NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[Empking]

Not enthralled with the mason claim, but ultimately read it coming from Ethos as town. This also implies a town connection on Para, not because of masonage, but because Ethos reasoning on Para's frustration making him look town is a bit more valid in this sense. Also Yos makes the slot look better. This does nothing for Spyrex and Ythan town reads though, more or less making my gut of town on town tearing itself apart look better in my eyes.

Vote: Empking.

Why?

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm going to refer to the mason group as The Derp Patrol for the rest of the game. Killer.

unvote Ethos

I will believe the mason claim for now. Need to reread.

[Yosarian2]

That was all so unnecessary. Even if we did decide we wanted a partner to claim, just one partner would have been fine.

Anyway, for formailities sake, we do need the two masons partners to confirm that they are masons.

By the way, Ethos actually being a mason gives Ythan huge scum points for the earlier mason fishing.

[xRECKONERx]

Also Mod: Prods?

dramonic is V/LA until June 22nd.
Prodding kanyeknowsbest and Swag136. If Swag doesn't respond within 24 hours, he will be force-replaced.

[T-Bone]

It's true. I wish he hadn't done that, but what's done is done.

Let's lynch Ythan now please. I've never seen someone such obvscum as I've seen him these last few pages.

[Empking]

By the way, Ethos actually being a mason gives Ythan huge scum points for the earlier mason fishing.

Why? Why does Ethos being a mason make a difference?

[Yosarian2]

By the way, Ethos actually being a mason gives Ythan huge scum points for the earlier mason fishing.

Why? Why does Ethos being a mason make a difference?

Because that means that there is a high chance Ethos dropped some kind of actual mason tell early, and that Ythan saw it and responded by increasing pressure on him and trying to get him to claim. If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else. Whole thing really makes me wonder if Ythan is scum who wanted to out the masons early.

[saporovirus]

Because that means that there is a high chance Ethos dropped some kind of actual mason tell early, and that Ythan saw it and responded by increasing pressure on him and trying to get him to claim. If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else. Whole thing really makes me wonder if Ythan is scum who wanted to out the masons early.

Ahem...#208-212.

[dramonic]

...
Ethos I hate you with a passion.
I'm not up to date, but I thought you'd like to know.

[saporovirus]

Because that means that there is a high chance Ethos dropped some kind of actual mason tell early, and that Ythan saw it and responded by increasing pressure on him and trying to get him to claim. If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else. Whole thing really makes me wonder if Ythan is scum who wanted to out the masons early.

Ahem...#208-212.

Though that was in response to Ethos's defense of Parabollocks, who is not in the claimed mason group with them.

[Yosarian2]

Because that means that there is a high chance Ethos dropped some kind of actual mason tell early, and that Ythan saw it and responded by increasing pressure on him and trying to get him to claim. If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else. Whole thing really makes me wonder if Ythan is scum who wanted to out the masons early.

Ahem...#208-212.

Yes, that was where the blatant and frankly inexcusable masonfishing started.

[T-Bone]

Might as well quote what you saw Yos.

[Yosarian2]

This was where the masonfishing started.

Wait. Oversoul/Ethos. In a theoretical situation in which one of you would die but it would clear the other one, which would go first?

Really a nonsense question, no matter how you look at it, but one designed to see if Ethos was a mason with Oversoul.

And then, when Ethos refused to rise to the bait and basically just laughed at him, Ythan declared:

It's a scum qt, he claimed not-mason.

He really wanted to get a mason claim out of Ethos one way or another, and I don't get why.

[T-Bone]

I totally agree. Ythan to be lynched please.

[Oversoul]

Is there a chance that I could have been right...

[kanyeknowsbest]

sorry yall, I was out of town a day longer than i thought i would be.

unvote

im gonna reread this afternoon and reevaluate my reads.

[Ythan]

By the way, Ethos actually being a mason gives Ythan huge scum points for the earlier mason fishing.

Because you keep ignoring why I did it because you have to at this point.

