Open 316 - Hard Boiled (Day Two)

Amrun · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:15 am

That's a fair point about zmuffin. Zmuffin, is glowball scummy to you or not?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:17 am

Amrun · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:18 am

Why not?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:26 am

Just 'coz.

Mostly too scummy to be scum. I don't see scum trying that hard to derail this claim plan; much more likely scum is in the people agreeing with everything without questioning anything. There's probably also scum hiding in the 'helpful' players, and you are the first that comes to mind in that regard. But I'm not scum hunting like I should be due to the circumstances in this game, and the only real reads I have right now are gut reads with little or no substance to back it up.

Amrun · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:27 am

Okay, then why point out glowball's scummy alignment business?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:28 am

I asked her why she was doing it and I asked her to stop doing it if she's town.

Do you think there's something wrong with that?

Amrun · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:32 am

I suppose not, but it sounds like coaching.

neil1113 · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:36 am

Muffin, I'm with you there. I have very little reads, because I feel like this game is going away from normal Mafia to formulate it's new plan. I would rather this game just get on, either with the plan or without it. But I'm tired of spending the past 7 or 8 (maybe more?) pages between three people discussing the plan...

zMuffinMan · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:39 am

@Amrun,

Yes... Because I am coaching her. She should stop doing it if she's town.

@neil,

Yeah, which is why I didn't want to go ahead with this until later in the day, but apparently people want to get this over and done with now. So I don't really mind, as long as there's at least day or two before it happens so I can make sure I'm not missing anything. I still have some things that I will discuss only after the mass-claim is over, and people will probably not like it at all.

Amrun · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:41 am

Neil, we are waiting on jakesh. We might as well discuss while we wait for him to post or get replaced.

neil1113 · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:56 am

Amrun wrote:Neil, we are waiting on jakesh. We might as well discuss while we wait for him to post or get replaced.

Discuss... what, exactly?

Hoopla · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:56 am

neil1113 wrote:
Amrun wrote:Neil, we are waiting on jakesh. We might as well discuss while we wait for him to post or get replaced.

Discuss... what, exactly?

Our favourite Disney films.

Hoopla · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:57 am

Alice in Wonderland.

Popcorn to Amrun.

Amrun · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:10 am

The Lion King.

Popcorn to zmuffin.

Oversoul · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:55 pm

I'm not zMuffin, but I would have to say that Up is my favorite Disney movie. :3

jakesh97 · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:10 pm

im gonna finish my episode of anime, grab water bottle and catch up. Sorry guys.

glowball · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:34 pm

Oversoul wrote:I'm not zMuffin, but I would have to say that Up is my favorite Disney movie. :3

you don't follow rules very well...WAIT YOUR TURN! or else everyone would just start shouting out disney movies, then movies that aren't even disney and it'd be total ANARCHY...

swankidelic · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:36 pm

FoS: Oversoul - technically not a Disney movie.

Mary Poppins. If the Sherman Brothers' song Feed the Birds doesn't make you cry, you are obv a terminator sent back through time to kill Sarah Connor.

Re: glowball: her resistance to Hoopla's Scummy Pool Plan looks like a personality flaw. She's so irrationally stubborn it looks like there's a motive bigger than this game. What makes her look scummy, though, is that she keeps insisting that town is a "team" and that we're not playing as a team because we want to proceed with a plan. That's so ridiculously backwards. The only "team" is the scum team, and to a townie, everyone else is a potential enemy. Coordinating on a plan is vastly more team-oriented than normal townie play.

tl;dr If glowball wants to play on a team, she should cooperate with the plan. Otherwise, all this "team" talk is a bid for sympathy.

glowball · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:39 pm

see now swank is contributing to the anarchy...

I see every game as a team- I mean seriously yeah we don't know who is scum, but we know EVERYONE isn't scum. I'm not going to be a paranoid freak about the game and I believe in general it is pro-town to work together that being said, I cannot get behind something I don't support. I wouldn't follow you guys off a cliff either- shot me....better yet lynch me if you don't like it.

The longer you guys keep bringing me up as a subject for anything other than scumhunting the longer I will be uncooperative. Seriously, if you have a question I will answer it- but it's to a point where you guys are just shooting me down because I don't want to fall in line with your plan and I am being difficult. You guys are attacking my personality not scum hunting and there is a difference.

Amrun · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:09 pm

I actually kind of agree with glowball here. She might be throwing me into that category of people attacking her personality, even though I have never done so, but calling her personality flawed is a little over the line, imho.

swankidelic · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:12 pm

p-edit: Yeah, I guess so. I genuinely apologize if that was over the line, glowball. Point is, her resistance to Hoopla's plan is a null tell to me, but she's done other things that implicate her.

LittleGrey Post #3 Real #55 wrote:Yeah, I made my random vote before I started posting the other stuff. I
knew
someone would make a fuss out of that, which is why I said RVS vote. It was simply random.

I'm still suspicious of Muffin but I don't want to go around making serious votes for people until I have enough evidence. The game just started, and apparently we already need a replacement. So until everyone posts enough for valid reads, I don't see the point on making serious votes.

I was looking at jakesh v. LittleGrey when this post jumped out at me again. LG is comfortable tossing random votes around, but doesn't want to commit to a "real" vote; looks like LG is overly concerned with keeping her vote record clean.

It also bugs me, in general, when people call their vote an RVS vote before a lynch. It's like, they want to show participation, but are trying to cover their tails if they get called out for it.

glowball · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:18 pm

What have I done to implicate myself? Please enlighten me on things that are fact based rather than opinions on how you feel I should be playing.

Amrun · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:20 pm

It's been explained several times, glowball.

glowball · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:22 pm

No, it hasn't. Factually? I mean you guys have called me out for not agreeing with your plan and then the team thing...all of which I find to be opinion based. I would like to know what I have done that is solely scum motivated.

Amrun · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:25 pm

The alignment shenanigans - three players minimum have called it scummy.

This is a game about opinions, btw.