My Little Pony Mafia - GENOCIDAL FRIENDSHIP PONIES

[Gammagooey]

But you don't have to choose.
The power of FRIENDSHIP allows aaaaaaall thiiiiiiings.

[Jahudo]

Hey gamma, what was the town tell in Espy's first post? I'm guess saying early wagons are good is a sign of not worrying about appearances.

I also second the questions asked of Espy in regards to his latest post. IE, what is the main reason for voting a null read (like does this mean there are no alignment tells or that the good and bad cancel each other out); and does Espy think the case on WLC makes a good point that he would agree with if he didn't see the wagon as "easy".

[Gammagooey]

Jahudo it's everything except the wagon part.

In addition: I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY. I AM EXACTLY THE PONY I WANTED TO BE HELLS FRIKKIN YEAH.

Now continue. Also I think I know who equinox is.

How many people have you seen say I GOT JUST THE ROLE I WANTED as mafia? Granted, he did just say pony and mafia almost definitely have fakeclaims, but upon getting a scum role PM he'd have to actually think about whether or not soft-claiming a well known pony was a good idea given that it would tie down his later claim a little, and it's more likely to come from town than scum because of that. Trying to figure out stuff is also generally a towntell but Equi admittedly made it obvious.
Yeah it isn't super fantastic reasons but he's more likely town than not so dealwithit.

[Jahudo]

The only way it ties his role down is we know he's not "Nameless Vanilla Town Pony". I wouldn't find it odd for someone to hope they are someone outside the main six (well five now).

[TheLonging]

Of course Pinkie Pie is the best pony

[Espeonage]

Would comment with my favorite pony buuuuuuuuuuuuuut.

[Equinox]

If I had to chose between TheLonging, Weyouns and Espeonage right now my choice would be Espeonage.

How 'bout... no? Why're you limitin' yourself to just those three folks?

[Jahudo]

I wouldn't find it odd for someone to hope they are someone outside the main six (well five now).

Plus the town role role PMs have a giant picture of the character in them. I bet scum's fakeclaim has one too. So even though scum may be thinking less about the character they are pretending to represent as the game goes along, it would have been pretty hard to ignore that picture when you just got it. And either Espy or Equinox could have thought "cool pony, I'm going to show my excitement over that picture". So what I'm saying is I think its null.

[hohum]

If I had to chose between TheLonging, Weyouns and Espeonage right now my choice would be Espeonage.

How 'bout... no? Why're you limitin' yourself to just those three folks?

Because these are the three I've seen votes on.

I've seen some votes on Maziek as well but we're not lynching him.

I've got town reads on you and chesskid, null reads on everyone else I haven't mentioned so far and leaning-scum read on Jahudo.

inHim it a little too funny to lynch right now.

[Gammagooey]

I'm voting Jahudros again now. You can toooooooo

[chesskid3]

LA next two days or so sorry

[Twilight Sparkle]

Vote Count #5

WeyounsLastClone:

inHimshallibe, chesskid3, TheLonging,

Equinox

(L-4)

chesskid3:

Fluttershy, Maziek, WeyounsLastClone (L-4)

inHimshallibe:

Mina

TheLonging:

hohum

, Espeonage

Gammagooey:

Equinox

Espeonage:

hohum

Jahudo:

Espeonage

, Gammagooey

Not Voting:

Jahudo, MehPlusRawr

Day One Deadline

(expired on 2011-06-30 03:00:00)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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MehPlusRawr has about 12 hours to pick up his prod.

Chesskid is V/LA until June 21st.

[Gammagooey]

@TS- I'm currently voting Jahudo

Thanks for the heads-up. Vote counts 4 and 5 have been edited.

[Gammagooey]

LURKERS NOOOO LURKING
TALKIN' TO YOU FLUTTERSHY.
(because Meh+Katsuki will be force-replaced in 4 hours)

[Gammagooey]

oh right robotics competition Limited Access that I completely forgot about right right.

It's still lonely in here though. Anyone wanna say stuff? It would be pretty cool. Gut reads are fine, explained reads are fine, weird theories are even better than fine, pretty much everything else is fine.

[Jahudo]

Weekends are always slow, but I hope no pony is acting like this is a three week day or else deadline will creep up pretty quickly.

@inhim: what do you think about WLC's defense? You don't mention it in your most recent post. I didn't get the impression you were more concerned with how it looked as though he suspected one person and voted another. You seemed to be more interested in how he voted TheLonging without talking about the other people who had voted him, and now that he says his main point was to suspect the "no lynch" voter, he would have had to bring up the Longing wagon. So did you just slip over to chesskid's case? How come you didn't see that point in the first place?

[Equinox]

Gammagooey, let's have a li'l discussion. Have ya ever been quite this rambly before?

hohum, at the time you voted Espeonage, he had no votes on him. You had a slight scum read on Jahudo, who had -- in that same vote count -- two votes, yet you chose to limit yerself to the three

old

wagons. What's this all 'bout, then?

[inHimshallibe]

Something feels wrong about the WLC wagon. Last game I was in with him scum tried to push his wagon every day when he wasn't really overly scummy and every day they failed. And he was town. This feels very similar.

Are you already assumin' WeyounsLastClone is town there, bud? 'cause this sounds awfully like it...

Love this point. A++

I'm gonna go with somethin' here.