Let's lynch Ythan now please. I've never seen someone such obvscum as I've seen him these last few pages.

Omgus doesn't suit you. You're not going on anything more than being pissed because I talk shit.

If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else.

Then it's scummy if I saw a mason tell. Other than blindly defending a scummy player. Which is a team tell. Which is usually a scum tell.

[Ythan]

We can still lynch Yos, right?

unvote vote Yos

[T-Bone]

I'm going on the way you played. You've not played a town game. Therefore you must not be town. It's not a hard leap in logic.

[Ythan]

Your iso.

ctrl+f Ythan

Lol you're rage-tunneling.

[Yosarian2]

We can still lynch Yos, right?

unvote vote Yos

Last I checked, the only excuse you gave for voting me was some bullshit logic about me being scum with Ethos, and that you didn't like that I was defending him.

Actually, I've asked you 4 or 5 times now to explain either your attack on Ethos or your attack on me, and so far you've refused. Your Ethos attack was always shitty, and you kept putting off explaining why you were voting for him in the first place, basically pretending you'd already explained it (hint: you haven't.) You never explained your mason fishing, you never explained why you blew the Ethos wagon so far out of proportion when it was always just based on a disagreement on the reading of one town tell he got from one post. You never explained your read on me, either.

You know what, screw this. You're not a VI, you have no excuse for your actions.

unvote:empking

vote:Ythan

, at least until you start making some bloody sense.

So, now that I'm voting you, are you going to stop blowing me off and start answering some questions, or do we have to put you at lynch -1 before you'll start doing that?

[SpyreX]

Ythan's still town, tia.

T-Bone being a mason makes me believe the group.

I will never ever in a million billion years understand the adamant defense of Para especially as a mason my god.

Serious business reads still stand.

Unvote, Vote: Chair

[Ythan]

So, now that I'm voting you, are you going to stop blowing me off and start answering some questions, or do we have to put you at lynch -1 before you'll start doing that?

I'm blowing you off because you're bullshitting and have been since your first post. But I understand and am not forming a judgment of you as a player based on this game because you replaced into a terrible slot. <3

[Yosarian2]

By the way, Ethos actually being a mason gives Ythan huge scum points for the earlier mason fishing.

Because you keep ignoring why I did it because you have to at this point.

The only excuse you gave was the horrible "Either Ethos is scum, or he's masons with Para" false dilemma. Which is just wrong, in so many ways. Not only is it wrong, but even if that was true, you went about it totally ass-backwards. If you had actually thought that, say, there was a 65% Ethos was scum and a 35% chance Ethos was a mason (just to pull numbers out of thin air), then the right thing to do would be to bandwagon Ethos to a claim, and then see if he claims mason or not. Not demand that he claim mason when he was nowhere near a lynch. That's just anti-town all around.

If Ythan was town and saw a mason tell, the pro-town thing to do would be to drop the whole subject and look at someone else.

Then it's scummy if I saw a mason tell. Other than blindly defending a scummy player. Which is a team tell. Which is usually a scum tell.

Getting a town read on another player for a logical reason is not a scum tell. Not at all. Not even a little bit. That's the main way that a lot of people scumhunt is by looking for town tells.

Is this your excuse for all your bad behavior so far this game, that you really think defending someone is a scum tell?

[Untrod Tripod]

As much as I respect SpyreX's ability to read alignment, I don't think Chair is a sexy enough lynch right now to justify wasting this entire day of juicy juicy drama on him. We should probably go for someone who's scummy AND has gotten a lot of attention. You know, kind of like Parabollocks. I put off going for that particular lynch because Ethos was acting scumtastic, but I think it's time to start pushing it again. If we can get Derp Squad Omicron behind the lynch we could get some great info from it.

vote Yosarian2

Also let me just post a really wild theory I have on the offchance I don't get a chance to say it after tonight:
Ethos is the traitor and he claimed some of the mafia team as his mason partners. It would be a horribly bad idea and there's only like a .001% chance it happened, but................ something about the play of those three makes me wonder....