he admitted he was lying. He tried to excuse this with this weird "I don't know if I'm unrecrutable or not" stuff, but that's just silly; there's no way he looks at a role PM and just says "Welp, I guess I'm unrecruitable, even though it dosn't say anything like that anywhere in my role PM, and I guess that all other teamseters are probably unrecrutable to. Also, teamseters are public roles, and I'm going to randomally announce my theory that all teamsters are unrecrutable in front of the whole town right now just to make sure the cult know who the unrecrutables are."

I don't really get why, or even how, anyone is believing his story at this point.

[populartajo]

why would someone that was heavily suspected day 1 would accept the fakeclaim?

[Cobblerfone]

"Welp, I guess I'm unrecruitable, even though it dosn't say anything like that anywhere in my role PM, and I guess that all other teamseters are probably unrecrutable to. Also, teamseters are public roles, and I'm going to randomally announce my theory that all teamsters are unrecrutable in front of the whole town right now just to make sure the cult know who the unrecrutables are."

That's not how it went. I didn't claim unrecruitable until after I was certain that none of us Teamsters had the same role.

[DrippingGoofball]

If Cobblerfone had been recruited, he'd be

coached

into

not

doing what he's doing.

Case closed.

[Yosarian2]

If Cobblerfone had been recruited, he'd be

coached

into

not

doing what he's doing.

Case closed.

...

So, your theory is that Cobbler's scum buddies would have said last night "Hey, buddy, whatever you do, don't admit you were lying and then let your entire fakeclaim and all your credibility fall apart"?

What Cobbler seems to be trying to do is actually a pretty reasonable scum technique; he's trying to gradually pull away from his fakeclaim now, to make the whole thing seem like some kind of misunderstanding, and to do so before he can be caught out on it. He's just not doing it very well. In any case, I think the only goal of his fakeclaim was to not be lynched on day 1, and it did accomplish that.

[DrippingGoofball]

So, your theory is that Cobbler's scum buddies would have said last night "Hey, buddy, whatever you do, don't admit you were lying and then let your entire fakeclaim and all your credibility fall apart"?

That's not my

entire

theory. But yeah. I'd certainly coach him.

...and to do so before he can be caught out on it.

What you you mean by

caught out on it

? If he's caught being actually recruited, he's going to be lynched regardless of the unrecruitable claim so in the grand scheme of things, it is inconsequential.

[DrippingGoofball]

....I think the only goal of his fakeclaim was to not be lynched on day 1, and it did accomplish that.

That only makes sense if we're looking for

recruiters

. We're not.

[ooba]

Cobber is not a recruit.

Yos, you're really stretching here - why would he announce this at D2 start given that he never may be called out on it? If I had lied to survive D1, I would just keep quiet about it as cult ..

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This holds even more weight KNOWING there are at minimum 2 kills that can go flying on any given night.

Where did you get this info from??

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Seraphim is also highly likely scum at this point. I have information that pretty much confirms he is lying about what he did last night.

You either have it or you don't. This kind of weak counterclaim doesn't help anyone. (is also scummy)

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Well played DGB .. I don't think you'll ever get lynched now ..

[bvoigt]

....I think the only goal of his fakeclaim was to not be lynched on day 1, and it did accomplish that.

That only makes sense if we're looking for

recruiters

. We're not.

But with tree stump recruiters/white flag, it was just as important to survive Day 1.

[Yosarian2]

....I think the only goal of his fakeclaim was to not be lynched on day 1, and it did accomplish that.

That only makes sense if we're looking for

recruiters

. We're not.

No, we're looking for a day 1 recruit who had only one goal on day 1. Survive until the end of the day, at any cost. If he had failed to do that, then his entire faction would be gone, because of the white flag rules.

[Yosarian2]

Cobber is not a recruit.

Yos, you're really stretching here - why would he announce this at D2 start given that he never may be called out on it? If I had lied to survive D1, I would just keep quiet about it as cult ..

Please, then, explain to me how he could possibly be telling the truth here. Explain to me how his story makes sense. I just don't see it.

[populartajo]

i really dont think a faction could lose the game if we lynched right day 1,

thats a big assumption you are making there yosa.

[populartajo]

Cobber is not a recruit.

Yos, you're really stretching here - why would he announce this at D2 start given that he never may be called out on it? If I had lied to survive D1, I would just keep quiet about it as cult ..

Please, then, explain to me how he could possibly be telling the truth here. Explain to me how his story makes sense. I just don't see it.

pretty sure you have seen a lot of vis making stupid things that dont make sense, huh yosa?

[Porochaz]

Hi guys running a fever and graduating tomorrow means Im more than likely going to be V/LA until sunday.

[ToastyToast]

Did someone call Cobblerfone out on his bulletproof claim, BEFORE he volunteered said information? If so, then he's highly unlikely to be the recruit. Butchering a claim is not a scumtell.

[Nobody Special]

I am catching up [note to self page 59].

These questions will likely be answered as I read through, but for myself, at least:

DGB, why did you unvote yourself, and vote Ludi?

Kinetic, why are you talking? No one's listening.

Albert, why can DGB post and you can't?

More thoughts as I read.