Unvote, Vote: Gammagooey

Now I'mma let that stew for a bit, mainly 'cause I'm runnin' late and need to go and I'm probably too lazy to think up a reason for why I'm movin' here. Let's just go with gut, it's an easy thin' to say when one doesn't have an actual reason for a vote.

Interesting. Not really feeling this at the moment. His start-of-game didn't feel anything but null, but defending Espeonage in the way he has seems town.

If I had to chose between TheLonging, Weyouns and Espeonage right now my choice would be Espeonage.

Unvote, Vote, Espeonage

Others around over the weekend alluded to such, but this doesn't give me that many happy feelings.

Weekends are always slow, but I hope no pony is acting like this is a three week day or else deadline will creep up pretty quickly.

@inhim: what do you think about WLC's defense? You don't mention it in your most recent post. I didn't get the impression you were more concerned with how it looked as though he suspected one person and voted another. You seemed to be more interested in how he voted TheLonging without talking about the other people who had voted him, and now that he says his main point was to suspect the "no lynch" voter, he would have had to bring up the Longing wagon. So did you just slip over to chesskid's case? How come you didn't see that point in the first place?

I didn't slip onto chesskid's reasoning at all, was just encouraging more votes.

My beef with WLC comes from using the No Lynch vote as reasoning after there was a lot more content to be explored when considering who to vote at that juncture.

[inHimshallibe]

Equinox sliding up the scales.

I would really like to see

more

anything from our no-shows.

[hohum]

LA next two days or so sorry

So you say but you have time to fuck around in facebook group chat.

Ah my little phony, trying to rile up the stables.

[hohum]

Gammagooey, let's have a li'l discussion. Have ya ever been quite this rambly before?

hohum, at the time you voted Espeonage, he had no votes on him. You had a slight scum read on Jahudo, who had -- in that same vote count -- two votes, yet you chose to limit yerself to the three

old

wagons. What's this all 'bout, then?

You guys can wagon Jahudo all you want. I've been trying to get Espeonage to pay attention to this thread since before Jahudo had votes on him. My vote is an extension of my original intent, not a jahudo counter-wagon.

[Jahudo]

I don't see how Gamma is rambling. That word makes me think long posts that are filled with non-content fluff. I feel like gamma makes short posts and is clear about his intention.

If its about how he characterizes his feelings (ie: "that is an odd post", "that gives me twitches") that's another thing, being vague, but I can still see his purpose because of his vote even if the reasoning takes some prodding to find out. There is nothing wrong with taht as long as it doesn't look as though he is keeping things close to the vest until someone else can help him make a case. As long as he can backup why he has unexplained gut vibes, he can go with a technique he must think is efficient.

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I didn't slip onto chesskid's reasoning at all, was just encouraging more votes.

My beef with WLC comes from using the No Lynch vote as reasoning after there was a lot more content to be explored when considering who to vote at that juncture.

If you felt that way about his attitude towards a no lynch vote all along, then why didn't you say so before now? I don't get why someone would lay out half their case and keep the other half to yourself after someone else brought it up.

So you are on a wagon for one reason, and someone else is on the wagon for another reason. You agree with them but don't want to say you agree. I can't see a reason for town to hide a stance once its out in the open like that. I can only think of scum who aren't sure whether that point is something to rally around or not, because it may falter.

In the meantime, your original reasoning doesn't seem as applicable, if at all, unless you want to argue that he did intent to vote TheLonging and for whatever reason filled the rest of his post with CHESSKID and not TheLonging. But you don't comment on the defense. I don't like how you continue to act like WLC's post was scummy without saying how his defense hasn't changed your opinion. If you can defend your point, why not do it? Town should be eager to back themselves up. I can only think of scum who realize things have changed and they are not ready or sure how to progress.

So what is the town rationale for not saying the wagon is now about the no lynch vote too, and what is the town rationale for not acknowledging how your original stance may need some clarification to be justified.

Vote: inhimshallibe

[Equinox]

I don't see how Gamma is rambling. That word makes me think long posts that are filled with non-content fluff. I feel like gamma makes short posts and is clear about his intention.

You're misunderstandin' my meanin', I think.

It's not that he's literally ramblin', but his posts are a bit more stream-of-consciousness than I'm used to seein' from him, so I'd like to know if my feelin' there is warranted or if I'm just insane or somethin'.

[inHimshallibe]

I don't think you interpreted my original reasoning correctly.

For 1)

not commenting on discussion between those of us who had voted and subsequently unvoted TheLonging

, 2)being vague about chesskid, and 3)killing innocent ponies.

The bold indicates I was upset he was using that outdated reason.

[inHimshallibe]

So you are on a wagon for one reason, and someone else is on the wagon for another reason. You agree with them but don't want to say you agree. I can't see a reason for town to hide a stance once its out in the open like that. I can only think of scum who aren't sure whether that point is something to rally around or not, because it may falter.

If I think someone is scum, I'm going to encourage voting him, for whatever reason someone wants to give. After we lynch the scum we can sort the reasons out.

In the meantime, your original reasoning doesn't seem as applicable, if at all, unless you want to argue that he did intent to vote TheLonging and for whatever reason filled the rest of his post with CHESSKID and not TheLonging. But you don't comment on the defense. I don't like how you continue to act like WLC's post was scummy without saying how his defense hasn't changed your opinion. If you can defend your point, why not do it? Town should be eager to back themselves up. I can only think of scum who realize things have changed and they are not ready or sure how to progress.

WLC's defense still doesn't comment on the rest of the game, which has always been my main point in regards to why people should be voting him.